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INTERSTELLAR (An Observation By Christopher Nolan) Post-release Discussion - michael shaver - 11-04-2014

Here.



Don't say I never gave you anything.




- Nick Nunziata - 11-04-2014

My favorite part was the one involving space.




- freeman - 11-04-2014

My favorite parts so far are the ones involving a corn field... Sad  And manly, manly tears.




- Dent6084 - 11-05-2014

Just got back from this.  This is half-transcendent, half completely and preposterously insane.  The "what" of the film's third act twist is very simple to guess (indeed, parts of it are so obvious that it feels like Nolan completely didn't give a shit about hiding them).  The "how" is just mind-bogglingly weird.  Nolan-haters are gonna shit themselves.  And weirdly, given Nolan's skill at the final moment mic-drop, this one didn't quite land that final moment.  It just feels like a weird choice, given what the film's been about all along, to end it on that particular subject.



That being said, when it works, it's pretty glorious.  Nolan's vision of space - the rings of Saturn, the wormhole, the alien worlds (though the second one isn't quite as fully exploited as it could be, I think) - is truly staggering, especially in IMAX (got to see it on TCL Chinese's brand-new 70mm projector, so it looked stunning).  Bill Irwin's great fun as the voice of TARS the robot.  And McConaughey - god love him - absolutely commits 100% here.  He and Mackenzie Foy are terrific together, and he grounds the whole thing emotionally when it threatens to fly off the handle.  The rest of the cast is good (including one surprise guest star), but his work really elevates it.  And as fucking out there as it gets, thematically it's rather touching.



Also, based on today's election results, I strongly endorse its "let's get the fuck off this planet" platform. :rimshot:




- The Dark Shape - 11-05-2014

It's... god, it's certainly dense. It's messy in places. It's incredibly powerful.



And I cried three times.  Feel free to judge me.




- bradito - 11-05-2014

AI thought it was basically a pretentious "Armageddon."


- fraid uh noman - 11-05-2014

ASure you didn't just accidentally watch Deep Impact?



Enough with this non-sense though. Connery's Meteor is where it's at..


- Nooj - 11-05-2014

McConaughey pretty much saves this movie by sheer force.



I actually really liked it, but it's definitely gonna be a film I'm gonna love discussing as opposed to seeing again.



I'm probably not gonna see it again.



Holy jesus, has Nolan and Zimmer taken the volume of their collaboration to trolling levels.  Hahahaha, I approve.  ESPECIALLY in a real IMAX theater.  Scenes of quiet just RUMBLING for reasons.




Also, the surprise guest star?  Wanted to laugh so hard at the character's monologuing, but considering that character's headspace, I let it slide.



(sobbing)  "I WANT GROWNUP LOVE!!!! UNGH UNGH UNGH!!!!"


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Originally Posted by Dent6084 View Post

 This is half-transcendent, half completely and preposterously insane.


And more than a little bit trite.  But with good intentions.



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It's... god, it's certainly dense. It's messy in places.



It often felt brutally chopped up.  Like it was a huge miniseries cut down to a huge movie... like Amazing Spider-Man Too!!!




- Dent6084 - 11-05-2014

Surprise guest star's final lines made me laugh so hard.  Who says Nolan doesn't have a sense of humor?




- fraid uh noman - 11-05-2014

A[quote name="Dent6084" url="/community/t/152210/interstellar-an-observation-by-christopher-nolan-post-release-discussion#post_3798797"]Surprise guest star's final lines made me laugh so hard.  Who says Nolan doesn't have a sense of humor?
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Ok, who's the surprise guest star? Spoiler tag it obviously..


- Nooj - 11-05-2014

You can probably look it up easily online.  I'd rather not have it here so soon and tempt someone.



- fraid uh noman - 11-05-2014

A[quote name="mcnooj82" url="/community/t/152210/interstellar-an-observation-by-christopher-nolan-post-release-discussion#post_3798800"][/quote]
Oh ok gotcha..


- freeman - 11-05-2014

Since I'm not terribly hyped for this movie and I don't care about spoilers, I happened to see an IMDB page the other day that gave it away.  I'll spoiler this just in case, but my educated guess might be way off.



 I read a draft of this thing aggggggges ago, and the Murph character was a boy.  Since that role was gender reversed for the movie, I'm guessing Chastain plays old Murph?  I wonder if that role would have been better served casting an unknown to avoid the theater wide "Jessica Chastain!!!" gasps.



- Dent6084 - 11-05-2014

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Since I'm not terribly hyped for this movie and I don't care about spoilers, I happened to see an IMDB page the other day that gave it away.  I'll spoiler this just in case, but my educated guess might be way off.



