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- chris dogg - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post
 


If by "A LOT" you mean "about a third" then ok.



I don't see how that doesn't qualify as a lot.  If only 10% of 100,000 people are retarded assholes, that means there are 10,000 retarded assholes.  Thats a lot.



I'm using that as a general comparison, not the people who've seen Godzilla specifically.  Thats just something my dad used to say.  He loves his math metaphors.




- Nooj - 05-16-2014

On my Facebook feed, the general split I'm seeing is:



... people I've met through CHUD by and large love the thing.



... people not connected through my time at CHUD are less impressed and don't like how little Godzilla is in it.  They just found the movie ok.  Some cool moments.




I'm gonna be putting this movie down a lot.  But really only when people start praising it unduly and making excuses for it.



I'd expect you all to do the same to me!!!!



Gonna be insufferable.




- jacob singer - 05-16-2014

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Gonna be insufferable.



Is it Friday already?




- bitches leave - 05-16-2014

AJust think of the response if this exact movie had been made by JJ!

Oh no I didn't...


- cccc - 05-16-2014

AIt's gonna be a love it or hate it thing. I'm sure exit exit polls are going to be mixed.


- cccc - 05-16-2014

A[quote name="Bitches Leave" url="/community/t/150689/godzilla-2014-post-release-discussion/100#post_3717708"]Just think of the response if this exact movie had been made by JJ!

Oh no I
Didn't...[/quote]

They aren't even similar filmmakers. Can't compare.


- bigmclargehuge - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by Bitches Leave View Post

Just think of the response if this exact movie had been made by JJ!

Oh no I didn't...


What does Abrams have to do with this?



Gareth Edwards made this. He's a second time director, and has shown great leaps from his first film. It's not a perfect movie by far, but its not crass commercialism bullshit (i.e. Marvel), and I'm excited where he takes this franchise.




- shaun h - 05-16-2014

Nooj and I are 2/2 in agreement on our last 2 movie outings. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria!




- Nooj - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post
 


Is it Friday already?


Get your boxing gloves on, ol' timer!




- Nooj - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by BigMcLargeHuge View Post
 


but its not crass commercialism bullshit (i.e. Marvel),



and I'm excited where he takes this franchise.



Big Grin




- grubstreeter - 05-16-2014

Me likey. I liked the slow burn and the epic tone.



I do think Cranston could have turned it down just a notch, and I'm tired of seeing obsessed characters fill their walls with newspaper clippings. I recently saw Spider-Man 2 and that cliche was present there as well. No one really does that - just a silly movie thing.



I didn't mind G's slow reveal or limited screentime - reminded me of the shark in Jaws. We even have characters named Brody.



Now if Godzilla had characters as well drawn and memorable as Jaws we'd be looking at an instant classic, instead of just highly competent blockbuster.



Hats off to Edwards - well done with your first time out in the big leagues sir.




- bigmclargehuge - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
 


Big Grin



Fair enough. I'm just happy this film didn't end in the 2nd act, and then market its next film in the ending credits.




- Jones - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by Shaun H View Post
 

Alamo's the greatest. I wish you all could have one. People who take the time to hang out in a place like CHUD deserve them.


The couple sitting next to me kept texting on their cellphones and whispering to each other.  I had to sit awkwardly with my hand against my head to block it out.  Why, why do people go to the trouble of seeing a film if they're not interested in it?  I must have wished for their death 100 times.




- Nooj - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by BigMcLargeHuge View Post
 


Fair enough. I'm just happy this film didn't end in the 2nd act, and then market its next film in the ending credits.


Oh, I know what you meant.  I was only teasing the word choice.




- turingmachine75 - 05-16-2014

AIt's a shame that nearly all of Cranston's dialogue was used in the marketing. I didn't mind Taylor-Johnson or Olsen (who should have died for the parallel to Binoche? Eh?) they never took me out, but when Cranston's character died all I could think was 'Well, he was wasted.' His untimely demise is going to turn people off. I swear a dude a few seats away muttered, "Bullshit."

