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Beards! Capes! Flutes! It's the PROGRESSIVE ROCK Thread!
(09-10-2019, 11:07 AM)Paul C Wrote: It has literally one good song on it (Onward). If I'm being honest I don't much care for Going For The One either.

Drama is cool though (and has a wonderful album cover). I tend to see that one as the last hurrah for classic Yes, even if Anderson isn't on it.

DRAMA effing rocks.  'Machine Messiah' and 'Tempus Fugit' are right up there with their absolute best tracks, regardless of the incarnation of Yes that you favor.  I wish we'd gotten another album or two out of this particular lineup because the focus and drive of that album is extremely appealing.

If I'm on a Yes kick, I typically skip over GOING FOR THE ONE and TORMATO, going straight from RELAYER (an underrated album) to DRAMA.  I tend to skip over TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS as well, to be honest.  I admire the ambition of that album but it really sinks under its own weight.
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Have you heard Fly From Here? A sort of belated Drama 2, including some stuff originally intended for a follow up album back in the day. Not world changing or anything, but held my attention better than most late period Yes I've tried.

I went through a Yes phase myself some months back. I checked out the Steven Wilson remixes box set on Spotify, which covers most of their 70's stuff (to be honest I struggled to spot any difference to the old mixes at all). I have quite a bit of time for Relayer, mostly thanks to Gates Of Delirium. That one might be closest to Drama in that it's a bit harder edged than usual.

Topographic Oceans has lots of great music on it, it's just... spread thin. One day I'm going to create a single album edit of that. It would most likely have one slightly shortened epic on it (Revealing Science Of God), with the rest whittled down to four or five regularly sized songs.
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(09-10-2019, 11:43 AM)Paul C Wrote: Topographic Oceans has lots of great music on it, it's just... spread thin. One day I'm going to create a single album edit of that. It would most likely have one slightly shortened epic on it (Revealing Science Of God), with the rest whittled down to four or five regularly sized songs.

Yeah, I agree that editing some of those songs down to the strongest elements (separate the wheat from the chaff) would have merit.

I don't listen to Yes much anymore.  In the late 80s, I was heavily, heavily into them and memorized their output.  I throw them on occasionally when the urge hits me but I've kinda reduced my listening down to about 10 tracks.
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Man, I love TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS. I have to be in the mood for it - like heading out on a road trip or something - so I can digest it all in one sitting. Definitely their most indulgent album, but its an experience.

TORMATO and GOING FOR THE ONE both have their moments (Arriving UFO is good!), but I think they are unquestionably mid-tier Yes. I'd put DRAMA up with CLOSE TO THE EDGE and FRAGILE in that upper tier, despite the lack of Anderson.
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(09-10-2019, 11:58 AM)fuzzy dunlop Wrote: I'd put DRAMA up with CLOSE TO THE EDGE and FRAGILE in that upper tier, despite the lack of Anderson.

Agreed 100%.  I kinda get the sense that How and Squire both finally got to make a more propulsive, 'metal' album with DRAMA since they were the only two original members left at that point.  The focus on that album is astounding, and both Howe and Squire sound unleashed.

And holy shit, listen to this live concert from the DRAMA tour...this is a band on fire.



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I checked out Fly From Here back when it came out, and a fair bit of the material was good (the last track particularly,) but I just couldn't get past A. the shittiness of hiring a Jon Anderson imitator to replace him (Drama proved that the band could work without him, but at least Trevor Horn was doing his own thing) and B. the fact that (unlike Horn) he wasn't nearly good enough to fill those shoes. Haven't checked out anything with the new new kid though.

Going For The One is a bit of a mixed bag, but "Parallels" and "Awaken" absolutely make it worthwhile. Tormato not so much - there's just a whole lot that never properly gels, and most of the good bits are echoed in later, better works.

I'd definitely like to hear a single-album edit of Tales someday, but I can't think where you'd actually cut - the good stuff is spread thin, but evenly enough that it's hard to point to this or that section and go "cut that mother."
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Did you know they rereleased Fly From Here with Horn on vocals? Just on a sound level I don't know it's much of an improvement because instead of an anonymous but basically competent tribute band guy you instead have a heavily autotuned sixty-something, but I guess it adds another level of curiosity value.

Curiosity value is what's sorely lacking from the new album they did after that with yet another new lineup, which I couldn't be bothered to sit through. There's a limit to how much watered down late-period Yes I need in my life.

It is kind of hilarious that they replaced Jon Anderson with a guy called Jon Davison though, like parents trying to replace the goldfish that died and hoping the kids don't notice. Maybe Genesis should search Facebook for a guy called Gabriel Peters and make him their new singer.

In non-Yes prog talk, I really got into the Camel album Mirage recently. I sent this track to a bass player friend because of the cool riff at the end, and his response was "you have to respect a song that has three introductions":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBWGjT-XV6g
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I don't think I could take an album named TORMATO seriously.
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(09-11-2019, 05:00 AM)Paul C Wrote: Did you know they rereleased Fly From Here with Horn on vocals? Just on a sound level I don't know it's much of an improvement because instead of an anonymous but basically competent tribute band guy you instead have a heavily autotuned sixty-something, but I guess it adds another level of curiosity value.
...Huh.
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I came across this late last night and was just spellbound the entire time. Ian Anderson is a musical treasure.

