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Like really believes it. And is raising a child. Scary.

AI didn't know Sarah Palin was your aunt!

In all seriousness, though, it's hard to know what to do about the kids in these situations.

I have a friend with a kid and he and his wife used to be raging homophobes. It took someone in our group coming out of the closet to make them change their ways. It's tough because one of the basic rules of "other people's kids" is "don't go trying to raise them", but you still want them to be a properly educated adult eventually.

I experience the kind of anxiety you're talking about a lot; not specifically creationists, but generally parents who are close to me, raising their kids in environments that would stunt them. I remember the fundamentalist upbringing I received, and how easy it was to deconstruct it once I had put some geography between my family and me, and trust in the ability of any young person to do the same when they're grown up and moved out on their own.

This has the side effect of making me terribly unsympathetic toward grown adults who have never questioned the faith in which they were brought up, but I never claimed to be perfect.
AI blame the Flintstones.
AYour cousin lives in a world with a much cooler past than yours. Good for him.
AKill them. Forced OD on Flintstone vitamins.
AI've had a close friend for over a decade, who I believed to be intelligent on a number of levels. Unfortunately he just proved his stunning ignorance recently by revealing that he believes the bible is fact. I countered with:

"What about dinosaurs? They are not referenced in the bible, and yet there is scientific proof that -"

"No, there's no such thing as dinosaurs. They never existed. Do you believe in the moon landing too?"

A difficult conversation to exit out of without wanting to brain an old friend with the nearest heavy object.
AWell, I mean, of course the moon landing was bullshit.

Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

Well, I mean, of course the moon landing was bullshit.

I am wondering why people are not more concerned with the Martian coverup. I mean, we sent an American soldier there and it turned into a Kurtz situation. He made himself king of Mars. NASA has been covering up the data.

APffft. Everyone knows the snake in the Garden of Eden was an Allosaurus.
AWhat I don't get is, what do these people say when you say "They simply didn't."

Originally Posted by Mike's Pants View Post

What I don't get is, what do these people say when you say "They simply didn't."

Based on many arguments with religious folk I've had.  Anything from "You're wrong." to "The bible said so." to various threats of physical violence.  Hence why I've given up.  In the age of information staying ignorant is a choice and I have too little time to waste trying to talk sense into those who can't cope with the fact that we are racing through the void on a tiny rock with no real significance to the universe at large.


AI love everything about that post.

I've found that asking hardcore religious folk about specific passages in their bibles is a good start....get everyone on the same page, so to speak.

Then once some complacency sets in, start hitting on the specifics....asking about the discrepancies and contradictions that crop up*.  Of course, odds are that they won't have any truly decent knowledge of the supposed book(s) they follow...(I've found this is true of about 98% of the christians I've talked to)

I think that the best one can hope for is to set the seeds of skepticism in people when it comes to these myths. When you start pointing out the HUGE number of inconsistencies present, those 'followers'  will hopefully start themselves on a exodus, if you will...for information beyond their current religious 'neighborhood'.

It certainly couldn't hurt to buy them a copy of the Joseph Campbell book, 'The Power of Myth'

*If they have any tattoos bring up Leviticus 19:28...

A[quote name="VTRan" url="/community/t/151857/my-cousin-thinks-humans-lived-with-dinosaurs#post_3784824"]

*If they have any tattoos bring up Leviticus 19:28...


Always a favourite of mine.
AWhy would you get a tattoo about forbidding buttfucking?
A[quote name="Bradito" url="/community/t/151857/my-cousin-thinks-humans-lived-with-dinosaurs#post_3784832"]Why would you get a tattoo about forbidding buttfucking?[/quote]
To advertise that you're a totally not gay macho man of course..
AOn his other arm is a tat of Jesus riding a dinosaur.

This is a bit long but totally worth the watch.

Here in the Bay Area we don't get a lot of cavemen-and-dinosaurs people, but if I could airlock every one of the moon-landing deniers I would.

  Luckily I was into dinosaurs before I started first grade at a Catholic school. I would watch any TV show about dinosaurs, be it something good like a dinosaur themed NOVA, something bad like Land of the Lost and something in between like the 3-2-1 Contact episode about fossils. I made my mother read the same dinosaur books over and over again. That is why I never believed that the world was created in six days and was only thousands of years old.

I'm really digging the videos over here. Relatively simple but for those in doubt, it's a good start.


Originally Posted by Turingmachine75 View Post

I believe Ringo Star still lives with  dinosaurs!

IIRC, some here gave me shit for doing this in the past....


Just had a couple of young women come to my door and try and sell me their biblical time share....

After giving them a minute to pimp their wares, I asked them the simple (IMO?!) 'Colbert' test question about the thing they are proselytizing.

"Can you name the 10 Commandments?"

<blank stare>

Her: "umm.....murder is one?"

Me: "pro or against....because you know, the god in that book you're holding kills a lot of people...a lot..."

Her: <blank stare>

Me: "thanks...maybe you should go and familiarize yourself a bit more with that book in your hand before you go around and try and sell it to know, it also couldn't hurt to read up on Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, and some of the other world religions.
Have a nice day."

I'm sure he's only referencing the widely accepted theory that birds are merely a specialized form of raptor-ian dinosaur.  Thus, humans always have (and still do) live with dinosaurs.

Any other conclusion is simply too ludicrous to believe.

That would require acknowledging evolution.

A[quote name="Overlord" url="/community/t/151857/my-cousin-thinks-humans-lived-with-dinosaurs#post_3789598"]I'm sure he's only referencing the widely accepted theory that birds are merely a specialized form of raptor-ian dinosaur.  Thus, humans always have (and still do) live with dinosaurs.[/quote]
Sorry, but no matter how much Randall Munroe wants to think otherwise, making birds dinosaurs just makes dinosaurs less cool. It means the fat kid in Jurassic Park was right. Do you want that, Overlord? Do you!?

My favorite non-dinosaur scene in Jurassic Park is when Grant scares the shit out of that kid.

Everytime I see this thread I think it's a "My Cousin Vinny" thread. My brain works faster than my eyes it would seem.

"My Cousin Vinny Lived With Dinosaurs". The hilarious, straight to VOD sequel.

It didn't do so well.

Damn, this Pope is the Nirvana of Catholicism....


Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are right and God isn't 'a magician with a magic wand'

The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and God is not “a magician with a magic wand”, Pope Francis has declared.

Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope made comments which experts said put an end to the “pseudo theories” of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, Benedict XVI.

Francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator – arguing instead that they “require it”.

“When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said.

He added: “He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.

AThe Big Bang Theory began as a creationist interpretation of observed cosmic background radiation. It must be the leftovers of Genesis, someone assumed, and scientists have been doing backflips trying to fit the data into that model ever since. Meanwhile, every time we develop a telescope that can see further out than the one before it, the estimated date of creation gets pushed even further back.

Originally Posted by Chaz View Post

My favorite non-dinosaur scene in Jurassic Park is when Grant scares the shit out of that kid.

Really?  It isn't Goldblum's epic "Life ... uhhh.... finds a way" speech?

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