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#36

That's how President Keaton rolls, man.

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#37

This should give Ran Dog and Mr BananaGrabber some perspective!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DX4nsobHW8

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#38

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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post

This should give Ran Dog and Mr BananaGrabber some perspective!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DX4nsobHW8


Did the Parallax Corporation just tell me to assassinate a presidential candidate?

French reporter killed in Syria:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16516135

Both sides blaming the other.

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#39


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Did the Parallax Corporation just tell me to assassinate a presidential candidate?


I have the strangest urge to assassinate the Prime Minister Of Malaysia.

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#40


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I have the strangest urge to assassinate the Prime Minister Of Malaysia.

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No!  Don't kill the Micronesian dude!

New war, same as the old war: (Armenia vs. Azerbaijan) http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-16/azerbaijan-amassing-arms-for-possible-karabakh-war-aliyev-says.html

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#41

http://rt.com/news/iran-close-strait-hor...bargo-455/

A small part of me kind of hopes this happens.  As Ive mentioned on this forum once or twice in the past, realistically it will take something like this for us to get up off of our asses, combine military and civilian resources, and come up with a viable energy alternative.

The way exists, we just need the will.  $200/oil would probably nudge us in the right direction.

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#42

Now globalsecurity.org is down.  This is not helping my paranoia!

Some better confirmation would be good though, RIA Novosti predicts ware with Iran every other day.

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#43


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http://rt.com/news/iran-close-strait-hor...bargo-455/

A small part of me kind of hopes this happens.


 I do deeply agree that we need to get off our asses and solve our energy problems but this conflict needs to be avoided at all costs. One of the many shitty outcomes if Iran takes this action would be that  the hit to our economy could probably gurantee we end up with a President Ginrich or President Romney.

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#44

This cheery missive popped up on Bloomberg:

How Iran may Trigger Accidental Armageddon.

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#45


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This cheery missive popped up on Bloomberg:

How Iran may Trigger Accidental Armageddon.


I would take any opinion that Jeffery Goldberg offers up with a grain of salt seeing as he was quite the cheerleader for the invasion of Iraq.

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Except unlike Miller, who was forced to leave the New York Times over what she didand the NYT itself, which at least acknowledged some of the shoddy pro-war propaganda it churned out, Goldberg has never acknowledged his journalistic errors, expressed remorse for them, or paid any price at all.  To the contrary, as is true for most Iraq war propagandists, he thrived despite as a result of his sorry record in service of the war.  In 2007, David Bradley — the owner of The Atlantic and (in his own words) formerly “a neocon guy” who was “dead certain about the rightness” of invading Iraq  — lavished Goldberg with money and gifts, including ponies for Goldberg’s children, in order to lure him away from The New Yorker, where he had churned out most of his pre-war trash.

http://www.salon.com/2010/06/27/goldberg_7/

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#46

If I'm pro-war I get a pony?  I'm a republican now, see you guys later!

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#47

Heard this cheery story on NPR today:

http://www.npr.org/2012/01/30/146093304/...an-in-2012

Syria continues to dissolve too:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast...50974.html

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Syrian National Council rejects Moscow-brokered talks, saying president must first stand down, as fighting continues.

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#48

Oh look!  More war propaganda:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nati...story.html

Caveat: Its WaPo, and they'll run anything that includes "Iran" and "Attack"

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#49

US Freezes all Iranian assets under it's Jurisdiction:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-06...-bank.html

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#50

Israeli consulate cars bombed in Georgia and India, Iran blamed:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-17013987

The Syrian uprising is sparking violence in Lebanon:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast...10327.html

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#51

Syria begins shelling second city:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast...27154.html

Artillery in place for other assaults:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/lib.../syria.htm

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#52

Marie Colvin's death is brining greater focus on Syria:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/ne...-2012.html

Her last report is truly heartbreaking.

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#53

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion...48572.html

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#54


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http://rt.com/news/iran-close-strait-hor...bargo-455/

A small part of me kind of hopes this happens.  As Ive mentioned on this forum once or twice in the past, realistically it will take something like this for us to get up off of our asses, combine military and civilian resources, and come up with a viable energy alternative.

The way exists, we just need the will.  $200/oil would probably nudge us in the right direction.


If this or nuclear war in the meddle east happens, Coming up with a come up with a viable energy alternative will be the least of our worries. The fist question can the US EC and Chine get the situation under control before their strategic oil supplies run out, and their citizens start dieing. Two weeks after a g7 country oil supply is gone between 50% and 90% of their population will be dead. Many third world counties will be able to handle it better then the rich countries, but even they will be affected.