Edit: Why the hell aren't JT in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame yet? I mean after RUSH and YES finally made it in I'd say it's time for them as well.
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So I got this absolute beast of a YES box set on Monday and it's bloody fantastic. 12 studio albums from 1969-87, remastered w/bonus tracks and it sounds fantastic. Well worth the 75 bucks + taxes I paid for it.
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Wow, I missed a deep Yes discussion. GFTO/Tormato/Drama are all solid background music chill material. I think I had a playlist of those going while I played Diablo 3 and Torchlight 2.

Topographic and Relayer are the real gritty swampy good shit. Gives you those "about to puke up a quarter ounce of psylocibin" feels, in a good way.

Fragile is great, and Close to the Edge is one of my all time favorites (this feeling is also entwined with Yessongs live album). I heard Heart of the Sunrise studio version on the radio the other day for the first time in years, and got nostalgic for my early 2000s stoner days when I was first getting deep into prog rock.
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Sorry if reposting, but is there anything better than this?  If so please provide video evidence.




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4 musicians at the top of their game, delivering a powerhouse live performance in front of... no one.  Just because they wanted to prove to themselves that they still could.
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"Echoes" in any performance is absolutely Peak Floyd.
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That era of Floyd (Atom Heart Mother, Meddle, Obscured By Clouds) has an energy you just can't get from the more polished stuff that would follow.  Which is not a knock against Dark Side or WYWH (one of my all time favorite albums) but with those, you can feel the band veering into 'arena rock' territory; they're putting together masterpieces in the studio that require a dozen musicians to re-create live.  The stuff you see in Pompeii is just the 4 of them, all contributing equally, and there's a rawness and a sense of exploration - especially in the live versions - that's just really exciting.



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Been listening to Pink Floyd's Early Years box set the last few days and it's interesting to hear the evolution of their sound from their pop beginnings to what made them one of the biggest bands of all time.
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Today I learned Jethro Tull has a Christmas album.



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I was pretty amazed by this.



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I'm still annoyed Trans Siberian Orchestra doesn't tour up here anymore. Saw them once years ago, the best Christmas concert ever.
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(12-06-2019, 09:20 PM)turingmachine75 Wrote: I was pretty amazed by this.



Heh, this has been coming up in my YouTube recommendations for forever, but I just got around to watching it now. I kinda dig the hallucinatory Fletcher Hanks-doing-Chuck Jones-doing-Jack Kirby quality of the visuals - totally suits the mood of the piece.

And of course I never need an excuse to sit down with "Supper's Ready." God damn. If the actual Second Coming isn't set to that last section, I'm going to be very disappointed.
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So yeah, I'm on a Jethro Tull kick right now because of my discovery of their Christmas Album.  Cross that with my irratianal love of reaction videos, and you get this:

My favourite thing about this video is that the lady is clearly turned on by Ian Anderson, and the guy is constantly trying to reassert his sexual attractiveness for the duration of the video.



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(12-07-2019, 02:33 AM)commodorejohn Wrote: Heh, this has been coming up in my YouTube recommendations for forever, but I just got around to watching it now. I kinda dig the hallucinatory Fletcher Hanks-doing-Chuck Jones-doing-Jack Kirby quality of the visuals - totally suits the mood of the piece.
Turns out the guy has also almost finished doing the entirety of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. I'd really like to see what this kook could do on a non-zero budget.
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Fingers crossed he knocks Carpet Crawlers out the park.

I don't know that I've ever sat and listened to disc 2 in it's entirety. It sounds tired. A man can only take so much arpeggiation.
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Confirmed. But for a few scattered moments here and there I found I would have rather been listening to disc 1.
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I'd say there's about a side's worth of genuinely solid material on disc 2 ("Lilywhite Lilith," "The Colony of Slippermen," "The Light Dies Down on Broadway," and "it," maybe "Riding the Scree,") but there's nothing that overtly bores or annoys me. (Well, maybe "The Waiting Room," but I have a higher tolerance for weird noodly sound experiments than a lotta folks.) But it's definitely an album that could've been edited down a fair bit (axe "Counting Out Time" and "The Chamber of 32 Doors" while you're at it...but that still doesn't get it down to a single disc.)
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There isn't a single note I'd take from disc 1. It's perfect.
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Aaaaannnnd the guy completed The Lamb Lies Down. Both albums.

https://youtu.be/JszTrQdL314
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Aaaaaaaaaand GENESIS IS GOING ON TOUR!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w...i6&ampcf=1

"In England."

FUCK!
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And you just know they won't do Gabriel-era stuff. Whatever.
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Yup, that's a big ol' "meh" from me. Hell, they're not even getting Steve Hackett back, and he's actively touring with their old material.
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Eh, it's to be expected, the trio is probably where the money is. If they actually have a crack at new material I'll be curious.

I saw Phil at a festival show a few years back just for the hell of it, but realised I don't actually know more than about four Phil Collins songs. He came on with a cane and sat down the whole show. Oh well.

Re: The Lamb, have to say I adore that album from start to finish, and I'm cooler than most on Gabriel era Genesis (I find his vocal style in that period a bit grating). I just find something evocative about the sound of that album. I couldn't describe the story at all but just from the fragments I do pick up I always get the feel of going on this surreal kind of urban Alice In Wonderland journey.
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Sad prog (and non-prog) news, King Crimson multi-instrumentalist Bill Rieflin has died of cancer. He worked with a ton of other acts as well, notably REM.
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