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The 2019 Oscar Season (Brought To You By Boone, Sponsored By A24)
he's great in gladiator

it's the role that made him a MOVIE STAR
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Jesus...GLADIATOR was 20 years ago. 20 YEARS. Where does the time go?
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(01-09-2020, 01:25 PM)Nooj Wrote: russell crowe winning for gladiator when it was really for THE INSIDER

This is a "Make Up/Our Bad Oscar," where an actor wins for a different, often considered "lesser," performance, but it's really for an Oscar they didn't win or weren't nominated for anywhere from a year to two years before.

See also: Jeremy Irons winning for REVERSAL OF FORTUNE, when it was really for DEAD RINGERS, Denzel winning for TRAINING DAY when it was really for THE HURRICANE
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Tommy Lee Jones winning for The Fugitive, not that he wasn't great in it, but when it was really for Under Siege.

Kate Winslet winning for The Reader in a year when she really really wanted to win for Revolutionary Road. Seriously, she looked so bummed out.
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Let's not downplay the influence of just how huge Gladiator was. It was a big commercial hit that turned Crowe into a full-blown movie star. His only real competition that year was Tom Hanks for Cast Away and the feeling was "He already has two and Forrest Gump was only four years ago!"

The Insider was little seen (All the talk that awards season was about Denzel v. Spacey) and L.A. Confidential was an ensemble piece with Kim Basinger basking in the awards-love that year, rightfully so.

The real ending to Big...
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GLADIATOR holds up, too. I know quite a few people who still absolutely love the film, with one coworker still citing it as his favorite movie ever. The shine of the film has worn off for me but I still like it.
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It was also the return of the big sweeping sword and sandal picture. There hadn't really been a huge one like that in quite some time. The older Academy folks loved that.
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I picked up the 4K of Gladiator this year, because I picked up a lot of 4Ks this year, and was surprised how much I loved it all over again. If you think of it as less a prestige Best Picture winner and more an earnest historical action spectacle, it’s outrageously successful, and it’s no wonder it was such a hit.
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It’s way high on my favorites from Ridley. Saw it again within the last couple years. Holds up fantastic.
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I've said before it gets under-recognized how influential Gladiator was. It set the template for historical action epics for years to come, and it was an early example of the muted/tinted colour-grading that was (and to a certain extent still is) everywhere in the 00's, and the music was ripped off by all and sundry as well. Even now it doesn't feel especially dated I don't think.
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I remember when GLADIATOR came out it was basically marketed as an epic summer blockbuster, as opposed to a prestige film that had its sights on Oscar statues. Just to really drive home that idea, one of its ads on TV had a Kid Rock song playing. Then comes the awards ceremony and it wins Best Picture, from then on people perceived the film very differently and not for the better.
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Are you not entertained?!
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I still think a historically accurate depiction of Commodus' circus would be vastly more outrageous, horrific, and entertaining.
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Just remake Caligula. Oscar gold!
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(01-10-2020, 06:58 AM)arjen rudd Wrote: Just remake Caligula. Oscar gold!

There was a guy working on completely re-assembling the original cut of the film that Tinto Brass was putting together before Bob Guccione took it over and inserted his pornographic scenes.  Through the last owner of Penthouse, this guy had access to literally everything that was filmed for the movie, including the first 80 or so minutes of the film (in black and white) that had been edited by Brass before he left.  If memory serves, he was going to redo the first 80s minutes using the color footage and then assemble the rest of the film using Brass' notes.

I'm not sure on the status of this effort.  From what I understand, Penthouse went through bankruptcy recently and it's possible that this re-assembly has been completely scuttled.
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Doesn’t Gladiator owe it’s existence somewhat to Braveheart? Still waiting on that Hannibal movie Vinny D
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(01-10-2020, 01:09 PM)Munson Wrote: Doesn’t Gladiator owe it’s existence somewhat to Braveheart? Still waiting on that Hannibal movie Vinny D

I think it's entirely possible Gladiator would/could have gotten made on its own merits, but I think Braveheart probably paved the way for it a bit. (Just as Dances With Wolves probably helped pave the way for Gibson to make Braveheart.)