I didn't care much for the opening credit sequence. It was inspired, don't get me wrong . . . just didn't 'feel' like the beginning of a Godzilla movie.

Absolutely loved it.

Did not get an Interstellar trailer, but I did get one for Edge of Tomorrow that piqued my interest.

And damn, Richard T. Jones got chunky.


- shaun h - 05-16-2014




- cccc - 05-16-2014

Twitter's interesting.  Seems very spilt.  Either hate it!  Or love it.  What's strange it seems girls like it more then the guys.  Which is odd?




- MichaelM - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by Jones View Post
 

The couple sitting next to me kept texting on their cellphones and whispering to each other.  I had to sit awkwardly with my hand against my head to block it out.  Why, why do people go to the trouble of seeing a film if they're not interested in it?  I must have wished for their death 100 times.



I would have said something. Or gotten management. That bullshit's not OK.




- cccc - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
 


I would have said something. Or gotten management. That bullshit's not OK.



Yeah, me too.  I would've raised hell and tell them to put it down.  People are idiots.




- shaun h - 05-16-2014

AThat's why all y'all muthafuckas need Alamo. They don't stand for that shit.


- jacknifejohnny - 05-16-2014

A[quote name="MichaelM" url="/community/t/150689/godzilla-2014-post-release-discussion/150#post_3717771"]
I would have said something. Or gotten management. That bullshit's not OK.
[/quote]

Yeah, I used to tolerate shit like that too, but not anymore. I've realized that getting over on people who piss me off has overtaken sex on the list of things that I enjoy. I may be a sociopath.


- kyle reese - 05-16-2014

It was good. Nothing amazing, but good. I have limited experience in the genre (mainly MST3K episodes), but most of it felt like a real Japanese monster movie to me.



Go in with lowered expectations, like I did, and the good points will stand out. I thought Monsters was a steaming piece of shit. Was everyone in that movie paid not to act? Anyways, Edwards did a much better job with this one. There wasn't as much "Whaa whaaa, everyone feel bad about the environment and humanity" as I feared.



Complaints about the humans are spot on, but its up to you how much you want to care about that. Godzilla '14 contains an ample amount of good monster movie stuff, and that's what I was looking for.



The pacing blew out a tire around the half way point and never really recovered. They could have trimmed a couple minutes of stupidity here and there, but eh whaddayagonnado.



The Big G looked beautiful, and moved and carried himself perfectly. I dug his semi-benevolent nature a lot. I'm mostly in agreement with his sparing use, since almost all of his appearances are carefully lit and crafted money shots. An extra Godzilla beat or two in the middle of the movie couldn't have hurt, though.



Our hero Ford Prefect is about as good a protagonist as little Timmy from Gamera. Oh, and nice job defusing that bomb, Mr.Big Shot Bomb Defusal Disposal Hazardous Whatever Guy. You just fucked San Francisco because you had to take a nap.




- cccc - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by Shaun H View Post

That's why all y'all muthafuckas need Alamo. They don't stand for that shit.


Hell ya!  I love their policy!




- shaun h - 05-16-2014

Ahttp://badassdigest.com/2014/05/16/badass-exclusive-the-redacted-secrets-from-godzillas-credits/


- cccc - 05-16-2014



That is awesome!  I was trying to read that and I saw it twice.  I also agree with Devin.  I liked it better the second time around.  Edwards directs the shit out of this.



BTW - It's the same guy that did the credits for Seven.




- kyle reese - 05-16-2014

Just realized this would've been better if it was all about Godzilla trying to get back to his wife and kid, but he keeps getting caught up in those damn MUTO attacks.



FEMA Guy: "Uhhh...well, some of the civilianzillas got evactuated. I'm sure your Wifezilla is fine. Maybe."



Master Sargeant: "Dammit, Godzilla! You can't just stomp in here and tell us how to do our job! We have experts for this kind of thing!"




