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Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker - A "pain without end" Overlord discussion thread - Overlord - 09-13-2017

Since much of the VIII discussion has bled into IX, I figured I'd get this one started.



While not my first choice (Vaughn ... *sob*), I really liked Force Awakens and am satisfied with Abrams.  Really glad it isn't Trevorrow.




- carnotaur3 - 09-13-2017

AVaughn is a non-entity director. I can't feel anything in his movies.


- Overlord - 09-13-2017

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Vaughn is a non-entity director. I can't feel anything in his movies.


Water under the bridge now.




- headless fett - 09-13-2017




- Reasor - 09-13-2017

AI'm okay with this. The flaws in Forwakens were in the script, not in the director's chair.


- commodorejohn - 09-13-2017

AYeah, well, he's writing it too. And the BvS guy is helping.

"Do you know what the oldest lie in the galaxy is? That fear is the path to the Dark Side."

Then Kylo tries to feed Rey a Jolly Rancher.


- ambler - 09-13-2017

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Yeah, well, he's writing it too. And the Argo guy is helping.

"Do you know what the oldest lie in the galaxy is? That fear is the path to the Dark Side."

Then Kylo tries to feed Rey a Jolly Rancher.


Fixed.




- headless fett - 09-13-2017

I bet Lucas is sitting at home reading this news and smiling.



"I bet they miss me now."




- carnotaur3 - 09-13-2017

A[quote name="Headless Fett" url="/community/t/159625/star-wars-ix-untitled-2019-directed-by-franchise-lord-and-savior-j-j-abrams#post_4362439"]I bet Lucas is sitting at home reading this news and smiling.

"I bet they miss me now."
[/quote]

Lucasfilm and Disney don't miss him at all. With every controversial production mishap, the new films continue to spiral toward billions.


- Overlord - 09-13-2017

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I bet Lucas is sitting at home reading this news and smiling.



"I bet they miss me now."



Actually, Lucas is so tone deaf I could realistically believe this.




- noirheaven - 09-13-2017

"UNLIMITED POWER!!! BWAHAHAHAHA"



--J.J. Abrams in his swimming pool while he thinks no one is watching, probably




- wasp - 09-13-2017

GODDAMMIT



wait, why do I still care?




- Codename - 09-14-2017

AI still like TFA and Rogue One a bunch. As long as they keep making enjoyable films I'm still going to show up.

Discussing SW on the internet though...that I can do without.


- Stale Elvis - 09-14-2017

A"Tell me, do you bleed? You will (midichlorians)"


- Codename - 09-14-2017

ABvS: Ultimate Edition?

So fucking good.


- freeman - 09-14-2017

Being better than a bad theatrical version doesn't mean you're "so good." It means you're better than bad.  Mediocre at the absolute highest.




- Codename - 09-14-2017

ABvS Theatrical Edition?

Pretty good! With some faults that the UC fixes.

Also, Theatrical cut of Kingdom of Heaven is a rather iffy mess. But the DC of it turns it into a legit fantastic masterful proper old school Hollywood epic. Thus, I refute your spurious assertion sir!


- freeman - 09-14-2017

Kingdom of Heaven is not BvS.  It's not an insane mess.




- Codename - 09-14-2017

AOooooh Kingdom of Heaven theatrical is absolutely a mess. Whole subplots character resolutions and even entire characters are completely ripped out. Resulting in nonsensical character motivations and people just disappearing from the movie for no reason. BvS' theatrical isn't butchered nearly as bad.

But yeah, Star Wars. Should be fun.


- MichaelM - 09-14-2017

KOH theatrical is fucking boring. BOOORRRRRRIIINNG. Which neither version of BvS is, in any way.



But back to THE WAR IN THE STAR: this will be.....aaiiiiight? My expectations have not raised with the change in directors.




- Codename - 09-14-2017

AMichael gets it.

I feel much better about Ep 9 now. Even as someone who thought Jurassic World was fine(if dumb) nothing about Treverrow excited me much and I was always hoping he'd get replaced. I still say TFA does way more right than it does wrong. And plays to Abrams' strengths really well.


