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HIGH SCHOOL MOVIE KNOCKOUT
You say that like someone who hasn't seen DEAD POETS SOCIETY in a while.

That movie's ultimate message is "The institutions you believe in, and even your friends, are cruel, unfeeling, and they will betray you. What matters is holding fast to what you believe to be right. If you have that, they can't take it away."

That's about as hard a truth as you can get. But it's not gritty, so I can see why you'd dismiss it as "shit."

(And that's not even getting into that a major setpiece in Graffiti does, in fact, take place at a school. But like the man said, make me wanna holla...)
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+ Heathers
- Risky Business

6 Dazed And Confused
8 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
5 Grease
6 Heathers
5 If...
6 Lady Bird
1 Risky Business
6 Valley Girl

Demanding a recount:

09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
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DAZED also leaves the school behind as a setting early on, but you'd have a hard time arguing that it's not a quintessential high school movie. Everything that happens is based around the social dynamics set by the school year and standings; who is a freshman, who is a senior, who is on the team and so forth absolutely define everything that happens off campus.

RISKY's premise seems much further removed from the actual school dynamic, but I can't speak on how it plays in the execution.
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FRI 2nd:

+ 1 Heathers
KO Risky Business


6 Dazed And Confused
8 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
5 Grease
7 Heathers
5 If...
6 Lady Bird
6 Valley Girl

That's life!:

08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
Giving money to the studio that keeps enabling Adam Sandler is morally equivalent to Satanic kitten rape orgies. - Hypnotoad
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"So, how're we doin'?"

"Looks like University of Illinois!"


[Image: tenor.gif?itemid=8010229]

"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





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Saturday 1

Grease +1
If -1

6 Dazed And Confused
8 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
6 Grease
7 Heathers
4 If...
6 Lady Bird
6 Valley Girl

That's life!:

08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
"I'm not a smart man" -F. Gump
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Saturday 1

Heathers +1
Lady Bird -1

6 Dazed And Confused
8 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
6 Grease
8 Heathers
4 If...
5 Lady Bird
6 Valley Girl

That's life!:

08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
Giving money to the studio that keeps enabling Adam Sandler is morally equivalent to Satanic kitten rape orgies. - Hypnotoad
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1

VG +

IF -


6 Dazed And Confused
8 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
6 Grease
8 Heathers
3 If...
5 Lady Bird
7 Valley Girl

That's life!:

08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical

"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





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Grease +1
IF -1


6 Dazed And Confused
8 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
7 Grease
8 Heathers
2 If...
5 Lady Bird
7 Valley Girl

That's life!:

08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
"I'm not a smart man" -F. Gump
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SAT 1

+ Lady Bird
- Grease

6 Dazed And Confused
8 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
6 Grease
8 Heathers
2 If...
6 Lady Bird
7 Valley Girl

That's life!:

08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
home taping is killing music
Reply
2

VG +

IF -



6 Dazed And Confused
8 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
6 Grease
8 Heathers
1 If...
6 Lady Bird
8 Valley Girl

That's life!:

08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical

"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





Reply
SAT 2:

+1 Fast Times
KO If.....


6 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
6 Grease
8 Heathers
6 Lady Bird
8 Valley Girl

...Not

07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
Giving money to the studio that keeps enabling Adam Sandler is morally equivalent to Satanic kitten rape orgies. - Hypnotoad
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3

VG +

LADY -


6 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
6 Grease
8 Heathers
5 Lady Bird
9 Valley Girl

...Not

07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical

"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





Reply
SAT 3:

+1 Heathers
-1 Grease

6 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
5 Grease
9 Heathers
5 Lady Bird
9 Valley Girl

...Not

07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
Giving money to the studio that keeps enabling Adam Sandler is morally equivalent to Satanic kitten rape orgies. - Hypnotoad
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2

+ Lady Bird
- Valley

6 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
5 Grease
9 Heathers
6 Lady Bird
8 Valley Girl

...Not

07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
home taping is killing music
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Sat 3

Grease +1
Dazed and Confused -1

5 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
6 Grease
9 Heathers
6 Lady Bird
8 Valley Girl

...Not

07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
"I'm not a smart man" -F. Gump
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1

VG +

LADY -



5 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
6 Grease
9 Heathers
5 Lady Bird
9 Valley Girl

...Not

07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical

"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





Reply
Sun 1

Grease +1
Lady -1



5 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
7 Grease
9 Heathers
4 Lady Bird
9 Valley Girl

...Not

07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
"I'm not a smart man" -F. Gump
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2

VG +

LADY -




5 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
7 Grease
9 Heathers
3 Lady Bird
10 Valley Girl

...Not

07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical

"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





Reply
Sun 2

Grease +1
LADY -1

5 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
8 Grease
9 Heathers
2 Lady Bird
10 Valley Girl

...Not

07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
"I'm not a smart man" -F. Gump
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SUN 1:

+1 Heathers
-1 Lady Bird

5 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
8 Grease
10 Heathers
1 Lady Bird
10 Valley Girl

...Not

07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
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SUN 3:

Grease +1
KO Lady Bird

5 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
9 Grease
10 Heathers
10 Valley Girl

Jumped out of a moving car

06. Lady Bird
07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
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Valley Girl over Lady Bird? Bullshit. Absolute fucking bullshit.

But I'm sure it's because it's too soon to tell, or historical value, or "authenticity" or some crap like that. Never mind that every single one of those reasons could be applied to much lower ranked movies.
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Totally valid. Like, totally.

But seriously, Lady Bird will be given a proper fight about fifteen years from now. Sadly, 2019 is just not the time.
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That being said, I downvote purely out of the fact that it is in nowhere near the league of the rest. When you talk about iconic, generation defining teen movies, when was the last time you heard someone bring up fucking VALLEY GIRL?

