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The Republican Party Going Forward v 2.0
(06-19-2018, 07:16 AM)jmacq1 Wrote: By all indications, if Kasich primaries Trump in 2020 he’ll likely do no better, if not worse, than he did last time.  

I think any remaining “moderate” Republicans thinking this will all just blow over are deluding themselves.

Maybe, maybe not. I know that people think Repubs will never abandoned Trump but we said the same about Bush. If this trade war hits red voters in their wallets like it should or we start another usuless war over nothing, they will dump him and adjust their brainwashing accordingly.
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(06-18-2018, 11:36 PM)Paul755 Wrote: I’m watching Kasich on MSNBC right now...this fucking guy is running in 2020. I just can’t not see him challenging Trump.

I agree, but only if Trump is still the president in 2020. Considering the outrage with what's happening at the border, I'm not convinced he will be.
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The Kochs are spending big money to kill public transportation projects:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/19/clima...&smtyp=cur

Quote:In cities and counties across the country — including Little Rock, Ark.; Phoenix, Ariz.; southeast Michigan; central Utah; and here in Tennessee — the Koch brothers are fueling a fight against public transit, an offshoot of their longstanding national crusade for lower taxes and smaller government. 

At the heart of their effort is a network of activists who use a sophisticated data service built by the Kochs, called i360, that helps them identify and rally voters who are inclined to their worldview. It is a particularly powerful version of the technologies used by major political parties. 

In places like Nashville, Koch-financed activists are finding tremendous success.

Early polling here had suggested that the $5.4 billion transit plan would easily pass. It was backed by the city’s popular mayor and a coalition of businesses. Its supporters had outspent the opposition, and Nashville was choking on cars.

But the outcome of the May 1 ballot stunned the city: a landslide victory for the anti-transit camp, which attacked the plan as a colossal waste of taxpayers’ money. 

“This is why grass roots works,” said Tori Venable, Tennessee state director for Americans for Prosperity, which made almost 42,000 phone calls and knocked on more than 6,000 doors.

I love public transportation, but, apparently, no one would ever choose it?

Quote:Public transit, Americans for Prosperity says, goes against the liberties that Americans hold dear. “If someone has the freedom to go where they want, do what they want,” Ms. Venable said, “they’re not going to choose public transit.”
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(06-19-2018, 01:54 PM)bigbrother Wrote:
(06-19-2018, 07:16 AM)jmacq1 Wrote: By all indications, if Kasich primaries Trump in 2020 he’ll likely do no better, if not worse, than he did last time.  

I think any remaining “moderate” Republicans thinking this will all just blow over are deluding themselves.

Maybe, maybe not. I know that people think Repubs will never abandoned Trump but we said the same about Bush. If this trade war hits red voters in their wallets like it should or we start another usuless war over nothing, they will dump him and adjust their brainwashing accordingly.

ONLY if Conservative media turns against him.
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The polls looked good for convicted felon Michael Grimm, but he lost... "like a boy."
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Another one bites the dust...
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Figures:

   
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Ted Cruz went to Twitter to tell Illinois Republicans in the state's third district to not vote for Nazi candidate, Arthur Jones:

https://www.mediaite.com/online/ted-cruz...-democrat/

Quote:Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) sent out a tweet encouraging people to vote against a controversial Illinois candidate running on the GOP ticket and instead, write in someone or vote for a Democrat.

“This is horrific,” Cruz wrote. “An avowed Nazi running for Congress. To the good people of Illinois, you have two reasonable choices: write in another candidate, or vote for the Democrat. This bigoted fool should receive ZERO votes.”

Cruz was referring to Arthur Jones, an Illinois Holocaust denier who ran and won the Republican primary in the heavily Democratic Third Congressional District. Jones ran unopposed.
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(06-29-2018, 09:45 PM)Iron Maiden Wrote: Ted Cruz went to Twitter to tell Illinois Republicans in the state's third district to not vote for Nazi candidate, Arthur Jones:

https://www.mediaite.com/online/ted-cruz...-democrat/

Quote:Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) sent out a tweet encouraging people to vote against a controversial Illinois candidate running on the GOP ticket and instead, write in someone or vote for a Democrat.

“This is horrific,” Cruz wrote. “An avowed Nazi running for Congress. To the good people of Illinois, you have two reasonable choices: write in another candidate, or vote for the Democrat. This bigoted fool should receive ZERO votes.”

Cruz was referring to Arthur Jones, an Illinois Holocaust denier who ran and won the Republican primary in the heavily Democratic Third Congressional District. Jones ran unopposed.


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"Hello ma'am? Please don't vote for the Nazi. No ma'am, the President isn't a Nazi he just likes them which is perfectly acceptable. No, you're not the first to tell me to go fuck myself ma'am. Good day."
Originally Posted by ImmortanNick 

Saw Batman v Superman.
Now I know what it's like to see Nickelback in concert.

