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Gun Control thread
There would have to be some kind of will to go after the gun manufacturers themselves, but the NRA does it's job too well as a lightning rod.
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Remind me again what the NRA does? This guy is doing a terrible Nelson Muntz impression to make of fun of black athletes silently protesting because of the NFL's latest policy changes:

https://twitter.com/NRATV/status/999454723043291138
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Gun ends up stuck inside car fender

We may have too many guns. They are just flying around our highways, getting imbeded in cars.
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(05-22-2018, 11:30 AM)ryoken Wrote: At this point, the USA will see Gun Control evolve only if:

A)There is a shooting inside the actual Congress
B)There is a shooting in a private school that several sons and daughters or politicians attend.
C)There is a shooting at an NRA convention

I do not wish any of these scenarios to ever, ever become a reality, but they are the only ones that might make these fuckers change their minds.

They do not care when they happen in malls, high schools, elementary schools, kindergardens, military bases or anywhere else.

There are signs of change at the state level.

A Democratic Congress would certainly implement at least minor changes in the sane direction. I have no doubt that Drumpf would happily sign a gun control bill even if his base hated it.

We're just beginning a time where more and more people seem to be standing up to the NRA and rejecting the narrative that gun control is anti-American. It's going to take a long time (like a generation of new Supreme Court justices) to see a dramatic change. But public opinion is finally moving in the correct direction, and that's a start. It's just going to be a long process, where any let-up will allow things to slide back towards the NRA's vision.
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The NRA wants Congress to pass legislation that limits the ways in which news outlets report on mass shootings:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NRATV/status/...5333147650
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I have no clue what made Sen. John Cornyn think it wise to post this piece on the shooter to his Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/JohnCornyn/status/99...1049481218
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A friend of mine is a teacher at this school:

https://apnews.com/3054e67879c740fdb3d5c...ce=Twitter
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Well, at least video games are getting a break:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dia...80ede65?19

Quote:Does anyone know what kind of porn Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) is watching?

Whatever it is, the 67-year-old Black, who is running for governor of Tennessee, said it’s a “big part” of what is driving the spike in school shootings.

During a meeting last week with local pastors, Black raised the issue of gun violence in schools and why it keeps happening.

“Pornography,” she said.

“It’s available on the shelf when you walk in the grocery store. Yeah, you have to reach up to get it, but there’s pornography there,” she continued. “All of this is available without parental guidance. I think that is a big part of the root cause.”
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After getting dunked on in court, Kris Kobach is now upsetting parade onlookers for participating while riding a Jeep with a replica machine gun fixated to it.  No one knew it was a replica, of course:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/kans...itter_abcn
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(06-03-2018, 11:56 AM)Iron Maiden Wrote: After getting dunked on in court, Kris Kobach is now upsetting parade onlookers for participating while riding a Jeep with a replica machine gun fixated to it.  No one knew it was a replica, of course:

White Privilege is being able to pull this kind of shit without the risk of potentially being gunned down by law enforcement or a ‘concerned citizen’.
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When the NRA isn’t calling David Hogg and his fellow students terrorists, it’s inviting people on its show to call him “twig arms.” Such discourse! 

https://mobile.twitter.com/KaitMarieox/s...0026756096

   

Is it possible for rational people to be invoked in the NRA at this point?
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Hey! I totally called that girl ending up on NRA TV when she pulled her stunt a couple weeks ago.
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Well of course she did since she ticks all the boxes for appealing to the NRA's prime demographic.
Originally Posted by ImmortanNick 

Saw Batman v Superman.
Now I know what it's like to see Nickelback in concert.

That's my review.
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always bums me out that they got Killer Mike on the show.

Come on, man--you're better than that.


oh man, "twig arms," ah dude. Burning a school shooting survivor. such a savage.
 I think all Marvel films are okay. This is my design.

Except for Thor 2: the literal worst.
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Adam Putnam is a Republican running for governor in Florida and the state's Agriculture Commissioner.  He often touts how easy he's made it to get permits.  Well, he might have made it a little too easy....

http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics...nt-log-in/

Quote:For more than a year, the state of Florida failed to conduct national background checks on tens of thousands of applications for concealed weapons permits, potentially allowing drug addicts or people with a mental illness to carry firearms in public.