+ Dazed
- Valley

7 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
9 Grease
10 Heathers
8 Valley Girl

Jumped out of a moving car

06. Lady Bird
07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
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+ Dazed
- Valley

8 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
9 Grease
10 Heathers
7 Valley Girl

Jumped out of a moving car

06. Lady Bird
07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
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My holy trinity teen movies: FAST TIMES, RISKY + VALLEY.

Boone, if you had people in your circle a little bit older, you'd know it has a strong reputation. I know women who LOVE the film and the central love story. I had a relationship along time ago where it was 'our movie'. Watch it with someone you love and see how well it plays.

It's like SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER in that it's of its time, but has aged in a way that that's no longer distracting.

Martha Coolidge, so underrated.

In conclusion, it totally rules.

3

VG +

GREASE -

8 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
8 Grease
10 Heathers
8 Valley Girl

Jumped out of a moving car

06. Lady Bird
07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical



For the fans, this is interesting:

(Boone, don't hold Kevin Smith against it!)




"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





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Quote:Boone, if you had people in your circle a little bit older, you'd know it has a strong reputation. I know women who LOVE the film and the central love story. I had a relationship along time ago where it was 'our movie'. Watch it with someone you love and see how well it plays.

Sure. You know absolutely nothing about "my circle", but sure, be condescending. Again.

Stop attacking the fucking person because you think they're some punk millennial and attack the fucking argument. Jesus fucking christ.
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Boone, he made an argument about the movie. Stop projecting so much of your personal animosity into every single post.

+ Dazed And Confused
- Valley Girl

9 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
8 Grease
10 Heathers
7 Valley Girl

Jumped out of a moving car

06. Lady Bird
07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
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An argument about the movie would be "It's popular among Generation X for reasons, X, Y, and Z." Not "If you hung around older people, you'd know," which makes an assumption about my knowledge, and Elvis' ongoing belief that I don't know anything because I don't agree with him on everything.

In fact, I am well aware of VALLEY GIRL's status among Gen Xers as a beloved picture, particularly among women. However, my argument is that it seems to have not a lot of cross-generational appeal and has stayed mainly a cult item among "older people." Whereas DAZED, FAST TIMES, GREASE, and HEATHERS have all managed to find new audiences as the years have gone on - GREASE, HEATHERS, and DAZED in particular have moved from Gen X to Millennials to Gen Y. (GREASE has also gone from Boomer nostalgia to Gen X nostalgia to Millennial nostalgia), and although FAST TIMES is probably the least well regarded to contemporary audiences, it's still a top 3-5 depending on what list you're making.

And when I think when you're talking about the teen movie - again, a subject that I think a lot of people take personally - that kind of cross-generational appeal is important.

So that's my argument, an argument I made without telling Elvis "if he had people in his circle a little bit younger."

+ Dazed
- Valley

10 Dazed And Confused
9 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
8 Grease
10 Heathers
6 Valley Girl

Jumped out of a moving car

06. Lady Bird
07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
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For what it’s worth, I’m in the Gen-X demo and in my circle of film lovers Valley Girl probably wouldn’t rank in the top 20-25 best high school films ever. I’m assuming a little here because the film is never discussed. Its just kinda a film that’s time came and went. It’s fine but it’s nothing special.

Is this anecdotal evidence? Sure. But it’s no less definitive than any other opinion I’ve seen. That being said, I’m pretty sure adding a few older folks to the sample size still won’t guarantee a greater appreciation for Valley Girl.
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This thread got all warm and fuzzy!

+ Ridgemont
- Grease

10 Dazed And Confused
10 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
7 Grease
10 Heathers
6 Valley Girl

Jumped out of a moving car

06. Lady Bird
07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical

Wait, we have a top five! Why is there still voting?
If you're happy, you're not paying attention.

Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny: 
Glad that you guys worked that out amongst yourselves.

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SUN 2:

+1 Heathers
-1 Grease

10 Dazed And Confused
10 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
6 Grease
11 Heathers
6 Valley Girl

Jumped out of a moving car

06. Lady Bird
07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
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MON 1:

Grease +1
Valley Girl-1

10 Dazed And Confused
10 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
7 Grease
11 Heathers
5 Valley Girl

Jumped out of a moving car

06. Lady Bird
07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
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MON 1:

+1 Heathers
-1 Dazed And Confused


9 Dazed And Confused
10 Fast Times At Ridgemont High
7 Grease
12 Heathers
5 Valley Girl

Jumped out of a moving car

06. Lady Bird
07. If...
08. Risky Business
09. Election
10. American Graffiti
11. My Bodyguard
12. Ghost World
13. Carrie
14. Say Anything
15. Bring It On
16. The Breakfast Club
17. Rock N' Roll High School
18. Mean Girls
19. Edge Of Seventeen
20. Better off Dead
21. Lucas
22. The Last American Virgin
23. Rushmore
24. Clueless
25. School Ties
26. Dope
27. Three O'Clock High
28. Easy A
29. The Hate U Give
30. Dead Poets Society
31. Juno
32. Friday Night Lights
33. Me and Earl and the Dying Girl
34. The Girl Next Door
35. Pretty in Pink
36, Ten Things I Hate About You
37. Varsity Blues
38. Sixteen Candles
39. Rebel Without a Cause
40. Twenty-One Jump Street
41. Not Another Teen Movie
42. American Pie
43. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
44. Napolean Dynamite
45. Can't Hardly Wait
46. She's All That
47. Porkys
48. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
49. Superbad
50. High School Musical
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