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AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - Post-Release Thread
Yeah. Dinklage was a bit off. Every time he spoke he seemed to be doing the thing that Star Lord was trying to do when mimicking Thor. It was legitimately weird although he did get a lot of laughs with the : That's... what... kill........means" line.

No. I'd dare say Dinklage gets a bit worse the second time around.
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This movie was pretty great, and I wasn't expecting to like it so much since I've not really liked either of the Russo Brothers movies. But this maybe turned out to be the most comic book of Marvel's movies. Probably the one big weakness of this movie was the Wakanda battle, the movie was moving along pretty nicely up until that point but it basically comes to a stop there. You've spent so little time with the characters there that it just feels odd when we start following a big battle with them out of the blue, it's like if Kill Bill did the House of Blue Leaves, but did it with someone other than The Bride; seems like it would've worked better if we joined the battle in mediās rēs with Thor.

The other big weakness is the deaths of Thor's crew don't exactly have the impact I think they're meant to have. You can't really have that punch when the Marvel movie right before, which was the Thor movie, so cavalierly killed off even more of Thor's friends than this did.

Like with Kong: Skull Island and its Cannibal Holocaust shoutout, I was not expecting this to take something from Ichi the Killer. Kind of makes it fell wrong Tadanobu Asano wasn't killed off in this movie.
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‘Protecting your reality, douchebag.’

Strange rocks.
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This movie was magnificent. It's the Transformers The Movie/G.I. Joe The Movie/The Empire Strikes Back/Star Trek 3: The Search For Spock/Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master of comic book movies. Just pure B-movie greatness and don't let the "B-movie" tag put you off because there's nothing better than a straight up B-movie popcorn flick with A production values whose only purpose is to entertain you. It's nearest equivalent is X-Men: Apocalypse, a movie that I also loved while both nailed the tone of the best of 1980's genre films.

The pacing is near perfect, almost relentless but takes its time when it needs to. I was worried about the shaky cam crap in the first scene (which I HATED in Civil War) but it seems that someone, probably Feige, told the Russo's to cut that shit out because afterwards it was smooth, clean and beautifully composed. Helps that they had Alexander Witt (The Bourne Identity, Casino Royale) who is one of the best 2nd unit Directors out there. The score elevates the material but they also had the balls to go silent when needed.

Thanos is now the best MCU villain, supplanting even my beloved Red Skull and it was AWESOME seeing him again as he was perfectly used. Thanos is insane but you understand his motivations and it fulfills the old adage that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

Every character gets their moments without everything being bogged down while the script is ruthlessly efficient. But even then they allow the film to breath when need be and those little moments of quietness only signify the calm before the storm.

This movie was STUNNINGLY BEAUTIFUL and is a day one Bluray purchase at any price. It's cinematography porn and the 3D was incredible. My favorite shots are the ones with tiny figures in huge landscapes which reminded me of some of my favorite moments from the PS3 game God of War and documentaries like Baraka and Samsara. I can never get enough of that.

I saw it yesterday and I'm going again today, it was that good, and I'll probably see it at least once more. I adored everything this movie had to offer and can't believe they ended it the way they did while the way it was played out reminded me of the ending to Ray Bradbury's classic story A Sound of Thunder, the eerie, almost serine silence signifying a profound event occurring. Oh and anyone who complains "everything will be reset in part 4" can eat me. All that matters is if I'm emotionally invested in what's happening and I absolutely was.

If you can't enjoy this movie then I feel sorry for you. It's the culmination of 10 years of build up in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and absolutely 100% fulfilled my expectations and even surpassed them, probably the first movie since my beloved Terminator 2 to do so. I am in complete and total awe of the spectacle!!!FACT!!!



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Gotta say that this movie really cemented Doctor Strange as one of my favorite MCU characters, which is surprising because I didn't give one damn about that character before his first movie appearance, and I also couldn't care less for Benedict Cumberbatch previously. I really like that he continues to be the guy who sees three steps ahead of everyone else, but it's the creative uses of his magic that really wins me over.

I need to watch it again but I think there's a moment where he transforms projectiles into butteflies that made me smile, and the conjuring of portals is great, but it's minor touches like the moment he goes full-Hindu mid-battle and develops multiple arms, that made me really appreciate the character. (I also love the little personality quirks, like winking at Tony after using his magic). Oh, and that cape continues to be great. The way it swipes away Tony's hand? Superb.