- noirheaven - 09-14-2017

I think the best thing that can be said is that even if Abrams just reheats elements from "Return of the Jedi" and serves them up in December 2019, at the very least this will be a competent (if awash in lens flares and camera whips) production. Colin Trevorrow was probably going to be competent, too, but his output thus far is such a strange, deeply uneven collection of movies that "probably" is as far as I'll go. It always seemed odd that Trevorrow of all directors was going to helm the capstone to this trilogy. Abrams brings a sort of subdued, at times even tedious familiarity, but as Codename says above, "The Force Awakens" mainly played to his strengths. So to me it's a significant probable upgrade. I think Trevorrow is interesting and he seems to be trying to work out a bunch of ideas in his head, so good for him, but he seemed ill-suited to take up the challenge. He's wise to not burn bridges with any public statements decrying Kathleen Kennedy or Lucasfilm or whatever.




- Paul C - 09-14-2017

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I think the best thing that can be said is that even if Abrams just reheats elements from "Return of the Jedi" and serves them up in December 2019, at the very least this will be a competent (if awash in lens flares and camera whips) production.



That idea is kind of funny though in that Jedi itself has quite often been accused of reheating elements from Star Wars. So Abrams' ep 9 would be a reheated take on a reheated take on a film he's already done a reheated take on.




- Nooj - 09-14-2017

A[quote name="Paul C" url="/community/t/159625/star-wars-ix-untitled-2019-directed-by-franchise-lord-and-savior-j-j-abrams#post_4362919"]
That idea is kind of funny though in that Jedi itself has quite often been accused of reheating elements from Star Wars. So Abrams' ep 9 would be a reheated take on a reheated take on a film he's already done a reheated take on.
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in addition to the fact that the multi-tiered finale of JEDI is something that plenty of summer blockbusters have already reheated again and again!

Including Phantom Menace!


- Paul C - 09-14-2017

Independence Day reheated it several times in just one film!




- noirheaven - 09-14-2017

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That idea is kind of funny though in that Jedi itself has quite often been accused of reheating elements from Star Wars. So Abrams' ep 9 would be a reheated take on a reheated take on a film he's already done a reheated take on.


Great point!



Those Death Star leftovers tasted like lasagna a long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...




- Paul C - 09-14-2017

Oh god I just realised what the end of this movie is going to be.



Remember the original concept for Jedi, where there would be a whole fleet of death stars?




- commodorejohn - 09-14-2017

A[quote name="Paul C" url="/community/t/159625/star-wars-ix-untitled-2019-directed-by-franchise-lord-and-savior-j-j-abrams#post_4362942"]Remember the original concept for Jedi, where there would be a whole fleet of death stars?[/quote]
hahahaha ahahaha ahahahahahaha of fucking course.


- Nooj - 09-14-2017

Aand Independence Day pretty much had a fleet of DETHSTAs hovering over earth while the master DEATHSTA was the actual DETHSTA


- MichaelM - 09-14-2017

...seriously?




- Dent6084 - 09-14-2017

AI thought it was two Death Stars in the first draft, not a fleet.

Also, Obi-Wan comes back to life, so Obi-Wan spinoff as a sequel to IX!


- Stale Elvis - 09-14-2017

ALasagne.


- noirheaven - 09-14-2017

Touche!




- barry woodward - 09-14-2017

I'm thinking Abrams will use the original REVENGE OF THE JEDI lava lake thrown room setting for EPISODE IX. It would make sense if it were under Darth Vader's castle on Mustafar.



http://bensbargains.net/thecheckout/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1004407_574143255970613_355802133_n.jpg


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- fraid uh noman - 09-14-2017

AI'm telling y'all....just wait. Young Han Solo is gonna fly into a wormhole at the end of his spin-off and plop down right in the middle of Episode IX. So we get Han again indefinitely!

Hell....I ain't even mad!