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#55


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If this or nuclear war in the meddle east happens, Coming up with a come up with a viable energy alternative will be the least of our worries. The fist question can the US EC and Chine get the situation under control before their strategic oil supplies run out, and their citizens start dieing. Two weeks after a g7 country oil supply is gone between 50% and 90% of their population will be dead. Many third world counties will be able to handle it better then the rich countries, but even they will be affected.


True, incapacitating the Strait would severely curtail supply, though not cause Armageddon.  Europe still has native production, as does North America and Asia.

But yeah, if a conflict went nuclear, we would all have other things to worry about, at least until we were flash-fried.

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#56

Sanctions will cut off all interbank trade with Iran tomorrow:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17390456

Three Carrier groups and a big Amphibious assault flotilla are now in the gulf.  There are more minesweepers en route.

That and the strong Israeli rhetoric about preventing Iran from getting the bomb?  I'll be surprised if there isn't another war this summer.

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#57

Yup. Sadly, we don't seem to be able to avoid that.

Our policy in the Middle East post-Ottoman collapse makes me so fucking angry. We just keep messing up, time and time again. There was literally no country more suited to be our ally in that region than Persia. With all this wealth of examples of failure, of what NOT to do, we ignore I can now safely assume we want to fuck up there. Plus as a Greek I carry a millenia old genetic disposition making me find Persian women super hot and stuff that make them opening up to the world more difficult make me angry.

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#58


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Yup. Sadly, we don't seem to be able to avoid that.

Our policy in the Middle East post-Ottoman collapse makes me so fucking angry. We just keep messing up, time and time again. There was literally no country more suited to be our ally in that region than Persia. With all this wealth of examples of failure, of what NOT to do, we ignore I can now safely assume we want to fuck up there. Plus as a Greek I carry a millenia old genetic disposition making me find Persian women super hot and stuff that make them opening up to the world more difficult make me angry.

+1

there was a good interview on the Daily Show with Trita Parsi...

(there's 2 parts)

National Iranian American Council President Trita Parsi explains how skepticism gets in the way of diplomatic negotiations between America and Iran.


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#59

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Yup. Sadly, we don't seem to be able to avoid that.

Our policy in the Middle East post-Ottoman collapse makes me so fucking angry. We just keep messing up, time and time again. There was literally no country more suited to be our ally in that region than Persia. With all this wealth of examples of failure, of what NOT to do, we ignore I can now safely assume we want to fuck up there. Plus as a Greek I carry a millenia old genetic disposition making me find Persian women super hot and stuff that make them opening up to the world more difficult make me angry.



Cognitive dissonance.  Saudi Arabia is good, but Iran is evil.

Crude prices jumped on a hyperbolic headline that the Israeli cabinet had voted 8 to 6 for military action against Iran.  They didn't, it was an opinion poll.

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#60

There was just a military coup in Mali.

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#61

No one gives a shit about Mali. Which is a shame, since this is the kind of upheavals we really don't want to be seeing over there.

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#62

Certainly bad news for the region, but not a peep from the usual news sources:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/201...10970.html

No reports of casualties?

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#63

Time to polish my resume! If things work out, I just may have a new job...President for Life!

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#64

North Korea going head with a new Satellite launch:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/world/asia...?hpt=hp_t3

Probably nothing going to happen, Norker Satellites don't have a great track record of making it out of the atmosphere, the fear is that stages will fall on South Korea.

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#65

The UN continues to fail miserably in Syria:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast...15473.html

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#66

Not meant against you but there's something I'd like to ask, especially the whole "the UN is incompetent" crowd. Removal of veto powers from permanent Security Council members. Yes or no?

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#67

Judging from what Russia just did due to, I'm guessing, trade agreements etc., I'd say yes.

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#68
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Not meant against you but there's something I'd like to ask, especially the whole "the UN is incompetent" crowd. Removal of veto powers from permanent Security Council members. Yes or no?

Knee jerk response?  Yes.

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#69

Coincidentally, if the UN wants to be taken more seriously, maybe not make Robert Mugabe your 'Leader of Tourism?'

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#70

Happy World War III everyone.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18554246

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Turkish warplane 'missing' near Syrian border

Turkey's government has called an emergency security meeting amid reports that one of its fighter jets was shot down by Syrian security forces.

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