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I still like the Thriller idea.

Here's a slightly off the wall suggestion: a 5 day draft of controversial films. You make your pick, than try to defend its merits. Like say a person picks BIRTH OF A NATION, they can try to do a Armond White on it. The fun would be trying to sway the majority.

Think how CRUISING was seen as a homophobic freakshow upon release, but now has been reconsidered as a snapshot of uninhibited sexual freedom.

It could be a controversial film in the sense of critical or popular perception and reaction, or just a film put down by the CHUD/ TC community.

I guess we could make an option to flip positive opinion and have a player be able to pick a beloved film and make the case against it.

There would be a lot of heavy lifting in this, and would be potentially more contentious, but it would be an experience.
Maybe better to have the titles assigned instead of chosen. Like maybe you draft a title and the next person has to defend it?
Thrillers sounds like a lot of fun!

I really like Elvis' "controversial movies" idea, but I think we would need to talk out the parameters a bit more. Like, you'd want to require that an argument for or a defense of the movie be part of each day's drafting post. And I think you'd want to go 2, 2, 1 - two movies like GONE WITH THE WIND or CRUISING that are "problematic," two that are beloved but that you have a controversial opinion on, and then 1 that could fit into either category.

If you wanted to open it up a little, you could also have controversial opinions/fan theories about movies as part of the mix - like the various Fight Club theories: "Fight Club is a Calvin and Hobbs sequel," stuff like that.

It's way too late to run, but I was thinking because of midsummer and all, a "five roles, five days" draft for WICKER MAN could be fun:

Howie
Lord Summerisle
Willow MacGregor
Mr. MacGregor
Drafter's choice.
Yeah Thrillers would be fun.
I know Halloween is still a few months away, but what if we did some kind of Horror Draft in October? Like we could each draft five horror villains and five horror heroes or a Horror Tropes draft where we pick 10 different tropes (The Killer, the Final Girl, etc.) Or we could do something similar to the Heist draft and cast our own horror movies with characters/creatures from other genres. To borrow an example from Arjen, you could have your own slasher with Charlie Chaplin's Tramp as the killer.
I would be up for a Build Your Own Slasher draft, sure.
I like the idea of Build Your Own Slasher, but I would prefer if we went with archetypes and casting actors for an original story, but that's 'cause I'm a fucking nerd. I'm down for whatever.
We could all be various countries from the Cabin in the Woods universe, casting our Virgin, our Fool, our Jock, etc to appease our respective elder gods.
(06-24-2020, 01:05 PM)boone daniels Wrote: [ -> ]I like the idea of Build Your Own Slasher, but I would prefer if we went with archetypes and casting actors for an original story, but that's 'cause I'm a fucking nerd. I'm down for whatever.

I'd be okay with that too. Bonus points for coming up with a detailed backstory for your slasher villain.

(06-24-2020, 01:37 PM)Richard Dickson Wrote: [ -> ]We could all be various countries from the Cabin in the Woods universe, casting our Virgin, our Fool, our Jock, etc to appease our respective elder gods.

That would actually be really fun.
Cabin in the Woods idea is also fun; I'd throw in the wrinkle of coming up with 15 or so countries and then randomly assigning them before the start of the draft. Or depending on the number of drafters, 2-3 people have to Japan, 2-3 England, etc.
I was thinking of going with an old school American slasher myself so maybe we can make it optional for our lists to take place in another country. We can just pretend the Cabin in the Woods scientists have multiple operations going on the U.S., Japan, etc.

I already have the perfect idea for my killer.
Going with the Build Your Own Slasher idea using archetypes, here's what I've got so far:

1. The Killer
2. The Virgin/Final Girl
3. The Promiscuous Girl
4. The Jock
5. The Fool/Stoner
6. The Scholar/Nerd
7. The Authority Figure/Local Law Enforcement
8. The Harbinger/"Crazy Ralph"
9. The Opening Scene Victim/"Chrissie"

Other than Token Black character, I can't think of too many other archetypes. Maybe the Asshole who betrays the rest of the group to save himself/"Burke." Or the Surprise Second Killer, if you're going the Scream route.
If you want to go meta, 10 could be The One Who Realizes They're in a Slasher and Warns all the Stupid Victims (I might be stepping on #6)
Yeah that could definitely be an option. Or the Horror Expert/"Randy."
Horror Expert is much more precise than my nonsense.
I guess another one could be "Final Girl's Best Friend/Love Interest."
These are solid slasher archetypes, but I don’t know how interesting a draft they’d make. To properly do these would require teens or at least college age kids, and I just not familiar with/interested in them as draftable assets. I just don’t see myself making sure I get Lucy Hale or Skyler Gisondo. Most of these archetypes are played by no name actors anyway. You could maybe do one or two interesting lists overall, but we’d be doing like twelve or more.