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hey hey I've never seen CTfactman so happy!
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If I had ONE complain, I wish they had made the characters disappear but their clothes remained while they turned into red dust as a homage to the classic 1984 movie NIGHT OF THE COMET. Great movie and I always found the visual of the disintegration really creepy and eerie.
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if that had happened, it would've been another Dragon Ball connection for me!

CELL GAME!
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I don't really know what to expect from Captain Marvel next year, but I find it very, very cool that she's been set up as this savior character that Fury has been keeping in his back pocket. Often I wonder if these new characters are going to "matter" so soon after being introduced, but Marvel is pretty deft at quickly and efficiently laying groundwork.

It's crazy that Holland has already played Spider-Man as many times as Tobey Maguire, and will surpass him next year. That's just how these things work now. Marvel blankets these movies with a character so they become familiar.
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Did your audience understand the Captain Marvel reference in the Post Credit?
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Pretty sure mine didn't!
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I don't think anyone got it. But even without knowing specifics you know this is Fury's backup plan.

As I was walking out I heard one guy say, "Isn't Carol Danvers in DC?" and saw him searching on his phone. He meant Linda Danvers, who is Supergirl, so he was close.

But not as close as me!
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The in-universe reason Fury *has* kept his Carol Danvers space pager (love that the display graphic is 90s vintage) in his back pocket through a couple of alien invasions ought to be a good one. I've learned not to doubt Marvel on making these things work, though. Hoping also their crazy good ability to distill and improve characters gets Carol her due after she's been mishandled on the page for so long.

It is something to see that the MCU Spidey has so thoroughly eclipsed the previous versions in such a short time. Even while not being a strictly traditional Spider-Man, they've kind of perfected him in the writing and performance.

He may have the funniest bit in the movie for me:

"Is it still the greatest movie of all time?!"

"It never was."

Holland's deadpan tone, and I even think it's delivered off-screen, killied me.

Banner's "Oh, you guys are so screwed now" when Thor appears is probably runner up. Again, it's mostly in the delivery.
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"Benefits of a pager

On the flipside, pagers offer several key benefits: Reliable networks, ensuring transmission of messages even in emergencies. Strong signals: cell sites might cover 10-15 miles, while a pager transmitter can cover 150 miles, enabling communication in rugged and rural locations."
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I had an absolute blast. I think the time for ranking and determining how this stands in the scheme of things will come later. What's centrally important this weekend is that it was the most thrilling big studio franchise picture I've seen since, well, probably the original Avengers. I'm sure the crowd played a large role, as opening night MCU crowds are wont to do, but the end result is that I feel like I just spent the night at a terrific party where everyone had a lot of fun and then at the end, a pleasantly cathartic shock. As an event, they nailed it.

I often feel like 'one for the fans' is a pejorative, but that's what this felt like, and so much the better for it.

My MVP was Strange, I utterly delighted by this characterization. His whole thing is great. I was pleased to see how deftly they handled the Guardians too. Gamora has never been so useful. But really, everyone involved is just plain killing it, and I enjoy spending time with all of them.

Needed more Ebony Maw. That guy was freaky as hell. Could have held up as a headliner villain. And the big NY action sequence at the beginning was probably my favorite one. Wong saving Tony Stark's life! Hulk can't get it up! Squidward jokes!
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You guys are dead on about Strange. I’m rewatching his movie now. I can’t get enough of the wacky ideas behind the magic and how confident he is in the face of such insurmountable odds. I should probably seek out some of his books.
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Part of me wants them to keep ALL the dead characters dead. It would be SO ballsy for a movie of this sort to do something like that.

Black Panther 2 could be about Shuri having to become the new Black Panther. Spiderman 2 could be about Miles Morales. Iron Man can join the Guardians for a while like he did in the comics, and they can rebuild that team as they seek out where Thanos and the gems are.

It's only Doctor Strange that makes doing that difficult. I admit: Doctor Strange is my favorite of all these MCU films and the character is the most enjoyable to me in every film he pops up in. While I'm not opposed to Wong taking up the mantle of Sorcerer Supreme, I know that would never fly with audiences. We need Stephen Strange back ASAP.


I think someone mentioned it a few pages back, but DID Bucky's arm dust out with the rest of him? Rocket DID take an interest in it and joked about how he'd get his hands on it eventually...... and the poor fella is really going to need something to lift his spirits after his ENTIRE FUCKING TEAM got greased!
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If this was the comics, there'd be a year or two of storylines with legacy characters, then the originals would return. Since the MCU has never really taken advantage of its supplements, namely television shows, to fill in the in-between stuff, we won't get anything like that.