A previously unreported Office of Inspector General investigation found that in February 2016 the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services stopped using a FBI crime database called the National Instant Criminal Background Check System that ensures applicants who want to carry a gun do not have a disqualifying history in other states.

The employee in charge of the background checks could not log into the system, the investigator learned. The problem went unresolved until discovered by another worker in March 2017 — meaning that for more than a year applications got approved without the required background check.

During that time, which coincided with the June 12, 2016 shooting at Pulse nightclub that left 50 dead, the state saw an unprecedented spike in applications for concealed weapons permits. There were 134,000 requests for permits in the fiscal year ending in June 2015. The next 12 months broke a record, 245,000 applications, which was topped again in 2017 when the department received 275,000 applications.

Department employees interviewed for the report called the NICS checks "extremely important." Concealed weapons licenses "may have been issued to potentially ineligible individuals." If it came out they weren't conducted, "this could cause an embarrassment to the agency," the report said.

Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam has made it a priority to speed up the issuing of concealed weapons permits since he was elected in 2010. In 2012, he held a news conference to celebrate the state's one millionth concealed weapons permit, noting the time it took to process an application fell from 12 weeks to 35 days on his watch. There are now 1.8 million concealed weapon permit holders in Florida.

Now running for Florida governor as a Republican, Putnam's campaign touts his expansion of concealed carry permits as one of his top accomplishments.
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WTF?  I can't tell if they were hacked or this is legit.  We live in the weirdest possible timeline.

   
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550 guns is probably too many for one person to have.

It's never gets talked about but I would support legislation that limits the number of guns that an individual can own. There's no reason to stockpile this many guns. It just increases the chance that some are going to go missing. The county limits how many cats I can have, why not firearms?
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Nah, those weren't *his* guns . . . I'm sure the guy was doing some real shady shit.
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(06-19-2018, 02:02 PM)JMurdoch Wrote: 550 guns is probably too many for one person to have.

Is it though?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ByRosenberg/s...9642967041


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Shooter's a white male, in his 20s, no id per police.

https://twitter.com/kathrynw5/status/101...6308794369
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No wonder he's still alive.
Originally Posted by ImmortanNick 

Saw Batman v Superman.
Now I know what it's like to see Nickelback in concert.

That's my review.
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New gun law coming to Seattle:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new...attle-law/

Quote:Seattle will require gun owners to lock up their firearms, after the City Council voted unanimously Monday to pass legislation proposed by Mayor Jenny Durkan.

Starting 180 days after Durkan signs the legislation, it will be a civil infraction to store a gun without the firearm being secured in a locked container.

The legislation will apply only to guns kept somewhere, rather than those carried by or under the control of their owners.

Also under the legislation, it will be a civil infraction when an owner knows or should know that a minor, “at-risk person” or unauthorized user is likely to access a gun and such a person actually does access the weapon.

The legislation allows fines up to $500 when a gun isn’t locked up, up to $1,000 when a prohibited person accesses a firearm and up to $10,000 when a prohibited person uses the weapon to hurt someone or commit a crime.
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That Seattle gun storage law sounds very reasonable to me.
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(07-10-2018, 01:18 PM)JMurdoch Wrote: That Seattle gun storage law sounds very reasonable to me.

Somewhere in the White House, DJT is asking: "...why can't I pardon that stupid law?"
I used to be with "it", but then they changed what "it" was. Now, what I'm with isn't "it", and what's "it" seems weird and scary to me. -Grandpa Simpson
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Utah police don’t plan to press charges against the person who left a loaded handgun inside a bathroom of a kids aquarium, but they do want to return it to the owner:

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/07/11/u...-visitors/

Hmm, seems like some sort of punishment would make sense.
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This story's pretty wild:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...790288002/

Quote:A big crowd gathered in a Tucson church last week, ready to hear candidates' plans for gun-control legislation from people vying to become lawmakers at the Arizona state Capitol. 

All was going more or less as expected. Then, it was Bobby Wilson's turn to speak.

Wilson, one of two Republican candidates who attended the July 9 meeting, took the mic and told a story of how he shot and killed a crazed attacker in an act of self-defense while a teenager.

That attacker, it turned out, was his mother.

He said his life story illustrates the importance of having "a good guy there with a gun" rather than gun-control legislation.