That's my review.
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Sen. Luther Strange keeps Alabama's impressive streak of high-ranking corruption going:

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index...labam.html
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(06-29-2018, 09:45 PM)Iron Maiden Wrote: Ted Cruz went to Twitter to tell Illinois Republicans in the state's third district to not vote for Nazi candidate, Arthur Jones:

https://www.mediaite.com/online/ted-cruz...-democrat/

Quote:Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) sent out a tweet encouraging people to vote against a controversial Illinois candidate running on the GOP ticket and instead, write in someone or vote for a Democrat.

“This is horrific,” Cruz wrote. “An avowed Nazi running for Congress. To the good people of Illinois, you have two reasonable choices: write in another candidate, or vote for the Democrat. This bigoted fool should receive ZERO votes.”

Cruz was referring to Arthur Jones, an Illinois Holocaust denier who ran and won the Republican primary in the heavily Democratic Third Congressional District. Jones ran unopposed.

In a just world, this would have gotten absolutely zero media attention at all.  This is craven political opportunism at its' most transparent.  The seat in question is about as safe as safe gets...for the Democrats.  So Cruz risks absolutely nothing coming out against the neo-nazi candidate that his party has already disavowed (because the guy was never going to win anyway), and people that don't bother looking further than a headline (read:  A shit-ton of people in his home state of Texas, where he's up for re-election) believe that Ted Cruz is taking some kind of principled stand.
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For anyone familiar with Texas politics, What are the chances that Cruz is defeated by Beto O'Rourke?
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(07-02-2018, 05:59 PM)history buff Wrote: For anyone familiar with Texas politics, What are the chances that Cruz is defeated by Beto O'Rourke?

On the lower end but not impossible.  Dem enthusiasm seems to be high, and by most indications Beto is running a hell of a campaign.  But it's a huge open question as to whether that enthusiasm will be enough to overcome the entrenched red base in Texas, and in the past, pre-election polling has fairly often made it seem like the Dems are doing better than bears out on election day, so there's reason to be skeptical when it looks like it's close.

Either way, Cruz is still significantly favored to win, if not as much as he was a few months ago.
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So turns out Jim Jordan probably covered up a sex scandal while he was coaching at Ohio State.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pow...al-n888386
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Pregnant women and children are supposed to be exempt from Gov. Matt Bevin's decision to cut dental and vision benefits from nearly 500,000 Kentuckians, but dentists are saying they've had to turn away people of both groups:

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/ne...760670002/
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The teachers movement in Oklahoma had some big victories last week:

http://www.governing.com/topics/politics...imary.html

Quote:This generally hasn't been a big year for ousting state legislators in primaries thus far. But an anti-incumbent wave also hit Oklahoma on Tuesday. There, the issue was problems with the state budget and a fight over school funding that led to a statewide teachers' walkout in April.

"This is entirely a mobilization against anti-tax, anti-education lawmakers in the GOP primary," says Keith Gaddie, a political scientist at the University of Oklahoma. "Of the 10 incumbent GOP House members who opposed education funding across the board and sought reelection, two lost outright and seven have runoffs, while the other one prevailed by just three votes."

Four other Republican incumbents in the Oklahoma House also lost their seats Tuesday, including one who lost to a middle school English teacher. According to the Oklahoma Education Association, there were 112 candidates who were teachers, school administrators, retired educators or individuals related to teachers. Of those, 70 won nomination or proceeded to runoffs on Aug. 28.

"Tuesday was evidence that the walkout did have a major impact on the election and that voters supported our schools and the education system," says Alicia Priest, the union's president.

Oklahoma Democrats recognize that they have no chance of erasing the Republican majorities in the legislature, but they hope that GOP incumbent losses in the primaries and any gains they make in the fall will shift the nature of working majorities next year.

"We could pick up enough seats to break the supermajority, and a lot of these Republicans are going to be replaced in their primaries by candidates who are less ideologically staunch," says Anna Langthorn, who chairs the Oklahoma Democratic Party.
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Indiana Attorney General Curtis Hill is battling allegations that he groped a state lawmaker and three legislative staffers during a party back in March:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/indiana-attor...34831.html

Quote:Indiana Attorney General Curtis Hill defiantly rejected calls to resign on Monday, saying his name has been "dragged through the gutter," following allegations that he inappropriately touched a lawmaker and several female legislative staffers during a party.

The Republican said during a news conference where he did not take questions that he has been unfairly treated by lawmakers and the media, and stands "falsely and publicly accused of abhorrent behavior."

"These past several days and weeks, my name and reputation have been dragged through the gutter in ways that I would have never imagined. Apparently in this climate the standard is guilty and 'who cares if you're innocent?'" he said from a podium in his office. "A week ago today, I had a name. And I want my name back."

