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The Nightmare On Elm Street Series

El Rey's doing a "Nightmare on Elm Street Before Christmas" marathon this weekend, FYI.

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New Yorkers, Quad Cinema is playing Wes Craven's New Nightmare in 35mm tomorrow night:



https://quadcinema.com/film/wes-cravens-new-nightmare/

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If a remake needs to be made, I say give it the Netflix/Hulu/Amazon treatment and make it a series, like Stranger Things. Get some actual talent involved. Really open up the mythos, maybe even expand to include Jason on special occasions. Have Pinhead pop up in a season arc. Cross over with Ash vs Evil Dead. Why not? With a dream world aspect to your show, there's not much you can't do with it.

I'd even be open to letting Jackie Earle Haley come back. There's a lot wrong with that last remake... he wasn't one of them. Though if Englund was in any shape to do it that would be a joy to behold.

You never know.. someone in Hollywood must have at least considered it at some point.
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I’d say just pull a Jaws, keep the guy in the background, add some super grisly murders and call it a day.
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Well, I've been around for a long time and somehow never stumbled into this thread. I have a day off tomorrow, I think I'm going to go back through some of it.

I was a Freddy nut back around the time part 3 came out. Saw all of them in the theater from 4 onward. My poor dad has no stomach for horror, and though I consider Elm St flicks kind of lightweight, the gore shots made him turn grey. As an adult he's confessed that he was trying to be "manly" as an example to his boy .. he wanted to throw up and was holding it back. My dad worked almost all the time before moving out in a divorce. I didn't get to build many memories with him until I grew up. Him taking me to Freddy movies (and wrestling) are among the very few. So, yeah... this series kind of has a lot of sentimental value for me.

Rewatching them now, obviously the original stands above the rest. I personally prefer Dream Warriors over all of them, but hold part 4 as a guilty pleasure, I love the different take with New Nightmare. Never liked 2 that much, but it holds up far better today than 4-6.

Freddy's Dead is bad, no doubt.. but it's the kind of bad that's still fun to watch. There's some merit to the cartoon, Bugs Bunny nature of it. I mean, fuckin' Rosanne and Tom Arnold were in it. And Yaphet Kotto! It also has the added sentimental value of being the movie I took my first date on. Date was awkward as fuck, but we dated anyway. The 3d was balls.

I've always hated 5. I never re-watch it. A few good fx shots, like the motorcycle kill, but definitely my least favorite.

And boy did I ever crush so hard on Lagencamp. I watched that piece of shit Just the 10 of Us show for her (liked the redhead too, who popped up in 4 as the cockroach kill)


Sorry for that stream of consciousness, post glass of wine post. I look forward to going back and seeing some of the discussions I've missed here.
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A little more coherent now, and I've scanned a few pages of this thread. Man, the memories!

I actually owned that Freddy music CD. I even recorded the Fat Boys "Ready for Freddy" music video off of MTV back in the day.

I don't remember much of Freddy's Nightmares aside from the two part opener that covered Freddy's origins. I'd love to track those down, at least. I'm sure they're on some torrent site somewhere in potato quality.

Freddy vs Jason was fun enough to catch in the theater after over a decade of anticipation. (I saw Jason Goes to Hell in the theater and went INSANE when Freddy's glove shot up out of the dirt to grab the hockey mask!!!) ... but it felt like such a huge missed opportunity by the time the credits rolled.

Jason's afraid of water now? What the fuck? And that puss-out ending where neither really "wins", and the "normal people" are too involved. As far as I'm concerned, anyone in Freddy vs Jason that wasn't named Freddy or Jason should have been there for the sole purpose of being killed in interesting and unusual ways.
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(03-12-2018, 10:01 PM)Anjin Wrote: If a remake needs to be made, I say give it the Netflix/Hulu/Amazon treatment and make it a series, like Stranger Things. Get some actual talent involved. Really open up the mythos, maybe even expand to include Jason on special occasions. Have Pinhead pop up in a season arc. Cross over with Ash vs Evil Dead. Why not? With a dream world aspect to your show, there's not much you can't do with it.

I'd even be open to letting Jackie Earle Haley come back.  There's a lot wrong with that last remake... he wasn't one of them. Though if Englund was in any shape to do it that would be a joy to behold.

You never know.. someone in Hollywood must have at least considered it at some point.

If Chucky and Ash can get tv series, why the hell not Freddy right? Although I am struggling to come up with a way to make Freddy interesting again. Unless they drastically alter something, the concept is kind of stuck in a certain pattern for every movie (discover/tell who Kruger is, find out you can pull things from your dreams, get Freddy into the real world, etc) I would love for Peter Jackson's idea to be made into a series. Freddy is a decrepit joke with teens deliberately going into the dream world to kick his ass. Freddy has to work to be scary again and become a threat. It would be the Rocky Balboa of Elm Street movies.
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I think I'm going to start re-watching episodes of "Freddy's Nightmares."

It's been a long, long time outside of the short few I caught on the El Rey Network years back.
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I tried watching an episode once, but couldn't get past the super low-rent feel of the production quality. I finished the episode and never proceeded further.
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There is no question that calling Freddy's Nightmares "cheap" is like calling subatomic particles "portable," but in the right mood, that's the whole selling point.  Watching plucky, up-and-coming film makers trying to weave something out of a dollar ninety-five is its own kind of entertainment.

