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There is some jerk at work who always puts it on Fox News in the break room in the morning. I always hear some while I’m getting my morning tea...I either feel dumber or angry as I flip the tv to ESPN or something.
Tucker Carlson and John Bolton both gave keynote addresses at the same National Conservatism conference this summer, but that didn't stop Carlson from celebrating the other's White House exit by calling him "a man of the left."

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carls...-the-left/

Quote:Fox News’ Tucker Carlson has been publicly critical of John Bolton on numerous occasions, so it’s no surprise that he opened his show tonight declaring that his leaving the White House is “great news for America.”

“Especially for the large number of young people who would have been killed in pointless wars if Bolton had stayed on the job,” he said. “They may not be celebrating tonight, but they should be.”

Carlson mocked both Democrats and Republicans concerned about his departure and the circumstances surrounding it, saying they’re glossing over the actual details of what Bolton did and foreign policy catastrophes he continues to defend.

He recalled the time he faced off with Bolton on his show and knocked the former Fox News contributor’s “selective amnesia” and unwillingness to admit mistakes, and Carlson also played clips of his past warnings about Bolton having power in Washington again.

At one point, Carlson argued that John Bolton is actually “a man of the left” and was actually “one of the most progressive people in the Trump administration”:

“If you’re wondering why so many progressives are mourning Bolton’s firing tonight, it’s because Bolton himself fundamentally was a man of the left. There was not a human problem John Bolton wasn’t totally convinced could be solved with the brute force of government. That’s an assumption of the left, not the right. Don’t let the mustache fool you. John Bolton was one of the most progressive people in the Trump administration. By the way, naturally, once he was ensconced there, Bolton promoted Obama loyalists within the National Security Council. That shouldn’t surprise you either.”
Aw, I thought Carlson was getting fired, too. What happened with that?
Ingraham and Hannity had an awkward transition between shows recently, and here's Maddow and Hayes talking about it:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-maddo...-by-proxy/

Quote:MSNBC primetime hosts Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow ran through all the feels — cringing, laughing, and offering sympathy — in reaction to the surprisingly charged and extremely awkward show handoff between rival Fox News hosts Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham the previous night.

On Tuesday, Hannity had begun the transition to Ingraham’s show by lodging a friendly complaint that she had cut away too quickly from President Donald Trump’s rally on Monday night. Ingraham, however, seemed ambushed by the comment and fired back, zinging her colleague’s well-documented loyalty to Trump, saying: “Is that the White House speaking, or is that you?”  The mood only got more tense as the pair bantered back and forth.

Hayes also noticed the strained, we’re-so-totally-not-fighting vibe between the Fox News hosts and called it out in his “Thing 2” segment earlier on his show. (See video below.)

“Sometimes it feels like there’s a competition over at Trump TV to see who can be the most shameless toady for the White House,” Hayes said. “Now I’m a little worried that competition may be straining the relationships between the good friends hosting the shows over there. Last night there was a bit of of an incident and you can tell their good TV friends because they keep smiling as they saw awful stuff to each other.”

When it came time for Hayes’ hand-off to Maddow, the two couldn’t help but revisit the moment.

“Chris, I promise in all the time you and I share adjacent shows on this TV network we will never have a crossover like the one you just played from Fox,” Maddow said, straight-faced, causing Hayes to break down laughing: “Oh my god! My, my god. My god. My god!”

“I could talk about this for an hour, not 30 seconds or 40 seconds,” Hayes added.

“Bu you nailed the thing that was scariest about it, which was the distance between the facial expressions and the conversation. I mean, that was like hide under a table this is a scary family fight.

“That’s exactly what it was! It had real family fight vibes to it,” Hayes agreed, cracking up. “I hope everyone is making up and making amends.”
Buck Sexton likely thought there'd be no pushback on Fox for picking on 16-year-old Greta Thunberg, but he was actually met with some resistance:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-h...id-bashing

Quote:Conservative pundit Buck Sexton seemingly thought on Thursday afternoon that he was in a safe space to mock 16-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg by appearing on Fox News. He apparently thought wrong.

