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The Climate Change Thread
I guess the upside for this person is that the sky has a Trumpian, orange sheen to it:

https://twitter.com/MrOlmos/status/1304140865112162304

Quote:Oregon wildfires

   
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This is the saddest picture I've ever seen.
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Authorities say about 500,000 have been forced to evacuate due to Oregon wildfires —  roughly 10% of the state's population:

https://apnews.com/8e4e0818146a72c713de6...SocialFlow

Quote:Authorities in Oregon now say more than 500,000 people statewide have been forced to evacuate because of wildfires.

The latest figures from Thursday evening come from the Oregon Office of Emergency Management. That’s over 10% of the state’s 4.2 million population.

More than 1,400 square miles (3,625 square kilometers) have burned this week in the state. Authorities say the wildfire activity was particularly acute Thursday afternoon in northwestern Oregon as hot, windy conditions continued.

At a news conference Thursday, Gov. Kate Brown said there have been fatalities but the exact number is not yet known. There have been at least three reported fire deaths in the state.

All duing a pandemic...
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The sky isn't orange in LA, but it is smoky and hazy.  The light IS orangey though, which is creepy.  

The temperatures from last weekend went down a little bit thankfully.
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(09-10-2020, 12:05 AM)The Iron Maiden Wrote: I didn't have "Blade Runner sky" on my 2020 bingo card, but congrats to those who did:

https://twitter.com/jachristian/status/1...1986932737

 Drone footage + BR2049 music + horrific fires =



I used to be with "it", but then they changed what "it" was. Now, what I'm with isn't "it", and what's "it" seems weird and scary to me.   -Grandpa Simpson
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The sun is still a dull orange and too easy to look at this morning from Orange County.

   

   
If I could change to liquid, I'd fill the cracks and bend the rocks.
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Big Oil is in trouble, so the industry is demanding a trade deal that weakens Kenya’s rules on plastics and on imports of American trash:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/clima...trade.html

Quote:Confronting a climate crisis that threatens the fossil fuel industry, oil companies are racing to make more plastic. But they face two problems: Many markets are already awash with plastic, and few countries are willing to be dumping grounds for the world’s plastic waste.

The industry thinks it has found a solution to both problems in Africa.

According to documents reviewed by The New York Times, an industry group representing the world’s largest chemical makers and fossil fuel companies is lobbying to influence United States trade negotiations with Kenya, one of Africa’s biggest economies, to reverse its strict limits on plastics — including a tough plastic-bag ban. It is also pressing for Kenya to continue importing foreign plastic garbage, a practice it has pledged to limit.

Plastics makers are looking well beyond Kenya’s borders. “We anticipate that Kenya could serve in the future as a hub for supplying U.S.-made chemicals and plastics to other markets in Africa through this trade agreement,” Ed Brzytwa, the director of international trade for the American Chemistry Council, wrote in an April 28 letter to the Office of the United States Trade Representative.

The United States and Kenya are in the midst of trade negotiations and the Kenyan president, Uhuru Kenyatta, has made clear he is eager to strike a deal. But the behind-the-scenes lobbying by the petroleum companies has spread concern among environmental groups in Kenya and beyond that have been working to reduce both plastic use and waste.

Kenya, like many countries, has wrestled with the proliferation of plastic. It passed a stringent law against plastic bags in 2017, and last year was one of many nations around the world that signed on to a global agreement to stop importing plastic waste — a pact strongly opposed by the chemical industry.

The chemistry council’s plastics proposals would “inevitably mean more plastic and chemicals in the environment,” said Griffins Ochieng, executive director for the Centre for Environmental Justice and Development, a nonprofit group based in Nairobi that works on the problem of plastic waste in Kenya. “It’s shocking.”

