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NBC's Hannibal
#1

Thoughts?

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#2

Is this more about riding elephants and conquering Rome or eating someone's liver with fava beans and a nice chianti?

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#3

Didn't watch it, didn't even know it existed until right this minute but I took a look at the website.......take a look at the tagline........AMAZING!

http://www.nbc.com/hannibal/

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#4

I'd forgotten about this.

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#5

So.... Is every episode going to go like this:

Will: “I know who the killer is. It’s Smith, the damn security guard! He’s the only one who had keys to all of their houses!”

Hannibal: “Very good, Will. I’ll see you there. I just have to pick up a nice chianti.”

*Two scenes later*

Will: “I just don’t understand how he could have disappeared like that. What’s that smell of cooked meat in his house? Was it like that when you arrived?”

Hannibal (licking his lips): “Yes. Now excuse me whilst I use the restroom. I had a big lunch.”

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#6
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post

So.... Is every episode going to go like this:

Will: “I know who the killer is. It’s Smith, the damn security guard! He’s the only one who had keys to all of their houses!”

Hannibal: “Very good, Will. I’ll see you there. I just have to pick up a nice chianti.”

*Two scenes later*

Will: “I just don’t understand how he could have disappeared like that. What’s that smell of cooked meat in his house? Was it like that when you arrived?”

Hannibal (licking his lips): “Yes. Now excuse me whilst I use the restroom. I had a big lunch.”

Ok so Hannibal only kills other serial killers? Guess someone wants the network version of Dexter.

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#7
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Originally Posted by Waaaaaaaalt View Post

Ok so Hannibal only kills other serial killers? Guess someone wants the network version of Dexter.

He might not. I'm only guessin'.

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#8
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post

He might not. I'm only guessin'.

Oh, because I was wondering when someone would attempt a Dexter clone.

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#9

Bryan Fuller is doing this ... which makes me mildly interested.

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#10
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Originally Posted by zak chase View Post

Bryan Fuller is doing this ... which makes me mildly interested.

I'm in the same boat. It seems like an even worse mismatch of subject and showrunner than Mockingbird Lane, though, and I'm wondering if it's going to run into some sort on tonal dissonance brick wall at some point.

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#11
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Thoughts?

Destined to fail, but I don't begrudge it's star the payday. Between Casino Royale and Valhalla Rising, Mads has plenty of good will left to burn.

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#12

Apparently Gillian Anderson will be in a Multi Ep arc.

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#13

Wasn't she up for Starling in Hannibal?

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#14

That would've been amazing.

According to the second and third Hannibal flicks, Lecter kills those who offend his ivory tower-esque sensibilities (for instance, a classical musician who screwed up during a performance, offending Hannibal's ears with his substandard playing). He doesn't target evil people, per se... just rude, uncouth, or passe ones.

So Will's not in the FBI anymore? Hmm...

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#15

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#16

Hellraiser: CSI

Smile

Seriously, NBC is desperate for a hit and seeing as how shows like Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, et al have been blurring the line between broadcast TV (NBC, CBS, etc) and the 'premium' channels (HBO, Showtime, etc), I'm thinking that NBC is going to see what they can get away with.

The one thing that still irks me about US television....there doesn't seem to be much of a problem with extreme violence but heaven's forbid we should hear "god damn" or "fuck" or see nudity....noooo, we can't have that.

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#17

Don't like what I'm seeing. Mikkelsen's a fine actor but he rings no bells as Lecter, at least in this footage. Maybe there's other footage where he projects the wit and evil playfulness that are essential to Lecter, but I don't see it here, which may not be his fault so much as the writing. I'm not saying he needs to ape Hopkins or even Brian Cox, but I just don't look at him in that trailer and say "Yep, that's Hannibal." His voice is all wrong too, more mopey than insinuating. Not to mention the accent, which based on the few lines here I'm not sure if he's just not bothering to hide his own accent or if in the show's mythology they're going to go with "Hannibal is from Lithuanian royalty and that's why he doesn't sound like a Baltimore American."

