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What if they get Coogler for this...
Agreed that Lex should be white. It would make for some juicy metaphor/analogy.

And isn't Abrams tagged only as EP, not director?
as long as he merely operates on the level Bad Robot has on mcquarrie’s MI movies, it should be safe from JJ’s overt influence
I wouldn’t be surprised if fandom menace still gripes about it no matter Abrams’ role.

Like how they downvoted KNIVES OUT on sites like IMDB because they couldn’t get over TLJ.
(02-26-2021, 02:21 PM)bradito Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-26-2021, 02:19 PM)atomtastic Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm... John David Washington’s low key presence would actually be good for this.

Oh, heck! This would work great.

Thirded.

(02-26-2021, 02:32 PM)michael shaver Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-26-2021, 02:10 PM)Judas Booth Wrote: [ -> ]wait...what?  Cavill is done, then?

If so, then I'm betting it's because Cavill got signed for Bond.

Or Commander Shepard in the Mass Effect movie: https://www.pcgamer.com/henry-cavill-tea...ss-effect/

Femshep or nothing.  This is the hill I will die on.
Fuck this. At least as it stands now. I alwayd said that replacing Cavill would be the dealbreaker for me. At least replacing him before the time felt right. Fuck a reboot. Losing Cavill but "gaining" JJ Abrams. *clenches fist*

I could stand to see Idris Elba as Zod but...really just fuck this whole line of thinking.

I remember when reboots were cool. Now I wish they'd just fucking stop. I hate that term..
I think this is perfect for JJ to produce. He's great at getting franchises back on track, casting the right actors, setting everything up.

Just as long as he stays the producer!
Oh absolutely. With Coates writing and please-dear-god-keep-Abrams-away-from-directing we could really have something here.
I'm thinking John David Washington as Superman, Jesse Plemons as Lex Luthor and as Lois... Aubrey Plaza?

Controversial Lois: Kristen Stewart.
Why would you reboot Superman again? We just had a reboot less than 10 years ago.
Yeah, but it was stinky.
(02-26-2021, 03:30 PM)atomtastic Wrote: [ -> ]I'm thinking John David Washington as Superman, Jesse Plemons as Lex Luthor and as Lois... Aubrey Plaza?

Controversial Lois: Kristen Stewart.

Dear god no. Lois needs to be someone who can exude passion and a love for reporting/investigating. Plaza and Stewart are both way too low energy and dour for the role.
They're the closet I can think of getting that Margot Kidder energy.

Plaza has really moved past her low energy, Daria persona. Stewart manages to carry the entirety of Charlie's Angels on her shoulders in a really light and fun performance. They've got what it takes.
If we were to bring over any previous cast members, I wouldn't object to Amy Adams returning.
Amy Adams is pushing 50. I doubt they’d even consider her now, even though I wouldn’t object.
(02-26-2021, 03:33 PM)atomtastic Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, but it was stinky.

 Even with that opinion...we have a great Superman and something that can at least have better movies built off from it. This back to the old drawing board mentality just drains every ounce of my enthusiasm..
Honestly, even her with Cavill has a bit of Mrs. Robinson vibes, not that I minded.
I really like the idea of a black Lex. The whole thing with Lex Luthor...he has a point about Superman. You lose that when you use a white Lex...because maybe he’s just a racist, and would be fine with a white Superman. Less compelling villain. Besides, Luthor is a REALLY juicy role,if they go that way. Actors of color deserve to be supervillains...especially the one of the biggest supervillains of all time.
Amy Adams in that barhtub scene was 40.

Would bathe with her.
fraid, I love Cavill in the role but it's seemed clear to me that WB hasn't been serious about getting him back in the cape. We're five years out from BvS, and four years out from JL...with nary a realistic solo or team up film featuring Supes in development. I've made my sad peace that Cavill was screwed by WB, regardless of my desire to see him get more time as the character.

