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On a societal level, we need public school systems that encourage critical thinking more than they do filling out worksheets by rote and sitting still for 7 straight hours. People need to be willing and able to seek out information from a variety of sources, some of which are hopefully neutral and factual, and use them to assist their decision making.

There need to be more neutral factual sources of news and history to make that work. I don't know the solution to that, since no source of funding can be completely free of bias.

The death of print media at the same time as the rise of social media has created a perfect storm of bullshit. With print media, at least there is some sort of accountability with paid editors and fact checkers. If no one is being paid to supervise reporting, no one is responsible or accountable for the end product. Many people today consider untraceable and unattributable "news" on Facebook to be indistinguishable from traditional news.
(02-08-2021, 06:32 PM)kyle reese 2 Wrote: [ -> ]On a societal level, we need public school systems that encourage critical thinking more than they do filling out worksheets by rote and sitting still for 7 straight hours.
That right there is a fucking bingo.
Yeah, we need a better plan than, "Please, social media companies, save us from our own stupidity!"
Oh do not get it twisted: I'm certainly not suggesting that corporations save us. I just figure that it's the easiest thing to do . The long plan is actually teaching people not to be dumb fucks.
I have no idea what is going on in that pic.
Neither do they..
Celebrities -- the right's favorite boogeymen, famous people who for some reason aren't sociopaths, eek!!
(02-09-2021, 02:29 PM)bradito Wrote: [ -> ]Celebrities -- the right's favorite boogeymen, famous people who for some reason aren't sociopaths, eek!!

Also Republicans -- OH MAN LOOK AT KANYE WEST. I'VE ALWAYS LOVED HIS MUSIC.
Bongino's not having a good 2021 so far:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/judge-orde...out-merit/

Quote:A federal judge in Florida ordered right-wing political commentator Dan Bongino to pay The Daily Beast more than $30,000 in attorney’s fees stemming from a defamation lawsuit he filed against the news organization that was previously dismissed as being “without merit.”

In December 2019, Bongino filed a lawsuit in South Florida’s U.S. District Court claiming The Daily Beast had “smear[ed]” his reputation and harmed his business by publishing an article titled “Dan Bongino Out at NRATV – BONGI-NO-MORE” in December 2018. He specifically alleged that the statement, “the National Rifle association’s media arm has dropped pro-Trump firebrand Don Bongino from its lineup of conservative commentators,” was false. After the article was published, both Bongino and NRATV released public statements saying that the decision not to renew the show was Bongino’s, not the network’s.

Attorneys for the Daily Beast responded by arguing that the article was not defamatory, and filed a motion to dismiss the case under Florida’s Anti-Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation (Anti-SLAPP) law. Such measures are meant to prevent people and companies from using the courts to stifle constitutionally protected First Amendment speech.
"Firebrand" needs to stop being a journalistic euphemism for "extremist."
(02-09-2021, 07:12 PM)bradito Wrote: [ -> ]"Firebrand" needs to stop being a journalistic euphemism for "extremist."

This.  Everyone's afraid of saying the "T" word or the "F" word because they might get sued.
I feel like Carlson is actually getting more conspiratorial post-Trump, which I didn't think was possible.

The amount of gaslighting happening in this clip about impeachment and George Floyd is nuts:

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/statu...6736332800

A lot of our parents and their friends are watching this stuff, completely unaware of what went down at the Capitol or that two separate autopsies ruled Floyd's death a homicide.
At this point, Carlson is barely trying to hide the fact that he is a white supremacist. Cause goddamn those dog whistles are loud as fuck.
How the GOP was able to successfully brand themselves as The Party Of The Working Class will forever be one of life's great mysteries.

Quote:Fox News guest Dave Ramsey: "I don't believe in a stimulus check because if $600 or $1400 changes your life you were pretty much screwed already. You got other issues going on."

https://twitter.com/existentialfish/stat...1064262656
(02-11-2021, 03:00 PM)fuzzy dunlop Wrote: [ -> ]How the GOP was able to successfully brand themselves as The Party Of The Working Class will forever be one of life's great mysteries.

Quote:Fox News guest Dave Ramsey: "I don't believe in a stimulus check because if $600 or $1400 changes your life you were pretty much screwed already. You got other issues going on."

https://twitter.com/existentialfish/stat...1064262656

Quote:“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.” - Lyndon B. Johnson
That's a bingo.
Dave Ramsey is such a garbage human. That he managed to get his tentacles into the pockets of churchgoers across the country with his "Financial Peace" paid finance "class" series is not at all surprising. He's just another grifter profiting off of the "Aspirational Wealth" class the Republican party has cultivated over the last 50 years.
Here's Carlson trying to defend his show and network:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carls...niformity/

Quote:Carlson opened his show by mocking politically correct platitudes like “diversity is our strength” and “trans rights are human rights” as evidence of an overbearing uniformity in the country’s media and political discourse. And then he proudly pointed to his network as standing athwart all of that.