Also, as a lifelong horror fan, I gotta say the violence put me off. There's violent and then there's needlessly revolting and this looks like the latter. Except for a shot here and there, Silence of the Lambs is actually the perfect template for how to do this material for TV by the power of suggestion, not shoving our faces into rotting corpses. But then I've been surprised what shows get away with. I've seen shit on Bones that would get slapped with an NC-17 if it was in a theatrical film. Silence was considered grisly back in the day but Bones makes it look tame.

Finally something goofy: I'd have been impressed if they'd CGI'd a sixth finger onto Mikkelsen's left hand.

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#18
AWhat I got from the books is that before his arrest as the Baltimore ripper, Hannibal managed to put on a perfect facade in public. He was a diabolical sociopathic genius who made sport of insinuating himself amongst the very criminal psychologists tasked with his capture. His private life was an elaborate farce, designed to humiliate and discredit the psychiatric community by gaining acceptance into the upper ranks of that profession and it's social class. The last thing he was was overtly creepy. Someone like Graham might have been able to intuitively sense something.... But it took Graham too long to pick up on the truth, and it nearly cost him his life. I think it is a more interesting choice to play Hannibal before his capture and exposure, when he still has a pretense to keep up. Hannibal was creepy to inspector Pazzi in Hannibal, but only because Hannibal was deliberately toying with Pazzi knowing full well his cover was most likely irreparably blown.

If they just hired Mads to act sketchy, that seems like a much less interesting show than this could have been. I think the brief snippets we see of Hopkins in Red Dragon's pre title sequence offer a more intriguing glimpse of early Lechter. His polite and fatherly manner with Edward Norton, underscored with near invisible moments of a chilling, monstrously calculating menace, made for fine drama.
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#19

Just checking. But is Hannibal Rising the film any good?

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#20
ANo, and Thomas Harris was pretty much blackmailed into writing the book. You can write off that entire project and not miss anything.
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#21
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No, and Thomas Harris was pretty much blackmailed into writing the book. You can write off that entire project and not miss anything.

Details please!

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#22
AI dug the movie but I think drastically lowered expectations helped quite a bit.
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#23
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Details please!

Supposedly Dino de Laurentiis told Harris something like "We want to do the prequel with you, but we'll do it without you if we have to."

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What I got from the books is that before his arrest as the Baltimore ripper, Hannibal managed to put on a perfect facade in public.

I agree with you, and maybe there's stuff in the actual episodes that establishes Hannibal as a witty presence — doesn't have to be sucking in air and saying "Chianti" and all that — but someone who's extremely smart and an excellent dinner host and conversationalist. (We see him smirking at a fine meal he's prepared, but as you say, we get a better sense of Hannibal the bon vivant and welcoming host in the pre-capture Red Dragon scenes. Plus I really liked the detail that he had a little ponytail; for some reason it seemed to fit him.) From what we see in the trailer, though, he seems as gloomy and brooding as Will Graham is, not an especially compelling presence. One of the key features of book-Lecter and movie-Lecter is that he keeps himself amused, and I don't get that sense from the admittedly Lecter-shy trailer.

Also his hair is weird.

Also I wonder how Harris feels about TV essentially doing a Red Dragon prequel. He may have just figured at this point "Fuck it, just send the checks." Personally I'd rather have seen a show about the further adventures of Starling, but there are already tons of shows like that, I guess. Fairly or not, nobody would've read or seen a sequel called Clarice but everyone lined up for Hannibal.

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#25

Lifetime is actually working on a Clarice Starling TV show!

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#26

Looks like a pretty grisly show.  I can see it drawing a few complaints from people for its graphic nature.

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Plus I really liked the detail that he had a little ponytail; for some reason it seemed to fit him.)

The take away being, men with pony tails are to be treated with suspicion and contempt.

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#28

I guess I'm the only person in North America who is bored sick with all the serial killer shows on TV these days.  Serial killers, the new lawyers.....

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Lifetime is actually working on a Clarice Starling TV show!

I don't know if that is a joke or not but I completely believe that.