 I read a draft of this thing aggggggges ago, and the Murph character was a boy.  Since that role was gender reversed for the movie, I'm guessing Chastain plays old Murph?  I wonder if that role would have been better served casting an unknown to avoid the theater wide "Jessica Chastain!!!" gasps.


That's not quite it.  While Jessica Chastain does, in fact, play old Murph, that's not who I was referring to.  There's an A-Lister who shows up unexpectedly deep into Act 2 -  he's not in any of the previews so I'll go with nooj and omit his name for now.  That being said, the character was clearly being built up as a big deal from the get-go, so getting someone of that notability/caliber to play him is not surprising.


Also, I've read that draft as well - basically, everything after they leave Earth is drastically different.  There's no


weird fractal plant alien thing that ends up helping save humanity

for one thing.




- virtanen - 11-05-2014

Does the film's ending have



huge generation ships where humans live in the future?


I'll remove this if I'm stepping over some kind of line but



does Ellen Burstyn play old Murph in the end?



- Dent6084 - 11-05-2014

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Does the film's ending have



huge generation ships where humans live in the future?


I'll remove this if I'm stepping over some kind of line but



does Ellen Burstyn play old Murph in the end?

No (though there is something similar - and is a fun visual callback to Inception, to boot) and yes.



- virtanen - 11-05-2014

Does the film end with Coop realizing this





- filmnerdjamie - 11-05-2014

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And I cried three times.  Feel free to judge me.



When don't I?




- nagboy92 - 11-05-2014

New drinking game: Take a pull or shot every time McConaughey says "Murph". 




- bradito - 11-05-2014

AIt's interesting how the robot in the movie is more emotionally available than director.

Nolan's idea of high emotions is just having everyone be a crybaby or turn into an asshole late in Act II for no reason.


- ska oreo - 11-05-2014

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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape View Post
 

It's... god, it's certainly dense. It's messy in places. It's incredibly powerful.



And I cried three times.  Feel free to judge me.


Hyped. NOLAN CAN DO NO WRONG.




- Nooj - 11-05-2014

Yes people.



Hurry up so we can gab about it.




- Nooj - 11-05-2014

Oh, with the farm/cornfield setting of the early parts of the film, Zimmer's score DEFINITELY had the sound of James Newton Howard's score for SIGNS.




- Nooj - 11-05-2014

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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape View Post
 

It's... god, it's certainly dense. It's messy in places. It's incredibly powerful.



And I cried three times.  Feel free to judge me.


I can totally see someone crying a few times during the movie.  There are some great moments in the film.




- mrbananagrabber - 11-05-2014

AAwww, I accidentally was spoiled on the surprise Guest star reading a review.

So, what will be the most common comparison? 2001, 2010, AI, Contact, Gravity, Silent Runnings, or Saturn 3?


- Nooj - 11-05-2014

For all the 2001 comparisons, there's definitely a point at which you really can't make that comparison anymore.



It eventually becomes more along the lines of the latter movies you listed.



Maybe add some SUNSHINE into it as well.



I would love SUNSHINE to get an IMAX re-release.




- Judas Booth - 11-05-2014

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Saturn 3?


Good God.




- bradito - 11-05-2014

AShit, there are three Saturn movies?


- analog olmos - 11-05-2014

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Awww, I accidentally was spoiled on the surprise Guest star reading a review.

So, what will be the most common comparison? 2001, 2010, AI, Contact, Gravity, Silent Runnings, or Saturn 3

Nothing would make me happier than for this movie to be a big-budget spiritual successor to 2010.  Love that movie and will defend it forever.



Howdy from McMurdo station, Antarctica guys.  Where they will not be showing this movie, but it basically looks like the ice planet from what I've seen from the trailers.



From my flight in:






- bradito - 11-05-2014

If you see any dogs being chased by helicopters, Olmos, you run, okay?




- scottieferguson - 11-06-2014

I'm hoping they actually show that as an orientation film.  I want to believe.




- Fafhrd - 11-06-2014

Okay, so. The ending:


Murph finally cracks a gravity manipulation drive, allowing all of humanity to leave Earth. And then they just hang around in space stations in our solar system? With the worm hole RIGHT THERE? And they don't send any follow up missions to the star system where the Endurance was, to try and find what happened to them? WTF?

Brand should have landed on the third planet and there should have already been a colony there waiting for her.



- bradito - 11-06-2014

AYeah, I don't get it.


- virtanen - 11-06-2014

I was hoping the Nolans would've fixed that to the shooting draft. Maybe it just didn't occur to them?



Confession: this thread has made me re-watch ARMAGEDDON. Thanks, everyone.




- Nooj - 11-06-2014

AARMAGEDDON always wins, Gracie.