- Nooj - 05-16-2014

AHahahaha that FEMA guy.


- mikei - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by BigMcLargeHuge View Post
 


Fair enough. I'm just happy this film didn't end in the 2nd act, and then market its next film in the ending credits.



Just as any FYI, no one, like, slide tackles you if you want to leave before the credits.




- bigmclargehuge - 05-16-2014

I can't leave because I get sandwiched in the seats by obese middle-aged men who think they're going to get a cookie if they sit through the credits.




- cccc - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by BigMcLargeHuge View Post
 

I can't leave because I get sandwiched in the seats by obese middle-aged men who think they're going to get a cookie if they sit through the credits.



Damn you Ferris!




- Jones - 05-16-2014

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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
 


I would have said something. Or gotten management. That bullshit's not OK.


I didn't want to be "that guy".  Just wanted to watch Godzilla.  I certainly sighed loudly a few times, though.



Feels good to vent.




- turingmachine75 - 05-16-2014

A[quote name="BigMcLargeHuge" url="/community/t/150689/godzilla-2014-post-release-discussion/150#post_3717798"]I can't leave because I get sandwiched in the seats by obese middle-aged men who think they're going to get a cookie if they sit through the credits.
[/quote]

Oh, yeah . . . I'm sorry about that. It's a habit I picked up watching The Phantom Menace.


- bradito - 05-16-2014

AI just start masturbating. Then when they're like, "Can you please stop doing that?" I cum all over their phone.

It's the only way I can get off anymore.


- cylon baby - 05-16-2014

Got back from seeing GODZILLA VS. THE BIG ASS TICKS



As someone who really hated Monsters (apart from two brief scenes which effectively conveyed awe and dread), I went in with lowered expectations, despite loving the teasers (Phantom Menace cured of putting much stock in trailers!).



And I really really liked it.



First, it is a very traditional Godzilla movie, down to the barely dimensional human characters, the limited screen time of Godzilla (seriously, tote up how often he's on screen in any Godzilla movie), the fight-scene-where-it-looks-like-Godziila-is-down-and-out-but-oh-shit-he's-dispensing-fire!, the pontificating about Mankind's folly (you even see that in Destroy All Monsters), and even the very end where Godzilla just glides off into the sunset.



I will say that in the Japanese movies, though the human characters were barely dimensional and often poorly written, they (or the actors maybe) were much more engaging. Here I think every member of Bryan Cranston's family tears up and bawls at some point. What a bunch of crybabies!



The audience in my Boring Whitebread Suburban audience ate this movie up! It is the first film since Avengers where they clapped and Whooped it up, especially whenever Atomic Breath was unleashed.



Random notes:



Hero Man's son weirdly resembles the 10 year old boy in John Carpenter's The Fog. Could they be the same person?!



One interesting partial omission: we never see the US Military really give any Kaiju a pounding. No Blockbuster bombs or Daisey cutters are used, and the jets are taken out via EMP before they really get to let loose. Godzilla takes a few hits from a tank or two, but mostly the Kaiju just get small arms fire. I wonder if it was felt that an extended scene of modern military weapons being ineffectual against Kaiju would have beggered belief.



I think this film will really rake it in overseas. The reason: it makes the US Military and government out to be chumps, well meaning but ineffectual. Which I think may be one reason why it will clean up in the US: it makes us out to be well meaning but ineffectual.


And dumb. "Hey these monsters eat radiation. Let's blow up an A Bomb on them!". I'm glad Edwards didn't have Watanabe's scientist point this out to the Admiral, only to cut to a close up of the Admiral's face as he says "They like to eat radiation eh? Time to give them some Indigestion! YEEEARGHH!"




- cylon baby - 05-16-2014

Sam Strange's review on BAD is spot on.



http://badassdigest.com/2014/05/15/movie-review-godzilla-is-kind-of-a-dream-come-true/