Not a giant fan of any of those films, but I'll take Braveheart's battle scenes over Gladiator's.
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Guess I’m watching Gladiator again soon.

I can’t promise it won’t be the Rowdy Herrington one.
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(01-10-2020, 01:19 PM)bailey Wrote: Not a giant fan of any of those films, but I'll take Braveheart's battle scenes over Gladiator's.

The battle of Stirling in the film is incredible.  The real sense of bloody carnage and chaos depicted in that sequence is simply astonishing, and I think that the way that that battle was filmed has had a tremendous impact on how battle sequences have been depicted ever since.  

I'd still like to see the cut footage from BRAVEHEART.  I remember hearing or reading that the film was a lot more brutal and bloody than it ended up being.
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More bloody and brutal? Jeez Mel

On the other hand I watched Gladiator a few weeks ago and was surprised how non bloody the opening against ze Germans was. I misremembered way more carnage.
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Welp, UNCUT GEMS was completely shut out...not a surprise, but still pretty lame.

Most egregious snub: APOLLO 11 not being nominated for Best Documentary.
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11 noms for Joker seems excessive.

Also, are you a white male of a certain age? Then you probably got nominated!
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Christian Bale got robbed. Leo was really good in OUATIH, but ehhhhh that's Pitt's movie.

Maleficent got a nom for Best Hair and Makeup. The movie with the CGI cheekbones as it's most prominent feature.
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No J-Lo! No peace!
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Almost completely screwing A24, one of the rare studios actually able to get people to go to the movies for original films, a year after Spielberg complained very publicly about Netflix...seems unwise.

That said: FLOOOOOOOOORRREEENNNNCEEE PUUUUUUGGGGHHHHH
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If Juakeen wins Best Actor, his ego could inflate to catastrophic levels. He'll end up trying to become a rapper, and have Casey Affleck film a documentary about it.
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Bale got robbed.

That said, FvF did exactly as I expected otherwise.  I hope it takes home those sound awards because it sure deserves them.
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Yes, Christian Bale, one of the most nominated actors of his generation and Oscar winner, got robbed. That tracks.
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(01-13-2020, 09:46 AM)Mangy Wrote: Welp, UNCUT GEMS was completely shut out...not a surprise, but still pretty lame.

Did UNCUT GEMS have Sandler in a purple suit and white pancake? Well, then.
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(01-13-2020, 10:51 AM)boone daniels Wrote: Yes, Christian Bale, one of the most nominated actors of his generation and Oscar winner, got robbed. That tracks.

Not sure if you saw FvF or not.  He's amazing in it, arguably better than he was in THE FIGHTER.
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I thought Bale was fine in FvF, but I don't feel he was robbed. I'm surprised the movie got a Best Pic nom at all. It's a perfectly fine crowd pleaser of a movie, but no where near the other noms (haven't seen LITTLE WOMEN yet). Except JOKER, which its accolades still baffle me.
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I haven't seen TWO POPES or BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD yet, but Pesci/Pacino/Pitt all HAD to be nominated.

I wish DeNiro and Sandler had been nominated for Actor.
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"Robbed" is perhaps a harsh word, but I'm very disappointed Bale didn't get into the mix. That's probably my favorite performance of his, ever.

Good to see Pesci and THE LIGHTHOUSE's cinematography get in.

And, obviously, John Williams is deservedly in play. But Disney, so far, is utterly failing to craft the right narrative for him and the award is likely to go to JOKER, unfortunately.
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Films unseen, it’s nice that Banderas and Pryce have Oscar noms now. And good for Williams that he got the set of noms for the trilogy.
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11 noms for the aggressively OK, maybe even slightly bad Joker?
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