“Of all the impediments of achieving this goal of uniformity,” Carlson said, “which would include centuries of tradition, the First Amendment of the Constitution, the fact that this was a free country, of all of those, this channel, Fox News, is the most significant hurdle to getting everyone to sing from the same song sheet.”

“Fox is the last big organization in the American news media that differs from the other news organizations, the only one,” he added. “There is everyone else standing in crisp formation in their starched, matching uniforms in little caps patiently awaiting orders from the billionaire class. There is Fox News off by themselves occasionally saying things slight different from everyone else.”
"The billionaire class."


Does Carlson know who owns Fox News?
The goal of diversity is uniformity. But also diversity of thought is of paramount importance, and Fox is the most diverse. Also, Slavery is Freedom. Ignorance is Strength.
(02-12-2021, 12:16 PM)MichaelM Wrote: [ -> ]"The billionaire class."


Does Carlson know who owns Fox News?

It's the thing I've never understood about Carlson and his ilk.  He rallies against the "liberal elite," and I'm like, dude aren't you a millionaire?  Don't you have political connections?  You are the Elite!

Also, in the context of J.K. Rowling and Gina Carano, I am so fucking tired of people defending toxic rhetoric and actual hate speech as being necessary to a "functional Democracy."  No they're fucking not. Had to deal with a lot of incel assholes yesterday who bemoan Disney's firing of Carano as one step closer to a "Fascist State," and my response came down to: "How does any of that add to any discussion?"  The answer of course is: "It doesn't."  Free speech only works when individuals approach any given subject in good faith and "well researched" facts. That can not happen when you have a conservative media machine dedicated to trolling and putting out fake news  What Fox does is contrarianism for the sake of contrarianism; there is no meaning other than "It's bad because the liberals want it."  

Of course Carlson knows this, because he's acting in bad faith. This is how he makes his money: selling lies to old white people who are terrified of being replaced by brown people and the gays.
(02-12-2021, 01:26 PM)ska oreo Wrote: [ -> ]Of course Carlson knows this, because he's acting in bad faith. This is how he makes his money: selling lies to old white people who are terrified of being replaced by brown people and the gays.

Also selling lies to poor or middle class whites: the lie that they, too, can one day join the ranks of the wealthy and/or that freeing the wealthy from burdensome taxes and regulation means, magically, more wealth for everyone else.
Would it blow Carlson's mind that presidents were included on kids' cable channels before?  No, probably not:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/tucker...d=msedgntp

Quote:Tucker Carlson didn't make any time to talk about Trump's second impeachment trial on his Fox News show Friday night, but he did devote a segment to delivering comically ominous warnings about a cute little video featuring Vice President Kamala Harris that the Disney Channel is running as part of a series for Black History Month in February.

Tucker conveniently omitted that bit of context in his attempt to paint the one-minute animated video, with art by the prodigious Black teen artist Tyler Gordon, as some kind of sinister force out to destroy your children's minds.

"What we're about to show you is entirely real. It's a spot airing right now on the Disney Channel. If your kids watch, they've probably seen it. It's not billed as a political advertisement. It's a Disney original. It's original content about Kamala Harris, the vice president, a politician! As you watch this, remember your children may be watching this right now," Tucker declared ominously.

"They receive no warning before they do. You probably don't know they're watching it. Listen to every word of this. Here it is."
They're working overtime at Fox today:

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/statu...4792212481

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https://twitter.com/EricLevitz/status/13...8524317696

Quote:Tucker Carlson's monologue about how the Texas deep freeze proves green energy is a folly is so *aggressively* stupid

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Hannity tried really hard to protect Cruz, but even Cruz couldn't help:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/hannity-ex...eral-days/

Quote:To kick off the interview, Hannity began foaming the rhetorical runway by talking about how he knew personally that Cruz was taking the massive Texas blackouts “seriously” and the senator was working “hand-in-hand” with Texas Gov. Greg Abbott as the unprecedented blizzard approached the state.

But the Fox host then went further, putting a fully sympathetic spin on Cruz’s decision to flee his stricken state for a family vacation at a ritzy, oceanfront resort in Mexico.

“You went and you took your daughters to Cancun and you came back,” Hannity said, clearly teeing up a friendly gloss on the GOP Senator’s conduct. “I think you can be a father and be the senator of Texas all at the same time and make a round-trip quick drop-off trip and come home.”