While sitting in as the lone male guest-host of Outnumbered—a woman-led daytime talk show—Sexton joined forces with co-hosts Dagen McDowell and Melissa Francis in ridiculing NBC News for launching a “climate confessions” section.

“Climate change is a religious belief for people who think they’re too smart for religion,” Sexton declared. “They’re asking for forgiveness. Do you think there is a world where it makes a difference?”

After Francis took an additional shot at NBC for their climate-change section, asserting that people “really don’t love sanctimony,” Sexton took the opportunity to take aim at Thunberg, who recently called on Congress to “listen to the scientists” on climate change.

“The biggest weakness this stuff always has is the spokespersons for this movement. They also have this young girl who is, what, 16? We gonna ask her about the Fed rate next?” he snarked.

Immediately, all three co-hosts, two of whom are overtly right-leaning, took Sexton to task for making fun of a teenager.
“No picking on children,” Francis exclaimed. 

Dagen McDowell added: “She’s a kid!”

Sexton, meanwhile, insisted he was not picking on Thurnberg but just expressing that he felt it was ridiculous for her to testify about climate change in front of Congress, prompting more shout-downs from the panel.

“No kid bashing,” Francis declared.
Silly Buck. You can only bash kids when they want gun control.
Lots of juicy stories going on at Fox News right now:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/09/...an-murdoch

Hannity's worried:

Quote:Meanwhile, Trump’s biggest booster seems to be having doubts of his own. This morning, Sean Hannity told friends the whistle-blower’s allegations are “really bad,” a person briefed on Hannity’s conversations told me. (Hannity did not respond to a request for comment). And according to four sources, Fox Corp CEO Lachlan Murdoch is already thinking about how to position the network for a post-Trump future. A person close to Lachlan told me that Fox News has been the highest rated cable network for seventeen years, and “the success has never depended on any one administration.” (A Fox Corp spokesperson declined to comment.)

Shepard Smith vs. Tucker Carlson is publicly heating up:

Quote:Inside Fox News, tensions over Trump are becoming harder to contain as a long-running cold war between the network’s news and opinion sides turns hot. Fox has often taken a nothing-to-see-here approach to Trump scandals, but impeachment is a different animal. “It’s management bedlam,” a Fox staffer told me. “This massive thing happened, and no one knows how to cover it.” The schism was evident this week as a feud erupted between afternoon anchor Shepard Smith and prime-time host Tucker Carlson. It started Tuesday when Fox legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano told Smith on-air that Trump committed a “crime” by pressuring Ukraine’s president to get dirt on Biden. That night, Carlson brought on former Trump lawyer Joe diGenova, who called Napolitano a “fool” for claiming Trump broke the law. Yesterday, Smith lashed back, calling Carlson “repugnant” for not defending Napolitano on air. (Trump himself is said to turn off Fox at 3 p.m., when Shep Smith airs.) Seeking to quell the internecine strife before it carried into a third day, Fox News CEO Suzanne Scott and president Jay Wallace communicated to Smith this morning to stop attacking Carlson, a person briefed on the conversation said. “They said if he does it again, he’s off the air,” the source said. (Fox News spokesperson Irena Briganti denied that management had any direct conversation with Smith).

