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PROMETHEUS post-release discussion
AHACK HACK HACK Nooj!

I never really felt that Prometheus was high up on its own intelligence (when there wasn't much....or any) if anything it seemed remarkably more pulp science fictiony than I expected. But good god people...of all the movies to champion over Prometheus....AvP?? That movie was about as easy a gimme as anyone could've handed that HACK. Have some cool Predators fighting tons of Aliens. And it couldn't even deliver THAT. I think I remember one Predator fighting ONE Alien. One on one. And the Predator lost. Sigourney Weaver's narrow ass waded through a hundred thousand of those things and well....just ugh. And then that Predator made Blade's mom that lacrosse set out of some Alien remains and at the end I thought they were gonna hug. So if Stocks got some actual belly laughs out of AvP whereas Prometheus put him to sleep I guess I can see THAT point but just....ugh.

Y'all backed the wrong horse in this race when comes to "NOT There will be Blood" Paul Anderson. If you'd said Event Horizon was better than Prometheus...well..
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Three Musketeers is pretty fun.

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APaul Anderson made a Three Musketeers movie? *runs to google*
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A[quote name="Fraid uh noman" url="/community/t/143658/prometheus-post-release-discussion/2500#post_3974532"] If you'd said Event Horizon was better than Prometheus...well..[/quote]

Well, it is 30 mins shorter.
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AGood god man, do you sit down to a movie with a stop watch?!
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AOnly if it sucks.
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AWhy watch a movie if you think it sucks? Or once it starts sucking do you go get your stop watch and continue watching instead of ya know, not watching the rest Wink?
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AWatch it!
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AI love ya Stocks.

Big kisses!

This might as well be called the Prometheus post-mortem discussion thread what with all the buzzards flying around its dried out bloated corpse..
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AHeck, I only bumped this up because of how surprised I was over how similar this was to AVP. It even has the same beat about the dying founder of Weyland joining an expedition to... bullshit or something, and that expedition just happens to be run by a bunch of scientists that don't act like scientists because Hollywood will never get scientists.

"Don't touch that!"
*guy touches it*

I'm suprised the follow up film is actually happening, cause I have no idea where you go with a severed Michael Fassbender head being carried by Noomi Rapace. At least Damon Lindelof won't be writing this.
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AFrom what I can remember of AvP (not since the theater in '04) there really are more similarities between the two than I like admitting.

But since I truly do love Prometheus' visuals as much as I do, I'm pretty open to a superior sequel. Is it confirmed that it's going to have the same characters? When I first heard about a sequel to this I figured they'd almost have no choice but to follow a different group of people into similar circumstances like Romero's Dead movies.

I found Robin Hood to be the absolute lowest point of Scott's career. An absolutely unbearably unwatchable slog. And because of that, I avoided Prometheus for two years until Black Friday last year when I picked if up uber cheap for the hell of it. Based on everything that I'd heard about it I expected the worst but was surprised that I enjoyed it. Certainly (for me at least) represented an uptick in quality from Robin Hood. And The Martian is even (WAAAY) better. So I'm kind of hoping Scott's getting his groove back..
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I'll admit that I really enjoy the first hour of PROMETHEUS.  It loses me at Fifield and Milburn.



The film lost me at the scientists - safely assumed to be the best in their field, since Weyland has All The Money to hire them - arriving on an exoplanet and IMMEDIATELY heading outside with no tests, probes, or real precautions.



And then one of said Best Sciencing Guys Ever takes his fucking helmet off on a whim.



Fifield and Milburn getting "lost" at the exact same time they're 3D mapping the complex (and their subsequent, even dumber actions) just solidified it.

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Three Musketeers is pretty fun.



All i remembered is that the girl who plays Constance has big boobs!

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AI just assumed that Weyland and his team of scientists immediately went out there after taking David's word for it that it was safe for them since he'd already been out. But I could be assuming too much..
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The film lost me at the scientists - safely assumed to be the best in their field, since Weyland has All The Money to hire them - arriving on an exoplanet and IMMEDIATELY heading outside with no tests, probes, or real precautions.



And then one of said Best Sciencing Guys Ever takes his fucking helmet off on a whim.



