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(03-13-2019, 08:17 PM)Iron Maiden Wrote: [ -> ]The issue with celebrities getting involved in a big scandal is that, of course, it's easy to pretend that they're the only part of the story:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-bizs-var...ent-trump/

Quote:Fox Business’ Stuart Varney has pinned the college admission scandal making the news on parents who ‘hate Trump.”

Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin were among the Hollywood and corporate elite who were nabbed in a high-priced cheating scandal that created a side door to admission through athletics, despite the fact the children involved were not high-level athletes. Gaming college admission tests was also part of the scam that was made public this week.

Speaking of the college scandal on Fox Nation, Varney said this: “The parents are rich and famous. The very people, the elites, who tell us how to live, how we are all deplorables.”

Then he added: “I don’t want to hear another moral lecture from Hollywood…I haven’t asked, but I’m pretty sure those parents hate Trump.”

You do have to hand it to conservatives for simultaneously arguing that only liberals are super successful people and that liberals don't know the first thing about success.

But they didnt get their kids into elite colleges the proper conservative way, by donating money and new buildings!
(03-13-2019, 08:17 PM)Iron Maiden Wrote: [ -> ]The issue with celebrities getting involved in a big scandal is that, of course, it's easy to pretend that they're the only part of the story:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-bizs-var...ent-trump/

Hold that thought!

https://uproxx.com/viral/lori-loughlin-h...supporter/

Quote:Of course, Loughlin did not act alone, as her apparel company-founder husband, Mossimo Giannulli, shares the blame for the alleged crime. And while there has been lots and lots of irony associated with Loughlin’s part in the scandal, her husband asks to kindly hold his fancy beer while he adds some hypocrisy to the whole thing.

According to Tom Arnold, just weeks before the scandal broke, Giannulli was sloshed at a Hollywood party going on about his support for President Donald Trump and how people should be “carrying their own weight.” Oh, do tell!

“Couple wks ago I got into it with for 10th time with #CollegeCheatingScandal DAD at big party cause his sloppy ass was rambling on again about Trump & people carrying their own weight & his own conservative politics being ‘right of Attila the Hun,'” Arnold, an outspoken Trump critic tweeted earlier this week. “He embarrassed Scandal Mom again.”

I mean, it's Tom Arnold, so take it with a grain of salt.
He didn't say anything about True Lies 2 gonna start filming any day now?

ANY DAY NOW!
It's legitimately weird how good Tom Arnold is in True Lies. If I was that good in something, and also a big fat windbag, I wouldn't shut up about it either.
That's why I don't doubt that Cameron can actually make movies that are glasses-less 3D. If he can make Tom Arnold likeable, he can do ANYTHING..
You don’t need glasses! This simple three hour surgery will allow you to see all of the Avatar sequels in glorious Cameron-Vision!
I await the day when they make 16k TVs. Star Wars in 8640p! Shit so clear that you have to buy the new eyes that are able to take it all in..
(03-16-2019, 11:23 AM)superlaser Wrote: [ -> ]You don’t need glasses! This simple three hour surgery will allow you to see all of the Avatar sequels in glorious Cameron-Vision!

You're saying I could see in THREE dimensions!

Witchcraft!
In case anyone cares, which I can understand if you don't, Bill Maher on his show last night (which I read about and didn't watch) apparently called out the Democratic Party basically calling them cowards for refusing to deal with Fox News come next years primaries.

I mean I understand his argument that you're not getting anywhere by not at listening to the "other side". On the hand, he clearly doesn't get that Fox News is de-facto state run media at this point, something that you'd find in North Korea or the old USSR.
Here's the thing: when the "other side" is unapologetic white supremacy, xenophobia and fascism, I don't think that point of view has any validity in a civilized society. When your most ardent supporters are mass shooters and hatemongers, you don't get to participate in the conversation anymore.
(03-16-2019, 08:48 PM)history buff Wrote: [ -> ]In case anyone cares, which I can understand if you don't, Bill Maher on his show last night (which I read about and didn't watch) apparently called out the Democratic Party basically calling them cowards for refusing to deal with Fox News come next years primaries.

I mean I understand his argument that you're not getting anywhere by not at listening to the "other side". On the hand, he clearly doesn't get that Fox News is de-facto state run media at this point, something that you'd find in North Korea or the old USSR.


Well, he's not wrong...

I thought the Dems had refused to give Fox News a -Presidential- debate, which they definitely should do. If there's a Republican on the stage, Fox will forego the news and go straight to the propaganda.