Paul Ryan has a hand in Fox' post-Trump future:

Quote:The ultimate referee of this fight will be Lachlan Murdoch. In recent months, Rupert’s oldest son has been holding strategy conversations with Fox executives and anchors about how Fox News should prepare for life after Trump. Among the powerful voices advising Lachlan that Fox should decisively break with the president is former House speaker Paul Ryan, who joined the Fox board in March. “Paul is embarrassed about Trump and now he has the power to do something about it,” an executive who’s spoken with Ryan told me. (Ryan did not return a call seeking comment.) But a person more sympathetic to Trump has told Lachlan that Fox should remain loyal to Trump’s supporters, even if the network has to break from the man. “We need to represent our viewers,” the source said. “Fox is about defending our viewers from the people who hate them. That’s where our power comes from. It’s not about Trump.”
(09-26-2019, 06:47 PM)Iron Maiden Wrote: [ -> ]Lots of juicy stories going on at Fox News right now:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/09/...an-murdoch

Hannity's worried:

Quote:Meanwhile, Trump’s biggest booster seems to be having doubts of his own. This morning, Sean Hannity told friends the whistle-blower’s allegations are “really bad,” a person briefed on Hannity’s conversations told me. (Hannity did not respond to a request for comment). And according to four sources, Fox Corp CEO Lachlan Murdoch is already thinking about how to position the network for a post-Trump future. A person close to Lachlan told me that Fox News has been the highest rated cable network for seventeen years, and “the success has never depended on any one administration.” (A Fox Corp spokesperson declined to comment.)

Shepard Smith vs. Tucker Carlson is publicly heating up:

Quote:Inside Fox News, tensions over Trump are becoming harder to contain as a long-running cold war between the network’s news and opinion sides turns hot. Fox has often taken a nothing-to-see-here approach to Trump scandals, but impeachment is a different animal. “It’s management bedlam,” a Fox staffer told me. “This massive thing happened, and no one knows how to cover it.” The schism was evident this week as a feud erupted between afternoon anchor Shepard Smith and prime-time host Tucker Carlson. It started Tuesday when Fox legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano told Smith on-air that Trump committed a “crime” by pressuring Ukraine’s president to get dirt on Biden. That night, Carlson brought on former Trump lawyer Joe diGenova, who called Napolitano a “fool” for claiming Trump broke the law. Yesterday, Smith lashed back, calling Carlson “repugnant” for not defending Napolitano on air. (Trump himself is said to turn off Fox at 3 p.m., when Shep Smith airs.) Seeking to quell the internecine strife before it carried into a third day, Fox News CEO Suzanne Scott and president Jay Wallace communicated to Smith this morning to stop attacking Carlson, a person briefed on the conversation said. “They said if he does it again, he’s off the air,” the source said. (Fox News spokesperson Irena Briganti denied that management had any direct conversation with Smith).

Paul Ryan has a hand in Fox' post-Trump future:

Quote:The ultimate referee of this fight will be Lachlan Murdoch. In recent months, Rupert’s oldest son has been holding strategy conversations with Fox executives and anchors about how Fox News should prepare for life after Trump. Among the powerful voices advising Lachlan that Fox should decisively break with the president is former House speaker Paul Ryan, who joined the Fox board in March. “Paul is embarrassed about Trump and now he has the power to do something about it,” an executive who’s spoken with Ryan told me. (Ryan did not return a call seeking comment.) But a person more sympathetic to Trump has told Lachlan that Fox should remain loyal to Trump’s supporters, even if the network has to break from the man. “We need to represent our viewers,” the source said. “Fox is about defending our viewers from the people who hate them. That’s where our power comes from. It’s not about Trump.”

This is all pretty big if true.  If Fox turns on Trump the base will turn on Trump, or at least enough of it will.
Fox is not going to turn on him. Ailes may be gone but insulating a Republican from impeachment is still their raison d'etre. Shep Smith will probably end up on MSNBC.
Yeah, I'm watching Maddow ATM and for shits and giggles turned over to Hannity....and yep, he has diGenova on spewing bullshit about Biden.
"“Paul is embarrassed about Trump and now he has the power to do something about it,” an executive who’s spoken with Ryan told me."

YOU WERE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, YOU SIMPERING SHITWEASEL!
^ Frankly, I'm shocked that Shep has lasted this long since Trump took office. They must've dangled one helluva payday before him to get him to stay on (plus, he undoubtedly knows where most of the Ailes-era bodies are buried, too). But as you say, he's very likely not long for this Fox-world, and I can definitely see him getting snapped up by MSNBC or CNN in the not-too-distant future, here.
It's hilarious that Shep is basically the only reason Trump leaves the couch.

