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So Nick how do you feel about the Oscar nomination predictions that were thrown around last week? A valid perspective?
Absolutely wonderful review, Nick. Thank you.

Thanks also go to Matt M for those Glenn Kenny excerpts. An interesting comparison and one I wouldn't have drawn with Cameron's work, but an apt one nontheless.
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This seems to be the most political film of the year, according to Jeffrey Wells....

"The political import of Avatar -- and there's no waving this aspect away because it's right in your face start to finish, and especially in the third act -- is ardently left. It is pro-indigenous native, anti-corporate, anti-imperialist, anti-U.S. Iraq War effort, anti-U.S.-in-Afghanistan (and anti-troop-surge-in-that-country, or strongly against the thinking of President Barack Obama and Gen. Stanley McChrystal), anti-rightie, anti-Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld, etc."

And yet, most of those elements were in the scriptment that pre-dated the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. No doubt, Cameron has amped up elements of the script to reflect his POV in the actual making and cutting of the film (which occurred after those wars began), but I can't help but seeing this as the reviewer reading personal inputs into a film they liked.

This film obviously has a green message, and is obviously anti-corporate (did Wells ever see Aliens?), and probably even "violence isn't always the answer (though sometimes it is awesome)", but I doubt it was cut in response to President Obama's speech this week. I think Wells might be reaching on that.
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So Nick how do you feel about the Oscar nomination predictions that were thrown around last week? A valid perspective?

No Oscars except for tech.
Beyond predictions, is there anything in the movie besides tech that you feel would deserve a nomination? The way you talked up Stephen Lang feels like the role has potential for attention. But then again, it was really more like how fun and awesome he was in the movie as opposed to how 'awards-worthy' he is (whatever that means to anyone).
These are all good questions, but I want to know the answer to the unasked question. And mabe Justin can answer this one better:

Watching the movie, did you ever find yourself picturing a different cast and wondering what might have Biehn?
nick, appreciate your review, which has now more than tickled my interest in catching this at imax. Up until this review i have kinda been in the same boat as devin and what he has expressed in his last article regarding this flick. Maybe the short previews just don't do justice for a film like this and one really has to experience this shit on an imax screen. I guess I'll see about that. I'm actually a bit pumped to catch this now.
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Something is about to happen that will ensure lots more of me around here.

This is even better new than the review!
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Something is about to happen that will ensure lots more of me around here.

Uh oh...

Nick, did you break the embargo with your review?
Seems like the embargo's been lifted. If not, then pretty much every publication and website around has broken it.
There's no review on slashfilm or AICN.
Whhops, sorry there is one on slashfilm. Ignore me! Didnt see it over there!
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Nick, did you break the embargo with your review?

No way. Seeing reviews all around town and the embargo murdered basically changed my Friday from "work on what I was supposed to work on" to "get that review done before folks piss off for lunch".
Remember the first time you saw Gollum in the Two Towers? Prepare to feel like that again. The Na'Vi are the next step in CG characters, the quality of animation and the detail boggle the mind.
sorry if this has already been spoken of in this thread, but has anyone watched this in both the IMAX 3D and just the digital version at your regular theater? Which one's better to see?
I watched the regular theatre digital 3D version. It looked good. Imax will probably look even better. However, Cameron uses 3D to enhance the cinematography and not as a gimmick. I think the movie will work in all formats.
Not that I've seen the movie yet in any format, but there will most likely be a trade-off when it comes to IMAX. The bigger the image size, the more 'upscaled' the image will look. It was actually kinda distracting when TDK went back and forth between IMAX shots and 35mm shots. Not enough to ruin the experience or anything. But I notice it.
thanks mastro. I never liked wearing those paper 3D glasses and any 3D movies that have come out in the past for that matter b/c they all give me massive headaches. The closest IMAX theater around my area is about 50 mi away, and I'm actually thinking about going there to see this. I really do hope the 3D isn't a gimmick and ruin the movie for me.
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Not that I've seen the movie yet in any format, but there will most likely be a trade-off when it comes to IMAX. The bigger the image size, the more 'upscaled' the image will look. It was actually kinda distracting when TDK went back and forth between IMAX shots and 35mm shots. Not enough to ruin the experience or anything. But I notice it.

You mean the resolution seemed to get worse with the up-scaled image?
Yes, exactly. I didn't realize I worded that poorly.

Watching 35mm footage blown up to IMAX size feels like watching an upscaled DVD on a big HDTV.
Thanks, Nooj. But would that not be the case for Avatar since it was shot digitally? Will it look just as sharp in IMAX as it will projected digitally on smaller screens?
Well, I'm talking about the real IMAX screens projected with IMAX film. The one I go to boasts a screen that's about 6 stories high. The digital IMAX screens will look fine, I'm sure. As would any other movie.
You need to write more reviews Nick, the internet needs more of this film-literate type business. Honestly, Devin is about the best around, but with you stepping up in a more serious mode like this, thoughtfully and passionately, the other sites only exist to show how second best looks. I mean, never give up the funny or the other thousand and a half projects you have going on, just do more of this. Because who needs sleep anyway?
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Seems like the embargo's been lifted. If not, then pretty much every publication and website around has broken it.

It has been lifted.
A fantastically fair and level-headed 'middling' review. Thanks for the balance.
You made some well thought out points and that was a very level headed review.


I just hope you are wrong.
It doesn't seem like there's a right or wrong here - both positive and negative reviews acknoqledge the somewhat uninspired narrative and creative choices while highlighting the amazing effects. It all boils down to which of those aspects takes precedent for each individual viewer.
It's late here so this will be quick. I thought it was ok. I enjoyed the action bits and the other bits were entertaining enough.

Strangely I kept thinking of Final Fantasy games. They often have these crazy worlds with stuff that looks cool and is completely illogical. They have the hippy gaia crap. They have people with tails. They have giant trees. They are entirely shallow and clumsy in their story telling. But I sorta enjoy Final Fantasy games and I sorta enjoyed this.

Maybe a 7.5/10

3D is still a gimmick IMO.
Well assembled review Devin, I think that if more reviewers had actually reviewed the film and not just it's technical 'WOW' factor there might be a few more of these 6 -7/10 level assessments floating about.

I am gonna give it a shot next week or just after chrimbo but I aint paying IMAX money for it. Any idea how you would have rated it had it been a standard 2D experience?
But for now, to be WOWed by the technical factor is an honest reaction to the film if the whole package works for someone. The WOW factor is the film for the moment. As Devin says, the movie is in no way bad. And when something like Avatar is still a novelty, the WOW on display will take it a long way on first viewing.

Not having seen the movie, I think Devin's predictions about what people will think of the movie in the future is pretty accurate. What he would've thought about the 2D experience would probably be exactly what he's already written with a slightly lower number score. But Devin's never taken number scores seriously to begin with, so I think his review is the best indication of the 2D experience you'd find at the moment.
Fair enough, I guess I was just WOWed by the fact that some of the UK's more harsh critics, who rarely give films a pass based on just technical merit (KING KONG included), were slobbering all over this... in some ways that has got me curious to see if it can WOW me too.
Only one way to find out! Pay the extra money for IMAX3D! Hahaha.
UNOBTANIUM!

... I guess George Lucas has the rights to "HARDTOGETIUM"