Even using the characters a la Heist or Buddy Cop is a bit limited. These movies aren’t known for the strong characters.
Age-appropriate casting has never been a priority in classic slashers.
(06-24-2020, 10:34 PM)hp pufncraft Wrote: [ -> ]Going with the Build Your Own Slasher idea using archetypes, here's what I've got so far:

1. The Killer
2. The Virgin/Final Girl
3. The Promiscuous Girl
4. The Jock
5. The Fool/Stoner
6. The Scholar/Nerd
7. The Authority Figure/Local Law Enforcement
8. The Harbinger/"Crazy Ralph"
9. The Opening Scene Victim/"Chrissie"

Other than Token Black character, I can't think of too many other archetypes. Maybe the Asshole who betrays the rest of the group to save himself/"Burke." Or the Surprise Second Killer, if you're going the Scream route.

10.  The third act one-scene victim/‘Hey, you kids get outta there!’
11.  The Oracle/‘Let me tell you about what happened in 1929...’
12.  The Survivalist/‘Guns?  Those require ammo.  You can run out of ammo.  Here, take this sword.’
Those could all work. I think the Killer and the five main archetypes are the only ones you should be required to draft. For the other picks, you can choose from any of the options listed above or something else as long as it fits into a horror movie narrative.
Another idea, especially for October:

LEGION OF DOOM: Taking Over the World

Step 1: Concepts.  Everyone who signs up submits a concept with 8 characters to be drafted that must be different from what anyone else has submitted.  On Day 1, I send the list of concepts to person A to randomize.  I send a list of all participants to person B to randomize.  Those two lists are submitted to me and I match people to concepts.  That's your draft.

Step 2: People have a day to think about who they want to draft to fill out the concept they've been assigned to.  On Day 2, the draft begins, 2 people per day.

To be discussed: 
- have people draft actual characters (any) from all movies/television shows to fill out the concepts
- have people name the characters in their concepts and draft actors to fill those roles.

Thoughts?
I really think we should start incorporating 'secret santa' aspects into our drafts.
(06-25-2020, 11:37 AM)turingmachine75 Wrote: [ -> ]I really think we should start incorporating 'secret santa' aspects into our drafts.

Can you explain what you mean? Sounds fascinating!
Say we're drafting a 'slasher movie'. In addition to a witticism signaling participation, we also pm the organizer a relevant constraint or requirement that get randomly distributed to/then chosen by the players . . . like a character detail or plot point that would need to be reflected in draft choices.

'Killer obsessed with Beach Boys' or 'Set on Earth Day'

I tried suggesting something like that for the Bond draft a few years back.

More like a Secret Santa Mad Libs.
(06-26-2020, 02:06 PM)turingmachine75 Wrote: [ -> ]Say we're drafting a 'slasher movie'. In addition to a witticism signaling participation, we also pm the organizer a relevant constraint or requirement that get randomly distributed to/then chosen by the players . . . like a character detail or plot point that would need to be reflected in draft choices. I tried suggesting something like that for the Bond draft a few years back.

More like a Secret Santa Mad Libs

Did you like my idea for everyone submitting a concept that gets randomly assigned?
I liked the idea, Judas, but I was a little confused by the "list of concepts" part. So would it be like "villains taking over the world through a government conspiracy using these 8 archetypes" as one concept and "alien invasion using these 8 archetypal aliens" as another, for example?
(06-26-2020, 02:09 PM)Judas Booth Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-26-2020, 02:06 PM)turingmachine75 Wrote: [ -> ]Say we're drafting a 'slasher movie'. In addition to a witticism signaling participation, we also pm the organizer a relevant constraint or requirement that get randomly distributed to/then chosen by the players . . . like a character detail or plot point that would need to be reflected in draft choices. I tried suggesting something like that for the Bond draft a few years back.

More like a Secret Santa Mad Libs

Did you like my idea for everyone submitting a concept that gets randomly assigned?

Yeah . . . assigned is the important aspect.

The hard part is having a pool of worthy concepts/constraints to pull from that everyone can agree are. For instance, I know I have only one good one to throw at someone, anything else is eh to ert. They should also be things you'd be challanged to build from, not preexisting conditions that'll hobble you. I'd say we submit two or three ideas, and trust the runner to pick the better ones.
I think the big lesson of the Jaws draft was to keep it simple, stupid.
Personally I'd rather use my own concept than one assigned to me. We could still go with a Cabin in the Woods scenario. I'd just let people choose the horror movie they want to make. Person A might want to do a slasher, while B and C want to make a space horror film and a dystopian zombie film respectively. Sure there'd be some overlap with concepts, but I still think it could be a fun and creative draft.
I was thinking Roger Rabbit could be a good candidate for a casting draft, but we should definitely do a non-casting draft first.
Let's chill on drafts for a while.
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Batman & Robin Re-cast Draft
We did a Batman draft . . .
Must've been before my time.