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#30

Saw the trailer, and so far I'm liking it. They're not showing much of Mads as Hannibal, so I think it's premature to judge his performance too harshly as of yet.

A few comments: I just recently re-read Red Dragon (and wow, isn't that a tongue twister), and there's nothing in there about Hannibal helping the police, or he and Will having a mentor/pupil (or any other sort of) relationship before Lecter was caught. In the book, one of Lecter's patients was a victim; Will went to interview Lecter, saw a diagram of a dissected corpse in his office and intuited that Hannibal was the killer; Lecter sensed this, and stabbed Will in a rather clumsy attempt to avoid being captured. He was caught shortly thereafter. The idea of Hannibal and Will working together to catch killers (at least pre-Tooth Fairy) is entirely an invention of the film franchise.

Also, they seem to have updated the storyline to the present day (with Freddy Loundes being a blogger and whatnot), so I don't think Lecter's Lithuanian/WWII-era backstory would work with this new incarnation. They'll have to tweak that quite a bit, if they get into it at all.

Will Hannibal even be a serial killer at this point? An interesting approach might be to say that he killed the guys who were responsible for Misha's death (as seen in Hannibal Rising), but has been living a more-or-less ordinary (albeit opulent) life since then. Maybe getting sucked into a serial killer investigation is part of what reawakens his bloodlust and eventually gets him killing again.

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#31
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Originally Posted by TonyB79 View Post

Saw the trailer, and so far I'm liking it. They're not showing much of Mads as Hannibal, so I think it's premature to judge his performance too harshly as of yet.

A few comments: I just recently re-read Red Dragon (and wow, isn't that a tongue twister), and there's nothing in there about Hannibal helping the police, or he and Will having a mentor/pupil (or any other sort of) relationship before Lecter was caught. In the book, one of Lecter's patients was a victim; Will went to interview Lecter, saw a diagram of a dissected corpse in his office and intuited that Hannibal was the killer; Lecter sensed this, and stabbed Will in a rather clumsy attempt to avoid being captured. He was caught shortly thereafter. The idea of Hannibal and Will working together to catch killers (at least pre-Tooth Fairy) is entirely an invention of the film franchise.

Also, they seem to have updated the storyline to the present day (with Freddy Loundes being a blogger and whatnot), so I don't think Lecter's Lithuanian/WWII-era backstory would work with this new incarnation. They'll have to tweak that quite a bit, if they get into it at all.

Will Hannibal even be a serial killer at this point? An interesting approach might be to say that he killed the guys who were responsible for Misha's death (as seen in Hannibal Rising), but has been living a more-or-less ordinary (albeit opulent) life since then. Maybe getting sucked into a serial killer investigation is part of what reawakens his bloodlust and eventually gets him killing again.

Or they try and turn it into Dexter which worries me. It would be really tempting for a major network to have Hannibal only kill bad people.

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#32

Ok, show's up tomorrow.

Sepinwall loved it, says it does everything The Following doesn't.

I'm down as fuck, ever since I found out Fuller was doing it.

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#33
AMads as Lector is why I will give this show a chance.
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#34

I’ll be watching this show due to my interest in fictional serial killers but I can’t get over the fact that this show essentially turns Will Graham into Lois Lane. You thought Kevin Bacon’s FBI agent was dumb? Wait until you get a load of the guy who spent several years in the company of one of America’s most prolific serial killers and never guessed the truth, despite apparently possessing some sort of gift which helps him track such people.

I hope Bryan Singer proves me wrong about this.

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I’ll be watching this show due to my interest in fictional serial killers but I can’t get over the fact that this show essentially turns Will Graham into Lois Lane. You thought Kevin Bacon’s FBI agent was dumb? Wait until you get a load of the guy who spent several years in the company of one of America’s most prolific serial killers and never guessed the truth, despite apparently possessing some sort of gift which helps him track such people.

I hope Bryan Singer proves me wrong about this.


I assume you mean Fuller?  As soon as I read "Singer" my interest dropped a notch and I had to try and confirm.  Are they both involved or just a slip?  (please be a slip, please, please)

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