What I'm excited about - with the list of caveats I gave in a post upthread - with this version is that it truly can be something new and fresh.
(02-26-2021, 03:48 PM)first class 782 Wrote: [ -> ]I really like the idea of a black Lex. The whole thing with Lex Luthor...he has a point about Superman. You lose that when you use a white Lex...because maybe he’s just a racist, and would be fine with a white Superman. Less compelling villain. Besides, Luthor is a REALLY juicy role,if they go that way. Actors of color deserve to be supervillains...especially the one of the biggest supervillains of all time.
You aren't wrong but the studio isn't going to be able to resist a bald rich white guy as the villain. Probably throw in some Trumpisms. If they go that route I hope they do a better job than Wonder Woman 1984.
That's got to be one of the weirdest example of failing upward ever. Ta-Nehisi Coates is going from writing terrible (to mediocre) Marvel comics that couldn't sell for shit, to writing the next big Superman movie for DC/WB.
(02-26-2021, 04:06 PM)simbob Wrote: [ -> ]That's got to be one of the weirdest example of failing upward ever. Ta-Nehisi Coates is going from writing terrible (to mediocre) Marvel comics that couldn't sell for shit, to writing the next big Superman movie for DC/WB.

I’m happy it perplexes you Kate.
Failing upwards with an Award winning writer!!!
How was his Captain America run? I don't know a lot about comics specifically but when I heard that I remember being surprised that he would write that character.
(02-26-2021, 04:09 PM)atomtastic Wrote: [ -> ]Failing upwards with an Award winning writer!!!

His comic books are terrible and he's been doing it for years now.
Sure but I already knew how you felt from your post. I was asking for a second opinion.
(02-26-2021, 04:10 PM)waaaaaaaalt Wrote: [ -> ]How was his Captain America run? I don't know a lot about comics specifically but when I heard that I remember being surprised that he would write that character.

From what I saw of it, it's boring. Also kind of dumb given it's a follow-up to the whole Hydra Captain America thing and either don't want to really deal with the fallout of it, (while being about the fallout of it) or Ta-Nehisi Coates wasn't exactly clear on what happened in that whole mess of an event. It did seem to have,better art than most Marvel comics, so that's something.

He did manage to make the idea of RoboCop boring in his Black Panther and the Crew...a comic with little action or Black Panther in it.

Maybe mr. stockslivevan will tell you what he thinks of it? I mean clearly he's read his comics given he seems to have an opinion on it.
(02-26-2021, 04:15 PM)waaaaaaaalt Wrote: [ -> ]Sure but I already knew how you felt from your post. I was asking for a second opinion.

I tried to read both his BP and Cap runs. Not awful, but nothing special. About on par with the rest of the Marvel line currently, which runs mediocre to bad.

Don't even think it's Coates's fault necessarily. There just isn't anything that can be done with Captain America that hasn't been done before more than once or in classic fashion. That problem's endemic across the books.
(02-26-2021, 03:51 PM)MichaelM Wrote: [ -> ]fraid, I love Cavill in the role but it's seemed clear to me that WB hasn't been serious about getting him back in the cape. We're five years out from BvS, and four years out from JL...with nary a realistic solo or team up film featuring Supes in development. I've made my sad peace that Cavill was screwed by WB, regardless of my desire to see him get more time as the character.

What I'm excited about - with the list of caveats I gave in a post upthread - with this version is that it truly can be something new and fresh.

It's not so much that it's not gonna be Cavill or an extension of what they've been doing with (ideally) improvements....it's just the thought of restarting it all AGAIN. This idea that we constantly need Superman movies and constantly need Batman movies etc.. is strange. They can't even let anything rest awhile anymore. Go a decade or so without any of those films. Let things hibernate. The only series that I can think of that feels better just never ending ever is Bond. 

Does this also mean Gadot and Momoa are out? I sure hope not..
We got like three Batmen now and two Jokers. There could be two Supermen, maybe Cavill gets to keep doing stuff in the connected ones.
Maybe. But I'm not crazy about there being that many Batmen and Jokers. These things felt a lot more special when we didn't get nearly as many of them..
we’re well past that
With Superman being an immigrant I'm surprised the haven't gone they didn't go Mexican American for Superman. Seems like you'd have a great story to tell. Then again I don't expect the DC people to make any sense
The Ready Player One-ization of the media landscape!
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