Fifield and Milburn getting "lost" at the exact same time they're 3D mapping the complex (and their subsequent, even dumber actions) just solidified it.


Or the fact that they were all hired and flown lightyears in cryotubes without even knowing the job they were tasked to do.



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Heck, I only bumped this up because of how surprised I was over how similar this was to AVP. It even has the same beat about the dying founder of Weyland joining an expedition to... bullshit or something, and that expedition just happens to be run by a bunch of scientists that don't act like scientists because Hollywood will never get scientists.

"Don't touch that!"
*guy touches it*

I'm suprised the follow up film is actually happening, cause I have no idea where you go with a severed Michael Fassbender head being carried by Noomi Rapace. At least Damon Lindelof won't be writing this.


Both this movie and AVP also share a scene where they pull out a machine gun and the scientist is surprised they have it on an expedition.
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AI'd imagine Noomi and David would be reenacting Reanimator on their long journey.

Everyone has needs
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I like A View To A Kill, I like both AVP films, and I like Prometheus. Y'know, since I'm ME. I'm looking forward to Alien: Covenant. Prometheus had its problems, but those are mostly by Lindelof. PWSA gets a whole lot of flack, but I'd take his films (which I find to be nothing short of popcorn fun) over Lindelof and his need to make movies (and tvs shows) with lots of unanswered stuff, because he expects a sequel to be made so they can be answered in there. It just leaves a film like Prometheus with TONS of stuff that makes no sense (what? they left coordinates on Earth to a military base where they were experimenting with the black oil? why?), because they trusted Lindelof to gut Spaits Alien prequel and make his own bullshit that hurt the film more than helped. I say this as someone who loved Prometheus and still do.



Lindelof not being on board for the sequel is a great thing. Now all they need to do is reach out to PWSA so he can treat us to some in your face 3D! <img src=" src="http://files.chud.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" />

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ARidley Scott regained some credibility from me with "The Martian." If he doesn't sabotage a good script, he can still deliver the goods.

I still don't know what the fuck he was going for with "Prometheus." It's an "Alien" prequel that's not an "Alien" prequel except when it is an "Alien" prequel: a clear vision! The fact that the next one has "Alien" in the title at least suggests he's not so uncertain about what kind of film he's making.
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AI think part of the reason I liked Prometheus more than most was because of that odd disconnect between it and Alien. Because of that I didn't get that awkward prequel feel where the movie is trying desperately to connect to whatever movie it's supposed to come before. And I know for SURE that I'm alone on this (and this is a pretty fatal flaw if it didn't work for you) but the removal of a lot of the mystery surrounding the Space Jockey, against all odds, didn't piss me off like I expected it to. I was sure that was where the movie was gonna lose me but god help me I was ok with it. It was certainly unique, and still felt weird and alien. Those Dr Manhattan looking dudes with the fat DeNiro from Raging Bull face were the last thing I expected.

Now this next one? Having Alien in the title? Seems to be treading sharkier waters as it'll probably try to segue directly into Alien. But since they've jettisoned those doofy writers and Scott seems to be improving from where he's been for the past decade? Maybe it'll be an even further improvement.

Robin Hood < Prometheus < The Martian

Maybe the trend will continue. Although I may also be alone on seeing Prometheus as better than Robin Hood. I can't imagine how that's possible because Robin Hood is one of the most awful unwatchably boring things I've ever seen. There's worse movies, yeah....but few that are harder to sit through. That thing felt 5 hours long and I still can't even remember if I finished it..
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I can agree with you on Robin Hood. I found the blu at Big Lots for 5 bucks, and it was such a long and boring film with bits of action that couldn't save it. I checked out early on and it was mostly background noise while I was on the laptop.

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AYeah, I seriously can't think of but just a very few movies that were that interminable to try to sit through. It's unbelievable to me that it's actually a Ridley Scott movie. I'm pretty sure I turned it off. The only other movies that were so much nothing that I couldn't even finish em were ASM 2 and Revenge of the Fallen...the latter of which I swear to god was DAYS long...and I LIKE the other three..

Die Another Day is another one...just remembered..
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ROBIN HOOD alternated at first between tragically boring and sorta hilarious (in its miscasting and thinking it was way more epic than it actually was). Then it just settled into fatally boring.

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