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War Drums
It's specifically designed to not apply to the Chemical Weapons Convention, and is subtle as fuck. There's indications it's been a tool of choice for the KGB/FSB for decades. Our home secretary is investigating 14 suspicious fatalities at the moment, most of which would have been chalked up to a heart attack or whatever. It's literally just because both he and his daughter were collapsed and found on a bench together that anyone realized anything was amiss.
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Yemen fired missiles at Riyadh last night. Most of the missiles were intercepted, but one of the Saudi Patriot missile interceptor failed spectacularly:

https://twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/9...4392434688
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This was posted on Twitter an hour ago.  The person posting it is the White House bureau chief for Voice of America.


   
"Looking at the Trump administration, I'm starting to think I was too hard on the characters in Prometheus."  --  MrBananaGrabber
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I lost that one in Trump's latest meltdown. There was a DoD tweet denying both things, but I can't find it now.

So, yeah, it's probably 100% true, and another vacant lot is going to get several hundred million dollars of ordnance rained upon it.

Or since Bolton is in the White House now, it's gonna be WWIII.
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Twitter going nuts with imminent Syria strike rumors, nothing confirmed.
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If anti-Iran, pro-war propaganda starts ginning up in major news outlets over the next several days, keep in mind that Iran just followed through on last week's promise to drop the U.S. dollar in favor of using euros in its foreign trade deals - just like Iraq and Libya did, right before we overthrew the governments of those two countries.
"Looking at the Trump administration, I'm starting to think I was too hard on the characters in Prometheus."  --  MrBananaGrabber
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Ooof. And Trump was doing his usual shtick about the Iran deal today too. Combine that with Bolton, and the dread hand of Cheney manifests again.
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US confirms delivery of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine:

https://www.rferl.org/a/javelin-missile-...00588.html

I have no idea how this escalation is going to play out.
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(04-24-2018, 02:08 PM)Reasor Wrote: If anti-Iran, pro-war propaganda starts ginning up in major news outlets over the next several days, keep in mind that Iran just followed through on last week's promise to drop the U.S. dollar in favor of using euros in its foreign trade deals - just like Iraq and Libya did, right before we overthrew the governments of those two countries.

The Netanyahu administration in Tel Aviv called for America to go to war against Iran on its behalf today, with a televised song and dance about how Iran was totally lying about their nuclear program before the Obama administration pressured them into accepting the current deal with its heavier and more intrusive inspections. 

SPOILER:  That's why the hell Obama forced the current deal on them.
"Looking at the Trump administration, I'm starting to think I was too hard on the characters in Prometheus."  --  MrBananaGrabber
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Apparently this "new" information comes from a Mossad operation that broke into the warehouse where Iran was keeping their nuclear weapons research:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/world...d=tw-share

What I'm reading from proliferation and foreign policy folks on twitter, is that the documents they got aren't exactly anything they didn't know, and Iran is still keeping to the agreement.

Not that it will matter. Bibi and Trump both need a distraction.

Sadly, both Bibi and Trump need distractions right now.
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Full blown war with Iran? I dunno that seems like more then the US would want right now. Iran could put up a bit of a fight, not really a distraction war.
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It would profoundly dumb, especially with Assad having the war against ISIS and Al Nusra in mop-up mode with the Russians' help.  The Syrians won't be tied up there forever.

Invading Israel's and Saudi Arabia's enemies so that they won't have to do it themselves has always been dumb.  We don't have a terrific track record of letting that stop us, I have to say, and Iran has been on the State Department's shit list since that colony declared independence in 1979.
"Looking at the Trump administration, I'm starting to think I was too hard on the characters in Prometheus."  --  MrBananaGrabber
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(04-30-2018, 09:14 PM)Munson Wrote: Full blown war with Iran? I dunno that seems like more then the US would want right now. Iran could put up a bit of a fight, not really a distraction war.