“Well, Sean, that’s right,” Cruz replied, nodding his head. But he then circled back to Hannity’s earlier comments starting the segment, making it unclear what he was agreeing with.

.....

Hannity notably did not mention this reporting. But just moments after the Fox host implied the Texas senator was always intending to make an overnight trip, Cruz himself acknowledged the truth.

“So last night I flew down with them to the beach and then I flew back this afternoon. I had initially planned to stay through the weekend,” Cruz admitted. “But as I was heading down there, you know, I started to have second thoughts almost immediately because the crisis here in Texas, you need to be here on the ground. As much as you can do by phone and Zoom, it’s not the same as being here.”
Just amazing:

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/statu...6961744900

Quote:Tucker Carlson says he couldn't find any evidence that the Qanon conspiracy theory even exists, like theres nothing out there proving that it's a thing

Video at the link.

Maybe Carlson should just call up his racist, former staff writer who posted on QAnon sites for confirmation that there actually are people in the world who think this shit is real.
Well, good. I'm glad we devoted our top minds to blowing this wide open.
(02-24-2021, 12:17 AM)Iron Maiden Wrote: [ -> ]Just amazing:

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/statu...6961744900

Quote:Tucker Carlson says he couldn't find any evidence that the Qanon conspiracy theory even exists, like theres nothing out there proving that it's a thing

Video at the link.

Maybe Carlson should just call up his racist, former staff writer who posted on QAnon sites for confirmation that there actually are people in the world who think this shit is real.

“Sure Tucker...that is exactly what Q is expecting you to say...you are acting just as we discussed in the secret meetings. Continue on with the deception...no one will suspect a thing...”
Megyn Kelly took her school complaints to a sympathetic Bill Maher:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/megyn-...d=msedgntp

Quote:During her Real Time appearance, Kelly admitted that she loved her children's schools which were "definitely leftist" compared to her "center right" views. "But then they went hard left," she told Maher. "Then they started to take a really hard turn toward social justice stuff." Kelly described a "three-week experimental trans education program" that took place in her son's third-grade class. "And it wasn't about support," she said. "We felt it was more about trying to convince them, like, 'come on over.' And the boys started to get confused." Kelly said that she and other parents objected, which prompted an apology from the school.

"Then our kindergartener was told to write a letter to the Cleveland Indians objecting to their mascot," said Kelly. "Now, he's 6! Can he learn how to spell Cleveland before we activate him?" In December, the pro-baseball team announced it would drop its name after years of protest from Native American organizations which called the term racist. The team has not yet settled on a new name.

"He's got things to worry about other than social activism," said Kelly of her son. "And if he's going to be activated, Doug and I should do it. Not a kindergarten teacher. Didn't run it by us."

Maher said he's heard parents parents complain, "My kids are not ready to be told they're white supremacists" and read aloud from the blog post, published on Education Post, part of which read, "There’s a killer cop sitting in every school where White children learn" the entirety of which Maher said was "hyperbole."

Kelly added, "It's divisive, it's racist and it's having exactly the opposite effect of the one they intend." She added, "And then the white people feel bad and feel judged because they're told they're white supremacists because of a pigmentation over which they have no control." The podcast host said the teaching style was pervasive throughout the city and "there was no place to move [her children] in New York to get away from this."

Maher said, “Again, I’m with you. Of course we should all acknowledge that there is racism in this country, and we have a horrible, sorry history. We don’t have an exactly horrible, sorry present, certainly as much as it was in the past. That doesn’t mean there’s not lots of work to do, and we should do it, but don’t gaslight me…I feel like this is beyond race. I feel like it’s a generational thing where so many people want their identity wrapped up being a victim.”
"I feel like it’s a generational thing where so many people want their identity wrapped up being a victim.”

Says the guy whining about being gaslit by what's being taught to other people's kids.
I dunno. Maybe if kids are taught at a young age not to be hateful assholes, they won't grow up to be Megyn Kelly or Bill Maher.
Pete went to Harvard and Princeton, for the record:

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/statu...5912401924

Quote:Pete Hegseth says that when he sits down with real Americans at diners across this nation, "they're not talking about esoteric things that the Ivy League talks about." They're talking about things like the Bible, standing for the national anthem ... and the 10th Amendment.
Sounds like Pete hung out with a lot of imaginary assholes in the diners that he made up.
I mean, if Kelly really cares that much about it, she could always home-school her kids.

Oh, wait, haha, sorry, I mean "have the maid home-school her kids."