It makes perfect sense that now that Ryan is no longer Speaker of the House, but on the board of Fox News, that he can finally effect some change in the Republican Party. Good Lord.
Geraldo Rivera seems pretty sad that Sean Hannity wasn't around to protect Richard Nixon:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/geraldo-rive...and-nixon/

Quote:Geraldo Rivera praised Sean Hannity on his show Tuesday night for all his show is singlehandedly doing to defend President Donald Trump right now.

Hannity said tonight, “They are out to destroy this man, they have been from day one, and they will again to accomplish this.”

Rivera proceeded to give Hannity and his show a lot of credit, calling him the difference between Trump and Nixon:

“If it wasn’t your show, Sean, they would destroy him absolutely. You’re the difference between Donald J. Trump and Richard Nixon. In Nixon’s case, if he had someone that stuck up for him, he wouldn’t have been motivated to cover up that burglary, he would’ve let the perpetrators get their just desserts.”

Hannity responded, “I don’t necessarily agree with your analysis, but I will tell you they lie, I’m sick of it. They’re hurting the country, I’m sick of that too. And their double standard is repulsive at this point.”

“Everything you say is absolutely true,” Rivera responded, “but watching your show and watching your producers work and seeing these packages where you put the lie exactly to what they’re saying — who else is doing that? The nation is being fed this constant stream of propaganda and impeachment. Some of these people have been calling for his impeachment from the microsecond he was elected.”

Last year, Rivera made similar remarks telling Hannity Nixon wouldn’t have been forced to resign if a guy like him had been around.
Good riddance:

https://www.thewrap.com/exclusive-host-t...-fox-news/

Quote:Fox News radio host and commentator Todd Starnes has been ousted from the network, its website contract and the premium subscription service Fox Nation, the company told TheWrap on Wednesday.

He made headlines as recently as Monday for comments during his  his radio program that Democrats do not believe in the Christian God and instead may worship Moloch, a pagan god often associated with child sacrifice.

Fox News on Wednesday confirmed that Starnes is no longer working at the network but did not elaborate on the reasons behind his departure. An individual with knowledge of the situation told TheWrap Starnes’ exit “was in the works well before Monday.”

In the place of his “Fox News & Commentary” radio program, Fox News Radio will broadcast “Fox Across America.” The opinion show will rely on a rotation of various Fox News personalities until a new permanent host is named.
That goat I sacrificed to Moloch is paying off!
Here's another story of Fox infighting over impeachment:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle...story.html

Quote:“This is war,” Laura Ingraham declared on her prime-time show, describing a letter from White House counsel Pat A. Cipollone that said the White House would not permit the president or any member of the Trump administration to appear before the House impeachment inquiry.

She could just as easily have been referring to the tensions roiling Fox. Trump is a famously loyal viewer of the channel, and the attention he pays it has helped drive ratings and amplify the messages of its most outspoken hosts. But that amplification has stoked friction between on-air personalities who are aware of the stakes and realize what they say carries huge implications for the country, according to a half dozen current and former staffers and contributors, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the network or feared retribution for speaking frankly.

The president is taking shots at Fox, chiding news anchors who present non-laudatory views of his administration. Right-wing media is trying to outflank the channel by allying themselves completely with Trump. Internal strife is spilling out onto the airwaves. And yet, these are heady times for Fox News.

Fox’s relentless focus on Monica Lewinsky while covering the 1998 impeachment of Bill Clinton helped propel the channel’s early success. This impeachment story finds Fox on the side of the sitting president, and far from the striver it used to be.