But in a primary debate, what are they going to do? Ask questions that tilt towards Republican framing? Shouldn't a potential President be able to handle a tough/biased/idiotic question? If a Democratic candidate can nudge just 1% of the voting public that gobbles up Fox News towards, "Hmm, that person doesn't SEEM like a baby-eating, puppy-raping alien demon in a flesh suit!", that could make a difference.

And if candidate goes down in flames over a question from the inbred failing-upwards hosts at Fox... then they weren't the one we wanted anyway.
(03-16-2019, 11:38 PM)farsight Wrote: [ -> ]Well, he's not wrong...

I thought the Dems had refused to give Fox News a -Presidential- debate, which they definitely should do. If there's a Republican on the stage, Fox will forego the news and go straight to the propaganda.

But in a primary debate, what are they going to do? Ask questions that tilt towards Republican framing? Shouldn't a potential President be able to handle a tough/biased/idiotic question? If a Democratic candidate can nudge just 1% of the voting public that gobbles up Fox News towards, "Hmm, that person doesn't SEEM like a baby-eating, puppy-raping alien demon in a flesh suit!", that could make a difference.

And if candidate goes down in flames over a question from the inbred failing-upwards hosts at Fox... then they weren't the one we wanted anyway.

Pretty much.
Of course, I said all that, but forgot to add the...

BUUUUT... I also have no problem with formally declaring Faux News on par with The Enquirer as a news organization unfit for giving -any- legitimacy. You wouldn't give interviews or debates to Facebook, and it's as popular a source of "news" as Fox. In truth, both are tools for spreading disinformation and a platform for empty psuedo-intellectual "personalities" to pretend to be trusted news agents.

But if you're going to do that, you go all-in on it. You drop the hammer loudly and clearly. I fear that the DNC is going to split the difference and end up choosing the worst of all options: miss out on appealing to the Fox audience when it's fairly safe, then continue to grant them legitimacy when they can inflict real harm. They need a goal of either breaking into the echo chamber, or isolating and starving it; not hoping the echo chamber breaks itself.
(03-17-2019, 01:54 AM)farsight Wrote: [ -> ]Of course, I said all that, but forgot to add the...

BUUUUT... I also have no problem with formally declaring Faux News on par with The Enquirer as a news organization unfit for giving -any- legitimacy. You wouldn't give interviews or debates to Facebook, and it's as popular a source of "news" as Fox. In truth, both are tools for spreading disinformation and a platform for empty psuedo-intellectual "personalities" to pretend to be trusted news agents.

But if you're going to do that, you go all-in on it. You drop the hammer loudly and clearly. I fear that the DNC is going to split the difference and end up choosing the worst of all options: miss out on appealing to the Fox audience when it's fairly safe, then continue to grant them legitimacy when they can inflict real harm. They need a goal of either breaking into the echo chamber, or isolating and starving it; not hoping the echo chamber breaks itself.

Also this.....
Spineless sack of goo Paul Ryan joins the board of Fox Corporation - https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/media/pau...index.html

Couldn't happen to a better guy.
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Looks like we're gonna need a bigger wall.
"3 Mexican Countries"

Case in point why Democratic politicians need to treat Faux News -exactly- like Breitbart. They are the same. One just has more money behind it.
At least their obsession with chanting "build the wall! build the wall! build the wall!" makes sense now. They think they need three of them.
I hope someone at Fox got fired for that blunder.

Ron Howard: They didn't.
I have a theory that if left-leaning folks stopped watching Fox News, so they could platform all of its outrageous content to all the intelligent people who never watch Fox News (because why would you?), the goddamn channel would lose 60% of its viewership.
Noted bowtie lover, Tucker Carlson, is going after Chris Hayes' masculinity inside an attack against feminism:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-car...lute-power

Quote:Fox News host Tucker Carlson began his highly rated primetime show Monday night by taking potshots at Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and MSNBC host Chris Hayes, labeling the progressive lawmaker a “moron” while mocking his cable news competitor’s masculinity.

Last week, Hayes hosted an MSNBC town hall event on the proposed Green New Deal, featuring Ocasio-Cortez. During the Friday night town hall, Ocasio-Cortez lectured an audience member who called former Rep. Bob Inglis (R-SC) a “moron” for saying the Green New Deal is “literally impossible,” exclaiming “that’s unacceptable” while pointing her finger at the offender.

Carlson, meanwhile, had no problems throwing out insults Monday evening during Tucker Carlson Tonight.