No idea why this show never turned up on Amazon Video or some other streaming service.  And I've also no idea why we still haven't gotten that SCREAM QUEEN documentary yet.
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I remember Tobe Hooper directed the pilot, which was Freddy's origin story. I have a decent recollection of that one.

Not sure if any other notable directors ever got involved with this series.
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That pilot is the only one I have a memory of, and I remember thinking it was pretty cool at the time.

I know I kept up with the show after that-- I believe it aired back-to-back with that weird "Friday the 13th" show where they hunted down supernatural antiques. But damned if I recall any specific stories beyond the Freddy origin.
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Yeah, that "origin of Freddy" episode is the one I watched.

It's been a long time, though, so maybe I'll eventually give it another shot.
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The pilot retcons the first movie.
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The pilot is 90% of what I recall from this show. After that, Freddy just played a crappier version of the Cryptkeeper hosting forgettable material. As a huge Elm St. dork back then though, I ate that shit up. Part of me wanted a callback to that pilot episode when they did flashbacks in Elm St 6.

I had that awful CD where Freddy sings. These were not proud years.

The mind boggles in hindsight that so much crap was marketed to kids... based on a character that molests kids. But I'm sure I'm hardly the first to notice that.
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I'm proud of Anjin for owning the Freddy CD.
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(02-12-2019, 10:21 PM)Anjin Wrote: The pilot is 90% of what I recall from this show. After that, Freddy just played a crappier version of the Cryptkeeper hosting forgettable material. As a huge Elm St. dork back then though, I ate that shit up. Part of me wanted a callback to that pilot episode when they did flashbacks in Elm St 6.

I had that awful CD where Freddy sings. These were not proud years.

The mind boggles in hindsight that so much crap was marketed to kids... based on a character that molests kids. But I'm sure I'm hardly the first to notice that.

But did you call that hotline number?
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Probably! Not that I remember anything from it.
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Did a tongue come out of the receiver?
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Well, that happens so often... how would I remember that specific time?
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(02-12-2019, 10:08 PM)bradito Wrote: The pilot retcons the first movie.

As I recall they have Freddy beat the charges because he wasn't read his Miranda rights, while in the movie it was because "somebody didn't sign the search warrant in the right place."  Neither do the circumstances of the ensuing vigilante justice quite square with Craven's version as I recall, but I'm not looking into it to remind myself of the specifics.

Still not as dumb as the flashbacks in FREDDY'S DEAD.
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It was just one of those things where I was like, "No one bothered to rewatch the first movie just to refresh their memory? It simply couldn't be done?"

And yes, "Freddy's Dead" does his origin no favors. I mean, I honestly like how the middle sequels keep piling additional layers onto his origin, but giving him a wife and a kid was too much.
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Is the technicality that gets Freddy off the hook the only difference? That doesn't seem super glaring to me.

I didn't know they added all that much more to Freddy's backstory (a wife and kid... jfc); I left the series with him simply being the bastard son of a hundred maniacs.
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I re-watched Elm St 3 not too long ago and I was thinking: This would make a good Netflix series.

Not the Elm St. series as a whole... but just adapting part 3. All those kids at the mental hospital being tormented and picked off, one by one? Put Darabont back on it and I think it'd work really well!
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Dammit, now I need to revisit the pilot episode to remind myself specifically how it offended me.

The production values were bargain basement, too, IIRC.
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Mark Patton's SCREAM QUEEN doc looks to be playing the festival circuit starting in April.  Hopefully that means us regular saps get thrown a VOD bone by the end of the year.

https://1428elm.com/2019/03/04/scream-el...screening/
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Good to hear it's still coming out in some form.
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I just rewatched Freddy vs Jason. That is one frustrating ass movie. It's like...50/50. Half of it is really pretty cool. Half of it is pandering to some sub Gump IQ, no taste morons. And it doesn't become the movie you WANT it to be until about an hour in. The amount of story they tried to give this thing is absurd. If there were ever a movie that would've worked BETTER with as little plot as possible, this is that movie.

Freddy is great. Because Robert Englund. And he really is as good as he's ever been.

Jason is kinda sucky. Imagine if it'd been more like that beast of a Jason from the 2009 film instead of lumbering, dumbass, Karloff Frankenstein after drinking an entire bottle of Delsym "duuuurrrrr" Jason. And the fear of water thing is the biggest cop out. Since when? Freddy wasn't afraid of fire so what'd it even matter?

I was riveted to find out if that Brittany Murphy clone was gonna find out her boyfriend was innocent and gonna get back together with him. Why was shit like that even in this?

There should've literally been dialogue like:
"We have to get Jason to fight Freddy because we KNOW Jason wins!"

"How do you know that?"

"Because Jason is in space in the next one...DUH!"*



*yes, I know it wasn't technically the next one..
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(03-12-2019, 08:41 AM)fatherdude Wrote: Mark Patton's SCREAM QUEEN doc looks to be playing the festival circuit starting in April.  Hopefully that means us regular saps get thrown a VOD bone by the end of the year.

https://1428elm.com/2019/03/04/scream-el...screening/

Had forgotten all about this.
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