Although...I am curious...and it would be cool...if Miles Morales showed up as Spider-Man in Avengers 4 and then Homecoming 2 (or whatever) would be about them fighting over the role.

But I doubt that happens.
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“So I learned that Thanos would literally harass one human on their birthday every year and this has boosted him on my villain rankings”

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Spider-Man: Trademark War.

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(04-28-2018, 12:29 PM)shaunh Wrote: “So I learned that Thanos would literally harass one human on their birthday every year and this has boosted him on my villain rankings”

https://twitter.com/theredkirby/status/9...80800?s=21

Well, I think we've discovered the plot of Avengers 4.
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(04-28-2018, 12:07 PM)bartleby_scriven Wrote: I'm kind of disappointed there aren't any hot takes out there for Infinity War, at least not that I've found yet. Ragnarok had the whole bit about colonialism, Black Panther was whether or not it's alt-right. I guess Infinity War doesn't have enough going on under the hood to be problematic.

You know my favorite thing is exploring themes, but all I've got with this one is the role of fathers, bringing Thanos in line with Abraham sacrificing Isaac (except he actually does it!), and the price of a life versus another.

Thanos is an environmentalist from the Paul Ehrlich school of thought.

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(04-28-2018, 12:35 PM)shan Wrote:
(04-28-2018, 12:07 PM)bartleby_scriven Wrote: I'm kind of disappointed there aren't any hot takes out there for Infinity War, at least not that I've found yet. Ragnarok had the whole bit about colonialism, Black Panther was whether or not it's alt-right. I guess Infinity War doesn't have enough going on under the hood to be problematic.

You know my favorite thing is exploring themes, but all I've got with this one is the role of fathers, bringing Thanos in line with Abraham sacrificing Isaac (except he actually does it!), and the price of a life versus another.

Thanos is an environmentalist from the Paul Ehrlich school of thought.

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Yeah, or Malthus (which could pass as a Marvel villain name, come to think of it).
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(04-28-2018, 12:43 PM)slim Wrote:
(04-28-2018, 12:35 PM)shan Wrote:
(04-28-2018, 12:07 PM)bartleby_scriven Wrote: I'm kind of disappointed there aren't any hot takes out there for Infinity War, at least not that I've found yet. Ragnarok had the whole bit about colonialism, Black Panther was whether or not it's alt-right. I guess Infinity War doesn't have enough going on under the hood to be problematic.

You know my favorite thing is exploring themes, but all I've got with this one is the role of fathers, bringing Thanos in line with Abraham sacrificing Isaac (except he actually does it!), and the price of a life versus another.

Thanos is an environmentalist from the Paul Ehrlich school of thought.

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Yeah, or Malthus (which could pass as a Marvel villain name, come to think of it).

Better than some of the others that featured in Infinity Gauntlet, that's for sure.

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(04-28-2018, 11:00 AM)slim Wrote: The in-universe reason Fury *has* kept his Carol Danvers space pager (love that the display graphic is 90s vintage) in his back pocket through a couple of alien invasions ought to be a good one. I've learned not to doubt Marvel on making these things work, though.
Yeah, it will be interesting to see how CAPTAIN MARVEL sets up where Carol has been since the 1990s, and why we haven't seen her yet if Nick Fury has a dedicated hotline to communicate with her.

(04-28-2018, 11:14 AM)bartleby_scriven Wrote: A dying Peter saying "sorry" to Tony is maybe the most Spider-Man moment ever. Always weighed with guilt, even at the end.
Totally.  The idea that he died feeling like he let Tony down is heartbreaking in the best way.  With the way he always calls him "Mr. Stark," you can see how much he idolizes and respects Tony, and those final seconds are a real gut punch (even if we know he's coming back eventually).

(04-28-2018, 11:19 AM)arjen rudd Wrote: My MVP was Strange, I utterly delighted by this characterization. His whole thing is great.
(04-28-2018, 12:12 PM)shaunh Wrote: You guys are dead on about Strange. I’m rewatching his movie now. I can’t get enough of the wacky ideas behind the magic and how confident he is in the face of such insurmountable odds. I should probably seek out some of his books.
I was already fully on board with Strange after his own movie, but I was really impressed with how they very quickly established the dynamic he has with Tony.  The poorly-written version of this movie would have had likely had these two snarky and sarcastic guys portrayed as too-similar, but the actual film really makes them feel distinct.  I particularly like that it's not an instant love-fest or bonding; their personalities are not immediately compatible, and that makes for fun interaction.
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That, and Strange isn't a slave to his fear/anxiety.