The claims against Hill were made public after an internal legislative memo detailing the allegations was leaked to the media last week. In it, a state lawmaker and three legislative staffers said Hill drunkenly groped them during a March party.

Democratic Rep. Mara Candelaria Reardon and Gabrielle McLemore, the Indiana Senate Democrats' communications director, came forward Friday saying they were among the victims.

Hill called the allegations "vicious and false" and said he looked forward to "the day when I can speak freely and answer questions." He didn't respond to shouted questions about whether he was calling the women liars.
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Gov. Henry McMaster of South Carolina blocked almost $16 million intended to fund birth control, prenatal care and annual exams for Medicaid recipients because a small portion of that money would be going to Planned Parenthood for services completely unrelated to abortion:

https://www.postandcourier.com/news/mcma...a83de.html

Quote:Gov. Henry McMaster blocked nearly $16 million intended to fund birth control, prenatal care and annual exams for poor South Carolinians to stop a tiny fraction of that from going to abortion-provider Planned Parenthood. 

McMaster's veto of family-planning services for Medicaid patients — none of which includes abortions — was a large chunk of the $35.8 million total he struck from the Legislature's roughly $8 billion budget for 2018-19. The spending plan officially took effect when he delivered his vetoes late Thursday.  

The governor eliminated funding to thousands of federally approved Medicaid providers for many family-planning services because there is no single line item for Planned Parenthood in the state budget.

The state's former Medicaid director, Tony Keck, said McMaster's decision will increase abortions if the veto stands.

"Access to birth control for men and women reduces unwanted pregnancies," said Keck, director under former Republican Gov. Nikki Haley. "Reducing access to birth control will increase unwanted pregnancies and increase abortions. You can't have it both ways."

The vetoes are not guaranteed to stand but it is not clear when the Legislature will return to consider overrides. It might not be for some time.
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The NRCC has withdrew its support of Seth Grossman after a Media Matters report showed further gross stuff he said:

https://twitter.com/ZachMontellaro/statu...4228797440

Here's the latest:

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/0...ack/220614

Quote:Seth Grossman, a right-wing pundit who is now the GOP nominee in New Jersey’s 2nd Congressional District, previously touted opinion pieces that were published on two leading white nationalist websites. One of those posts, which Grossman praised, claimed that Black people “are a threat to all who cross their paths.”

In an email to Media Matters, Grossman attempted to distance himself from his endorsement of the racist "threat to all who cross their paths" piece and said he wants to help "take the Democratic training wheels off the black and Hispanic communities so they can succeed even more."

Grossman drew headlines last month when American Bridge 21st Century PAC released a video of him saying in April, “The whole idea of diversity is a bunch of crap and un-American.” (American Bridge founder David Brock is also the founder of Media Matters.)
Grossman’s career as a pundit provides numerous other examples of him publicly spouting bigotry. CNN’s Nathan McDermott, Andrew Kaczynski, and Chris Massie reported that Grossman “has said diversity leads to Muslims killing Christians and that Kwanzaa is a fake holiday made by black racists to divide America,” among other remarks.

Media Matters previously documented bigoted and racist remarks about Black and Muslim people that Grossman had made in commentary pieces and on social media before he launched his run for Congress. He claimed to know “of many Africans who wish their ancestors had been taken to America as slaves” and said “Islam is a cancer” that has “already infected a billion people.” Grossman also promoted white nationalist propaganda.

This New Jersey district is a swing district, by the way, currently held by a retiring Republican.

Sadly, when discussing publicly white supremacists running as Republicans this year, the first thing one needs to say is "be more specific."
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Gov. Matt Bevin of Kentucky is shocked that black children play chess:

https://lawandcrime.com/race-relations/k...lay-chess/

Quote:The governor of Kentucky probably just wanted a photo op. Instead, he started talking.

While on a promotional tour of West Louisville, Kentucky’s GOP Governor Matt Bevin stopped by the Nativity Academy at St. Boniface in order to film a brief social media spot. There, Bevin happened upon something he’d apparently never seen before: black children playing chess. Amidst this seemingly new discovery for the Republican governor, Bevin said:

I’m here at the Nativity Academy. I’m about to go in and meet the members of the West Louisville Chess Club. Not something you necessarily would have thought of when you think of this section of town and yet some incredible young minds, some incredible teachers.
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Wow....I knew there were some really moronic Republicans out there...

Quote:The Kinder Guardians program is a fake program Borat invented to weed out politicians who will say anything for money #whoisamerica look at what these idiots read voluntarily off of a TelePrompTer when asked by who they thought was an Israeli tv host


video at the link
I used to be with "it", but then they changed what "it" was. Now, what I'm with isn't "it", and what's "it" seems weird and scary to me. -Grandpa Simpson
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You can tell a lot about different GOP members from the Kinderguardians thing.