The plastics proposal reflects an oil industry contemplating its inevitable decline as the world fights climate change. Profits are plunging amid the coronavirus pandemic, and the industry is fearful that climate change will force the world to retreat from burning fossil fuels. Producers are scrambling to find new uses for an oversupply of oil and gas. Wind and solar power are becoming increasingly affordable, and governments are weighing new policies to fight climate change by reducing the burning of fossil fuels.
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In January, Gov. Kate Brown proposed a wildfire management plan that would treat over 300K acres to prevent wildfire, mandate defensible space around homes, and update building codes.

Republicans killed the legislation with their walkout. 

Here's a January article about the proposed plan:

https://www.opb.org/news/article/kate-br...vshg-kMh9k
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(09-11-2020, 11:42 PM)Iron Maiden Wrote: In January, Gov. Kate Brown proposed a wildfire management plan that would treat over 300K acres to prevent wildfire, mandate defensible space around homes, and update building codes.

Republicans killed the legislation with their walkout. 

Here's a January article about the proposed plan:

https://www.opb.org/news/article/kate-br...vshg-kMh9k

That sucks, as expected from companies like that.  I've said before, they should be incentivized to be leading the charge away from oil and gas.  Instead of spending money on denial they should be granted tax breaks for funding research of alternative fuels and energy sources.  No subsidies though, only very specific incentivized tax breaks.  

Capitalism itself needs this level of balancing.  I'm not sure if capitalism can exist in the modern world without exploitation being built in to the equation.  If it isn't the customer being hoodwinked or shortchanged, then it's labor for almost any legit product.  So we should offer a similar tax incentive for goods produced in the USA.  And an even better one for keeping' it local.

Especially for iron and steel.  Can't buy that from China, it could contain lead.
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We fucked up terribly:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/world/wwf...%3A01%3A01

Quote:The world's wildlife populations have fallen by an average of 68% in just over four decades, with human consumption behind the devastating decline, the World Wildlife Fund warned in a new report released Wednesday.

The Living Planet Report 2020 assessed the population declines seen in more than 4,392 monitored species of mammals, birds, fish, reptiles and amphibians between 1970 and 2016.

The report says that the kinds of steep wildlife population decreases the Earth has seen in recent decades have not been seen for millions of years.

The regions of Latin America and the Caribbean are the world's worst-affected areas, with an average drop of 94%, the report said.

The conversion of grassland, savannah, forest and wetland habitats, the overexploitation of wildlife, the introduction of non-native species and climate change are the key drivers of the drop.
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I still freak out every so often about the loss of insects we’re experiencing.
If I could change to liquid, I'd fill the cracks and bend the rocks.
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(09-13-2020, 10:07 AM)turingmachine75 Wrote: I still freak out every so often about the loss of insects we’re experiencing.

Oh, yeah?

It appears life finds a way...

https://globalnews.ca/news/7326419/kille...ana-swarm/
...don't do it
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THAT’S NOT HELPING!
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...sorry, Doc...
...don't do it
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https://twitter.com/EricBlake12/status/1...7700654083

Quote:I cry uncle. 2020 please stop! Storms everywhere

   
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https://twitter.com/blkahn/status/1305505238338670593

Quote:Smoke from the West Coast fires extends 4,600 miles from Canada almost all the way to HAWAII

   
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A story like this one reminds me that, once again, liberals need to do a better job on messaging.  If an industry and politicians were fighting to cut 600 coal jobs, you'd know about it.  Republicans wouldn't let you forget it.  But what about an industry and politicians that cut 600 solar jobs?

Well, that's happened in Utah.  Where's the outrage, Democrats?

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/09/14/r...e-rooftop/

Quote:On Oct. 5, Utah’s Public Service Commission will begin hearings to determine exactly how much electricity generated from rooftop solar is worth (public comments are now being accepted), and you might be surprised at how far apart the opposing sides are on that question.

Under a 2017 agreement, Rocky Mountain Power set the price at an average of 9.2 cents per kilowatt hour — and those who already had solar panels will get that rate until 2032 or 2035, depending on when they put them in place.

But the utility says that’s too much and is asking the commission to set the rate it pays to homeowners much lower, an average of 1.5 cents per kilowatt hour, the amount it pays for wholesale electricity from large-scale projects.