And:

Quote:The internecine conflict is an open discussion on air. Tuesday night, after former Trump attorney Joe diGenova called the whistleblower who spurred the impeachment inquiry a "suicide bomber" on Ingraham's show, she followed up quickly to remind viewers that diGenova meant a "political suicide bomber." Viewers — and perhaps other Fox personalities — who objected to the comments, she said, should "get a sense of humor, okay. If you still think that, then you really should watch another show where we need to spell it all out for you."

Last week, diGenova was involved in another dust-up.

The consternation started when former judge Andrew Napolitano, a Fox pundit who has turned on Trump in recent months, told Fox chief news anchor Shepard Smith on-air that Trump’s call to Ukraine’s president, during which he pressured him to investigate former vice president Joe Biden, was a “crime.” Later the same day, Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who has a warm relationship with Fox Corp. CEO Lachlan Murdoch, invited DiGenova onto his show. DiGenova called Napolitano a “fool.” The next day, Smith said it was “repugnant” for Carlson not to defend Napolitano. Smith has a long-standing friendship with Wallace, the Fox News president, who used to produce Smith’s show.

“Internally, Hannity is a live wire and an opinion guy, and that gives him the ability to say anything he wants,” Wilson said. “But the battering that guys like Shep Smith and even [anchor] Bill Hemmer take if they seem they are off the reservation is brutal.”

On-air sniping is a relatively new phenomenon for Fox News. Under longtime chairman and CEO Roger Ailes, who kept a tight rein on Fox News personalities and created a culture of fear inside the building, “people would have been too afraid to fight out in the open like that,” said a former producer. “They would not even have tried.”

“It’s survival of the fittest,” one current staffer said, describing a dynamic that tends to favor on-air personalities with the highest ratings and those most willing to engage in a public feud.

On his show, Lou Dobbs recently allowed DiGenova and his wife Victoria Toensing, an attorney, to accuse “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace of violating an off-the-record agreement. In September, Hannity chided Ingraham for cutting away too early from a Trump speech. In May, Ingraham called “America’s Newsroom,” a morning news program on Fox hosted by Bill Hemmer and Sandra Smith, to express her dismay at the way the media — including Wallace — was covering Robert Mueller’s letter to Attorney General William Barr, which critiqued Barr’s characterization of Mueller’s report. Wallace appeared on air later in the day and responded to Ingraham, though not by name.

All the attention has made Fox personalities stars in their own right. Some opinion hosts have been regularly depicted on “Saturday Night Live.” And they are enjoying the attention.

Jeanine Pirro, who is an old friend of Trump’s and one of his fiercest defenders, attempted to meet with Cecily Strong, who plays Pirro on SNL, according to two people familiar with the incident. “NBC said, ‘Uh, we aren’t interested,’ ” one of the people said.

“I thought it would be a hoot [to meet Strong],” Pirro said in a statement through a Fox News spokesperson. “I saw an article several months ago where she was asked if she ever met me and my recollection was that she said something along the lines that she had not, but hoped that I knew it was all in jest.”
Shepard Smith has resigned.
Yeah. Looks like - for now - the pro-Pumpkins faction is winning the war there.
Hope he lands at MSNBC or CNN.
So, basically, Barr meets with Murdoch.  The next day, Smith is gone and Trump is sharing a Wall Street  Journal op-ed with Congress:

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1...9783651333

Quote:The White House legislative affairs office blasted out the below WSJ piece to senators, telling them: “The President has asked for this article to be shared with you.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-smo...1570746257

Interesting coincidences.
(10-11-2019, 04:46 PM)Judas Booth Wrote: [ -> ]Hope he lands at MSNBC or CNN.

Going by his on-air farewell message, he’s apparently under a noncompete-agreement for the foreseeable future, and mentioned that he won’t be appearing onscreen for awhile, but yeah. Hoping he eventually gets snapped up by one of the other two big ones, here.
He can go suck an egg. Anyone who cashed Fox News paychecks is filth. Jesus, you guys.
(10-11-2019, 05:01 PM)bradito Wrote: [ -> ]He can go suck an egg. Anyone who cashed Fox News paychecks is filth. Jesus, you guys.