Tony's struggle with (what I consider to be) his anxiety disorder after the trauma of New York has been his driving force. Strange is much more centered. I love the juxtaposition.
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(04-28-2018, 11:00 AM)slim Wrote: It is something to see that the MCU Spidey has so thoroughly eclipsed the previous versions in such a short time. Even while not being a strictly traditional Spider-Man, they've kind of perfected him in the writing and performance.

Holland has really nailed that character's wide-eyed enthusiasm. And, for the second time in a row, he nailed the emotional core of that character in a way that really touched me. He did it first in Homecoming when he's trying to get out from beneath the rubble, and he did it again here when he started fading away; falling into Stark's arms whilst expressing how much he didn't want to die.

One of the many benefits of the shared MCU is Stark as his substitute father-figure. It's surprisingly effective (at least to me).

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I know the next movie will be more concerned with Tony and Steve (or at least it better be!), but I hope we get a little bit more of Tony and Strange before RDJ hangs it up.
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(04-28-2018, 12:17 PM)Anjin Wrote: I think someone mentioned it a few pages back, but DID Bucky's arm dust out with the rest of him?  Rocket DID take an interest in it and joked about how he'd get his hands on it eventually...... and the poor fella is really going to need something to lift his spirits after his ENTIRE FUCKING TEAM got greased!

I posted that to poke fun at silly TLJ criticisms.

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Damn, I knew the voice at the beginning making the Asgardian SOS broadcast was familiar, but it was Branagh? That's nifty.

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(04-28-2018, 12:35 PM)shan Wrote:
(04-28-2018, 12:07 PM)bartleby_scriven Wrote: I'm kind of disappointed there aren't any hot takes out there for Infinity War, at least not that I've found yet. Ragnarok had the whole bit about colonialism, Black Panther was whether or not it's alt-right. I guess Infinity War doesn't have enough going on under the hood to be problematic.

You know my favorite thing is exploring themes, but all I've got with this one is the role of fathers, bringing Thanos in line with Abraham sacrificing Isaac (except he actually does it!), and the price of a life versus another.

Thanos is an environmentalist from the Paul Ehrlich school of thought.

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He's the Robert Peck of the MCU!!!FACT!!!
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Well, I loved it, but that's no surprise. I've had almost as much fun reading all your comments.

My highlights would be:

Mantis. From the get go, when Starlord tells everyone to get their scary faces on, she she does one and it was just hilarious. And, of course "Kicking names...and taking ass." Strong second among the Guardians is Drax, (An hour) but I did realize that he and Mantis both have this literal thingy going on, but it doesn't appear to be too much to me yet.

Spider-Man. Everything he said and did. It was like the comics version has finally been done perfectly. Many of you have mentioned his death scene and being heart breaking and it was, but I also loved how he played the emotions going thru his mind when Tony said "Welcome to the Avengers". He looked like he wanted to celebrate, but he also seemed to get the importance of it.

Speaking of Tony, his and Strange's relationship thru out the movie.

Doctor Strange. Sufficiently powerful enough to be the Sorcerer Supreme. The Red Bands of whatchamacallthem was great to see on screen. I agree with whoever said I kinda missed him calling his spells out loud like he does in the comics. He absolutely gave up his stone because of the one time he saw (out of 14 million?!) when they won. I am looking forward to how that plays out.

When Cap and the rest came to save the Vision and Scarlet Witch. Just an amazing fight scene.

Thor and Rocket Rabbit worked really well together.

And Thanos, of course. When he was explaining his motivations he almost had me convinced. I'm not sure that I really buy his "love" for Gamora, but if there's one thing I've learned in my 52 years, it's that love can be very complicated and sometimes seems insane even for mere earthlings. I imagine you throw in alien Demi-gods and it get even wonkier.

I probably missed some stuff, but I had a really good time with this.
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lol I just remembered how funny Drax is in this. “It’s like an angel and a pirate had a baby”

Also his thing about being still.
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Really impressed. Quite a few little details I feel like I should mention, but no doubt someone already has in the thread. I was surprised at how excited I was for this film, and pleased at how rewarding it was to watch. It felt tremendously comic book-y, in all the right ways, and it worked as a continuation of the last ten years of Marvel films.

It lives and dies on whether Thanos works. And he really worked for me. I'm very much looking forward to a second viewing.
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