“Chris Hayes is what every man would be if feminists ever achieved absolute power in this country: apologetic, bespectacled, and deeply, deeply concerned about global warming and the patriarchal systems that cause it,” Carlson said of the All In host.
“Chris Hayes is what every man would be if feminists ever achieved absolute power in this country: apologetic, bespectacled, and deeply, deeply concerned about global warming and the patriarchal systems that cause it,” Carlson said of the All In host.

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And here I thought it was genetics that was responsible for my legally blind left eye. Shows what I know!
(04-02-2019, 10:49 AM)Iron Maiden Wrote: [ -> ]Noted bowtie lover, Tucker Carlson, is going after Chris Hayes' masculinity inside an attack against feminism:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-car...lute-power



“Chris Hayes is what every man would be if feminists ever achieved absolute power in this country: apologetic, bespectacled, and deeply, deeply concerned about global warming and the patriarchal systems that cause it,” Carlson said of the All In host.

.....not sure how this is a bad thing but okay.
Yeah, those pesky feminists want all men to be wimpy like that cuck Chris Hayes instead of a rugged beacon of masculinity like a bowtie-wearing yuppie named Tucker.
Chris Hayes had a pretty witty response to Tucker Carlson:

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Ha, yeah, you follow any tweet with an attractive woman espousing MAGA talking points, that's exactly what you get led to. It's alarming.
And strangely ESL sentence construction.

This article might be too big for the thread in some ways, but this New York Times epic on the Murdoch Empire is quite something

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019...e=Homepage

We know a lot of it already, in snatches. But it's drawing it all together with some behind the scenes reporting.
Here's Pete Hegseth (the guy who doesn't wash his hands) of Fox saying that veterans who use the benefits they've earned lack "personal integrity."

https://twitter.com/votevets/status/1114250760240418821
Tucker's editing other people's tweets now:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bloomberg-re...n-nielsen/

Quote:Fox News’ Tucker Carlson flashed a graphic showing a tweet sent out by Bloomberg’s Jennifer Epstein during a segment calling out the left and the media for their comments after the ouster of now-former Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen.

Yet, the tweet, as it turns out, had been edited.

In the Fox News version, it looked like Epstein was sharing her own personal view about blacklisting Nielsen.

The tweet, as shared by Carlson read: “Nielsen’s next stop will be carefully watched. If any major companies hire her, pay her to speak, etc., expect to see major outcry from immigration and civil rights groups and beyond.”

Without giving full context, Carlson also used Epstein’s edited tweet as an example of extremism.

“In other words, for her sins, Kirstjen Nielsen should not be allowed to have a job,” he said in response to the tweet. “She must be carefully watched. By the way, anyone who disagrees with that assessment should not be allowed to work either or speak in public or post on social media or sell books on Amazon or use banks. That’s their position. It’s the definition of extremism. Anyone who disagrees with me must be hurt.”

Yet, as Epstein quickly pointed out, what was seen and heard on Carlson’s show was not her whole tweet.

And as she shared on Monday night, “Tucker Carlson’s show edited a tweet of mine when it appeared on air tonight.”

She added: “They left out the colon and link to a story about groups that have pledged to protest companies that hire Nielsen or others involved in the family separation policy.”
(04-08-2019, 08:43 PM)Iron Maiden Wrote: [ -> ]Here's Pete Hegseth (the guy who doesn't wash his hands) of Fox saying that veterans who use the benefits they've earned lack "personal integrity."

https://twitter.com/votevets/status/1114250760240418821

As a veteran, shit as a fucking human being, this is fucking disgusting.
(04-09-2019, 10:04 AM)ska oreo Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-08-2019, 08:43 PM)Iron Maiden Wrote: [ -> ]Here's Pete Hegseth (the guy who doesn't wash his hands) of Fox saying that veterans who use the benefits they've earned lack "personal integrity."

https://twitter.com/votevets/status/1114250760240418821

As a veteran, shit as a fucking human being, this is fucking disgusting.

Their argument is incredibly stupid, even by Fox standards.  Saying there are 3 times as many veterans on disability now vs right after WWII is really disingenuous.  They know damn well there are a number of factors that account for this, including:

-There are still living veterans from WWII, Korea, Vietnam, the first Gulf War, etc. receiving care
-The quality of care is vastly superior now and people don't die of their injuries on the battlefield (or due to residual complications when they get home) like they did in 1946.

They know this, and still deploy this bullshit argument. Why do vets side with these assholes?
It's truly a clip that deserves to be circulated.