+1

He could have quit years ago if he had a spine but no, he 'willfully' was allowed to stick around to be the resident 'liberal' that allowed them to still be able to legally use the term 'fair & balanced'.

If he really wants to redeem himself, he'd say 'fuck it' to the NDA and spill all the beans on how corrupt they all are at FoxNews.
(10-11-2019, 05:14 PM)vtran Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-11-2019, 05:01 PM)bradito Wrote: [ -> ]He can go suck an egg. Anyone who cashed Fox News paychecks is filth. Jesus, you guys.

+1

He could have quit years ago if he had a spine but no, he 'willfully' was allowed to stick around to be the resident 'liberal' that allowed them to still be able to legally use the term 'fair & balanced'.

If he really wants to redeem himself, he'd say 'fuck it' to the NDA and spill all the beans on how corrupt they all are at FoxNews.

Honestly, I bet he's working on a tell-all book now.  He's got a lot of time coming up 'on the bench' before he can broadcast again, so I'm sure he's got something cooking in terms of a tell-all.
I dunno, anything that could splinter off some of FOX’s viewership bloc may have some merit to it.
I'm convinced that a majority of Fox News' viewership is made up of left-leaning Twitter journos who feel compelled to signal-boost every dipshit thing that trash network puts out, so they can get 10,000 mentions that are some variation of the following:

"This is not who we are."
"What the actual fuck?"
"Trump 2020!"
I may have jumped the gun a little:

https://twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1182764748015919104

Quote:NEW: The Barr-Murdoch meeting was *not* related to Shep Smith's exit, Chris Giglio, a spokesman for Shep, tells me via email. "This was Shep's decision and his alone."

I think I'm prone to always consider the worst with Trump and his cronies, but I'm usually pretty good at letting the stories unfurl first.  My bad.
Or maybe it's something else.  The reporting is all over the place right now:

https://twitter.com/AndrewKirell/status/...6851645441

Quote:Based on what I'm hearing, it's almost too obvious what happened: Fox's primetime stars, especially Ingraham, whined to brass about Shep's fact-checky jabs. Fox gave him an ultimatum; he refused. They pushed him out.

Lots of people loyal to Smith are expected to leave:

https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1...2007766018

Quote:One Fox employee notes to me that some Fox staffers "were here and have stayed here solely for Shep."

"Don't be surprised if there's an exodus," the person said, adding, "Fox hasn't just lost Shep today."
Posted on Facebook about Shep leaving, and my Trump-worshipping/Infowars-listening mom just claimed that Shep “sexually assaulted” another guy in his sleep while staying over at his own house, and that “[the] MSM is trying to wipe it from the news.”

Is this actually a thing or not?
(10-11-2019, 07:02 PM)leto ii Wrote: [ -> ]Posted on Facebook about Shep leaving, and my Trump-worshipping/Infowars-listening mom just claimed that Shep “sexually assaulted” another guy in his sleep while staying over at his own house, and that “[the] MSM is trying to wipe it from the news.”

Is this actually a thing or not?

This is a perfect example of how truly fucked up the internet can be.

Random ANONYMOUS ignorant incel fuckhead verbal arsonists can purposefully yell 'fire' without ever suffering true repercussions.

While the anonymity of the interwebs can be used for good, it's mostly been co-opted by sociopaths.
This is why critical thinking has to be a foundation class in school.
(10-11-2019, 05:16 PM)schwartz Wrote: [ -> ]I dunno, anything that could splinter off some of FOX’s viewership bloc may have some merit to it.

For the most part, I don't think they're loyal to on-air personalities. One of the diabolical genius elements to Faux Noise is that it's truly a BRAND that surpasses individuals.

And Shep Smith has long been an outlier for the network. Losing Ingraham and Hannity, say, abruptly and in quick succession, MIGHT put a dent in their viewing....but in the long run, I don't think so.
Yeah they fired Oriley and it didn't seem to hurt their ratings at all.