As horrible as a war with Iran would be, Trump and the warmongers around him figure Iran would probably be easier than North Korea since Iran doesn't actually have any nukes to fight back with. Trump's ego and stupidity probably thinks we can make peace with North Korea (even if it is mostly South Korea initiating things) and bomb Iran with little consequences. Boom. Two of American's long term enemies taken "dealt with" in one way or another and Donald's deluded mind revels in the media coverage.
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Bolton and Bibi getting the Iran war they always wanted.
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This was an interesting read...

Quote:13 Inconvenient Truths About What Has Been Happening in Gaza
The reality is much messier than the partisan echo chambers would have you believe
By Yair Rosenberg

The cacophony that accompanies every upsurge in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict can make it seem impossible for outsiders to sort out the facts. Recent events in Gaza are no exception. The shrillest voices on each side are already offering their own mutually exclusive narratives that acknowledge some realities while scrupulously avoiding others.

But while certain facts about Gaza may be inconvenient for the loudest partisans on either side, they should not be inconvenient to the rest of us.

To that end, here are 13 complicated, messy, true things about what has been happening in Gaza. They do not conform to one political narrative or another, and they do not attempt to conclusively apportion all blame. Try, as best you can, to hold them all in your mind at the same time.
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Tablet, which I've subscribed to for years, and Yair Rosenberg in particular, slant very pro-Israel. That's to be expected - it's a magazine for and by Jewish people (and nerds like me who are interested in Judaism) - but I've found you have to take everything they say on this issue with a grain of salt.
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Yea, I mean inconvenient truth #14 could be: moving the embassy at all is a needless provocation.
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North Korea being assholes again, calling the South “ignorant and incompetent,” and threatening to halt all talks with the South unless its demands are met. Yes, it is their usual bluster and dickish behavior but with our President being a manchild this whole situation can spiral out of control like we feared earlier in the year. Trump did make plans to evacuate military families from the peninsula before the Olympics. If the summit fails or doesn't happen (and we all know either option is the most likely instead of having a massive success) what happens next?


https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-us-...s?ref=home

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/15/politics/...index.html
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(05-17-2018, 12:55 PM)boone daniels Wrote: Tablet, which I've subscribed to for years, and Yair Rosenberg in particular, slant very pro-Israel. That's to be expected - it's a magazine for and by Jewish people (and nerds like me who are interested in Judaism) - but I've found you have to take everything they say on this issue with a grain of salt.

(05-17-2018, 01:03 PM)Munson Wrote: Yea, I mean inconvenient truth #14 could be: moving the embassy at all is a needless provocation.

No argument from me about these comments...

There are bad actors/actions from both sides when it comes to this issue but IMO, Israeli actions are most definitely the worst of the two. They are the ones that could control the situation (maybe NOT move the embassy?!) but the powers that be in Israel have made the conscious choice to use the religious fundamentalist nutjobs in the White House for their own gain and continue to fuck with the Palestinian people.
I used to be with "it", but then they changed what "it" was. Now, what I'm with isn't "it", and what's "it" seems weird and scary to me. -Grandpa Simpson
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This rhetoric never ends well.

"But Trump warned that failure to make a deal could have grave consequences for Kim. Mentioning what happened in Libya, Trump said, "That model would take place if we don't make a deal."


https://www.yahoo.com/news/pentagon-no-p...itics.html
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IMO, Trump basically torpedoed the work South Korea was doing when he pulled out of the Iran deal.
Why comply if you're going to get fucked over eventually?
But the Trump baby has to break everything Obama did.
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Well to be fair Gaddafi "complied" with the West and ended up getting bayoneted in the anus. Superpower promises aren't really worth a whole lot.
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The U.S.-led coalition killed as many as 9,600 civilians during the battle against Isil.  That death toll is highest from the West since the Vietnam War:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05...een-since/

Quote:The US-led coalition killed as many as 9,600 civilians in the battle against Isil, a death toll from Western military action “not seen since the Vietnam war”, a monitoring group has found.