The ones who fell for it, like Rohrbacher and Walsh, claim they were ‘tricked’, but the point is that they are so bought and paid for that they don’t remotely consider anything beyond ‘more guns=good, less guns=bad’. At least someone like Gaetz was able to stop and consider what he was being asked to say and consider what he was being asked to say like a person rather than a puppet.
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A 2012 radio conversation where Rep. Jason Louis of Minnesota wonders aloud why we can't call women "sluts" has been unearthed:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/republican-c...s-anymore/

Quote:Rep. Jason Louis (R-MN), a great philosopher for our time.

“You’re welcome, America, for what you’re about to hear,” Alisyn Camerota began sarcastically, explaining that the investigative team at CNN’s New Day unearthed a portion of a radio show from March 2012 in which Louis wondered why it’s not a thing for women to be called sluts nowadays.

Here’s what he said:

“Well the thing is, can we call anybody a slut? This is what begs the question… Does a woman now have the right to behave – and I know there’s a double standard between the way men chase women and, you know, running around, you know – I’m not going to get there but you know what I’m talking about. But it used to be that women were held to a little bit of a higher standard. We required modesty from women. Now, are we beyond those days where a woman can behave as a slut but we can’t call her a slut?”
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Lewis.

But he's such a dick, he deserves to have his name misspelled.
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Good piece about how Steve King is plainly a white nationalist/supremacist, and nobody seems to care:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ste...784ebe?ape
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(07-19-2018, 11:55 AM)boone daniels Wrote: Good piece about how Steve King is plainly a white nationalist/supremacist, and nobody seems to care:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ste...784ebe?ape

I'm sure it's been said a thousand times in the politics forum but these people simply have no shame.  I read and heard Republicans give their opinion that liberalism is a disease and it's tearing apart the country and possibly the world.  Racism is fine of course.  And sexism.  And fascism.
I think these screen captures and giant (Dildi? Is there a plural?) are just the next step in the JJ Abrams online adventure series. Very slyly played, Bitches Leave.-Tom Fuchs
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Ammon Bundy would like you to know that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has been infiltrated by socialists, globalists and environmentalists:

https://www.hjnews.com/news/local/ammon-...1d87f.html

Quote:Ammon Bundy, a constitutional rights defender to his allies and a domestic terrorist to his critics, spoke in Smithfield on Wednesday and claimed that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, of which he is a devout member, has been infiltrated by socialists, globalists and environmentalists.

He claimed that the federal government’s prosecution of him and his supporters following confrontations in Nevada and Oregon is really a “battle of high priests” of the LDS Church. He said his father, himself and his attorney are all high priests in the church, but so are the lead U.S. attorney prosecuting his family, the chief judge in Oregon and former Nevada Sen. Harry Reid.

These comments elicited murmurs from the largely LDS crowd of nearly 200 people gathered in the Smithfield Recreation Center at Sky View High School.

“Why would I come in here and testify to you that I truly believe The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the true church and that the Book of Mormon is true and then tell you that we’re being prosecuted by a high priest of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?” Bundy asked. “Why would I tell you those things? Because the truth matters.”

Bundy went on to explain his view that events detailed in the Book of Mormon and the Bible have been repeating themselves over the past several years in his confrontations with the federal government.

Here's the gist:

Quote:The LDS Church at the time issued a statement condemning the armed takeover of the refuge, stating "this armed occupation can in no way be justified on a scriptural basis."

Bundy quoted passages Wednesday from Third Nephi in the Book of Mormon and the Book of Judges in the Bible's Old Testament to draw comparisons to how his family and others have been unjustly targeted by the government. He said it’s a battle between good and evil.

“I’m trying to show you that what was happening then is happening now,” Bundy said.

These statements come under the backdrop of Bundy’s worldview that all plants and animals on Earth were placed here by God for the express use and benefit of humans.

On the other side, he claims that environmentalists, globalists and socialists believe that man has evolved into an intellectually advanced species, and therefore all other species are at a disadvantage. He said the environmentalists believe it’s man’s duty to balance the species and to eliminate much of the human population. He said environmentalism is a religion.

“It is a completely different theology than a Christian theology,” Bundy said.

He said this same group of environmentalists, educated in "government" schools, have infiltrated the lower and middle levels of the LDS Church.

“I know that our church on the lower levels, the mid levels, has been infiltrated by these same people, but not the higher levels,” Bundy said. “I truly believe that those higher levels are honest, good, righteous men who follow the Lord’s guidance and inspiration, and I believe that they will guide us … through these rough times.”

When a Herald Journal reporter asked Bundy if members of the LDS Church can trust their local clergy, Bundy said it’s up to the individual to determine what is right and wrong.

“Whenever anybody in the church or out of the church is trying to infringe upon your agency, then they have become an enemy to God,” Bundy told The Herald Journal.
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