“The price is the price,” said Spencer Hall, spokesman for Rocky Mountain Power. “All we’re saying is we think we should be able to pay customers that are generating [electricity] the value that the market is dictating.”

But rooftop solar advocates contend Rocky Mountain Power’s figure is far too low and doesn’t reflect the additional benefits of rooftop solar — like reduced pressure on the electrical grid and increased use of clean, renewable energy without the company having to invest in new projects.

The group Vote Solar did its own calculations and believes the actual value is 22.6 cents per kilowatt hour — nearly 15 times what Rocky Mountain Power is proposing.

The impact of such a low rate could be devastating on the rooftop solar industry in Utah, which according to testimony before the commission has already seen business suffer. New installations went from 4,140 in 2016 to 12,408 in 2017 before falling to 3,540 last year, according to the Utah Solar Energy Association.

The drop has cost more than 600 jobs. Tesla opted not to open a regional office in the state, and others have pulled out or essentially stopped selling residential solar.
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Also it appears to be in the shape of some sort of monster, possibly from another dimension.
“I call upon you to stop this musical now,” she said to the board. “You tear a community apart if you don’t.” -Prachi Ruina                                                            
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Kind of looks like a Xenomorph.
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I see a dolphin.
If I could change to liquid, I'd fill the cracks and bend the rocks.
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Oregon GOP state senator Fred Girod was one of 11 Republicans who made headlines when they walked out of the senate – some even leaving the state – so that a quorum could not be achieved for a climate change bill. 

Now, the wildfires have claimed his home:

https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-north...dfire.html

Quote:Fred Girod stood near the edge of a steep drop between what remained of his house and the Santiam River, grasping the destruction days after the Beachie Creek wildfire destroyed homes, businesses and landmarks along the canyon.

The walls of the one-story home had collapsed, leaving two stone columns and a chimney that rose out of the rubble. The heat and flames had twisted the frame of the deck where he would sit to watch bald eagles, ospreys and sunrises.

Girod, a 69-year-old state senator, made an impromptu trip Sunday into his sprawling district that includes many of the most hard-hit areas decimated by wildfires that have now burned more than 1 million acres across the state and killed at least 10 people.

“It hurts,” Girod said, hands in his dark denim jeans.

Girod had been turned away last week when he tried to reach his home near Mill City, population 1,900, one of the larger towns in the Santiam Canyon. But he was able to make it this day by heading north via Linn County.

“My job is to know what’s happening in the district,” Girod said. “I need to be able to assess the damage.”
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(09-14-2020, 03:02 PM)Iron Maiden Wrote: Kind of looks like a Xenomorph.

(09-14-2020, 08:29 PM)turingmachine75 Wrote: I see a dolphin.

If you combine them then you really have something there. Also I thought it could be a The Mist situation but I guess we would have heard of that by now.
“I call upon you to stop this musical now,” she said to the board. “You tear a community apart if you don’t.” -Prachi Ruina                                                            
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I did see someone online say "monkey on a tree branch," which seems like the best answer so far.
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Now I see a chameleon.
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https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/status...9776624641

Quote:When Sally makes landfall tomorrow, it will be 8th continental US (CONUS) named storm landfall of 2020.  This will be the most CONUS named storm landfalls on record through September 16 - prior record was 7 named storm landfalls set in 1916.
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Not necessarily climate change, but there’s going to be a 30 degree change in temp between now and noon here in OC/LA.
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ProPublica has a pretty neat rundown of how the country will be transformed by climate change through 2070. By neat, I mean 'informative, with lots of graphics' because its actually quite scary.

https://projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/
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(09-16-2020, 03:38 PM)fuzzy dunlop Wrote: ProPublica has a pretty neat rundown of how the country will be transformed by climate change through 2070.  By neat, I mean 'informative, with lots of graphics' because its actually quite scary.

https://projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/

So we are invading Canada before 2070. Good to know.
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