The coalition is responsible for more than a third of the estimated 25,000 civilian deaths in Syria and Iraq since launching its offensive against the jihadists in 2014, according to a new report by UK-based Airwars.

Airwars found that its heavy use of explosive weapons unintentionally inflicted large numbers of casualties, despite the “precise” nature of many of those bombs. 
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The president of Venezuela just survived an assassination attempt via drone.
"Looking at the Trump administration, I'm starting to think I was too hard on the characters in Prometheus."  --  MrBananaGrabber
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Quote:Momentum gathering around some kind of US military action in Venezuela: Rubio, as well as some in DC bureaucracy openly discussing now. A friend with high-level DC contacts told me recently “I’m afraid they’re gonna do something crazy.”

https://twitter.com/BrazilBrian/status/1...7564995585
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But I don't want to invade Venezuela.
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They really want a distraction from Russiagate, don't they?
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(09-01-2018, 01:31 PM)commodorejohn Wrote: They really want a distraction from Russiagate, don't they?

Yuuuup.  War is the ultimate distraction.  Well, that or a nuclear holocaust.
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The funny part is that they've gotten the brush-off from prospective adversaries twice now, so they're just going to invade a country that we're not even actually enemies with instead. (And not even attempting to spin it as "humanitarian aid" or anything!)
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They're banking on blind patriotism...

But of course this will explode in their face, get people killed, ruined relations with people that we should be allied with.

All because a bunch of white men are so dumb and petty about their evilness.
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Except for Thor 2: the literal worst.
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Venezuela? Fuckin' Venezuela? Are they that desperate for a war to drive up Trump's numbers?
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(04-30-2018, 09:14 PM)Munson Wrote: Full blown war with Iran? I dunno that seems like more then the US would want right now. Iran could put up a bit of a fight, not really a distraction war.

(04-30-2018, 09:34 PM)Reasor Wrote: It would profoundly dumb, especially with Assad having the war against ISIS and Al Nusra in mop-up mode with the Russians' help.  The Syrians won't be tied up there forever.

Invading Israel's and Saudi Arabia's enemies so that they won't have to do it themselves has always been dumb.  We don't have a terrific track record of letting that stop us, I have to say, and Iran has been on the State Department's shit list since that colony declared independence in 1979.

It would be stupid because the Iranian people (as opposed to their leadership) are probably the most pro-American in the entire region bar possibly Israel.

Don't trust me on this, even Fox News agrees (or at least someone working there was allowed to publish an article saying so).

"The Iranian people are pro-American, unlike their government"

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/01/0...nment.html

I wouldn't normally link to them but given the unusual nature of the content versus who's saying it ...
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(09-01-2018, 11:15 PM)shan Wrote: It would be stupid because the Iranian people (as opposed to their leadership) are probably the most pro-American in the entire region bar possibly Israel.

I was watching the "Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown" episode on Iran, and that's pretty much the impression that I got as well.

One one hand, they showed "Death To America" written on the side of a building, there were militias roaming around, and two journalists Bourdain talked to were arrested shortly after he interviewed them.

On the other hand, there is a significant Western influence there. The kids looked like us (in terms of clothes and hairstyles), and they have a car culture similar to the U.S.

The general attitude of the people there seemed to be that they would much rather have the U.S. as allies than enemies.
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Jason Jones found a very similar thing when he went to talk to people in Iran as part of The Daily Show (look, they're just like us!) and what they thought about the US as well as like you said, the Western influence. It was quite funny how he found people who were very well versed in US politics and civics as opposed to people in the US who knew embarrassingly little about Iran. There was one bit where he was genuinely flabbergasted when he found a shepherd or goatherd who'd heard of Utica somehow.
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(09-02-2018, 06:36 AM)shan Wrote: There was one bit where he was genuinely flabbergasted when he found a shepherd or goatherd who'd heard of Utica somehow.

That's hilarious and I am equally flabbergasted.
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