There's more to this story, as you might expect:

Quote:Court records and newspaper articles from the time suggest there may be more to the story than Wilson's account.

Those records show he was charged with the murder of his mother and sister, and soon after his arrest he confessed to those charges. He later recanted his confession and claimed he had amnesia about the events of the night in question.

The charges against him ultimately were dismissed by an Oklahoma judge.

Much more at the link.
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You take this one of two ways:

1. If he's lying, then holy goddamn shit what a complete sociopath. Murdering his own mother and sister and then using that event years later as political fodder is so fucked up.

That being said, I'm more likely believe that:

2. That following the deaths of both his mother and sister, was in such traumatic state that all he needed was a little push to "admit his own guilt." I can buy that he was no where near the right emotional state to recount what had happened to him and might have been taken advantage of. Perhaps the cops just thought this was an open and shut case.

WITH THAT SAID:
Even if the story Wilson is telling is true, it pretty much serves to undermine his entire point. Unless he's trying to argue that his mother was the devil incarnate, odds are she probably was a proud gun owner just like her son and, if you asked her, probably would have said the same thing: I am a good guy with a gun. Except that night she wasn't, and something happened that made her snap and made her try to kill her own children. If anything, his story is all about how necessary gun control actually is. Because why did she have access to a gun if she was clearly mentally ill? Are we really going to argue that even if there were strict gun control laws in place, that a housewife would go through the trouble of illegally obtaining a weapon just to murder her own son?

What happens if the good guy becomes the bad guy?
 I think all Marvel films are okay. This is my design.

Except for Thor 2: the literal worst.
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I didn't catch Vice last night, but the Parkland students' bus is being tailed by gun-right activists traveling in an armored vehicle:

https://twitter.com/vicenews/status/1019689335338209281


Quote:Parkland students have been traveling around the country this summer on a bus tour to push for anti-gun legislation. Now they're now being tailed by a group of gun-rights activists traveling in a military-style armored vehicle. 
 
No word yet on how many Russians are traveling inside the armored vehicle.
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The guy who wants to put blueprints for printable AR-15’s online for free just won his case.

There’s no going back now. Everything is fucked.
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I'm a bit mixed on that one. From what I gather they don't work that well, or for very long. Also I don't think people realise that the status of being on the internet and the equipment necessary to make such a thing arguably makes it easier to track than a normal gun, should the government desire such a thing. In some ways it even softens the usual argument of defense against government overreach. That angle is usually a cop out to begin with "I don't like what the gov'mint is doing, but at least I got my gun! Riots, shootings, high crimes and misdemeanours, the cops looks like the army, but still got my gun!". Now it's one step removed. "I sold my gun for food, but if I really need one to fight the government I can always print one out. US of A, safe and secure with amendment number two. Praise the lord"

Could be complicated outside the US, but I don't know. Maybe I'm not worried enough.
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I don't get it... so you can 3d print it? Build it yourself? Couldn't anyone interested enough to build an AR 15 just buy it? I guess some kid could build it but it seems kids can get guns easy enough in the states.
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(07-19-2018, 01:08 PM)Munson Wrote: I don't get it... so you can 3d print it? Build it yourself? Couldn't anyone interested enough to build an AR 15 just buy it? I guess some kid could build it but it seems kids can get guns easy enough in the states.

I think the point of contention may be the lack of serial number and ballistics information on file with the FBI where "printed" guns are concerned.
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Don't worry, guys, I'm sure Overlord will come in here to tell us all about why this is a good thing.
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The father of two Parkland shooting survivors was fatally shot at his convenience store:

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Fath...36961.html

Quote:The father of two Parkland school shooting survivors was fatally shot at his own North Lauderdale convenience store during a robbery, according to the Broward County Sheriff's Office.

Ayub Ali, a father of four, died Tuesday. Just five months prior, his son and daughter survived the mass shooting that killed 17 and injured 17 others at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

According to a BSO report, Lauderdale Lakes BSO deputies and Tamarac Fire Rescue paramedics found the injured 61-year-old store clerk when they arrived at Aunt Molly's Food Store, located at 1691 S. State Road. Ali was transported to Fort Lauderdale's Broward Health Medical Center where he was pronounced dead.

The suspect forced Ali to his store's back office, where he was shot.
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