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Fox News - this is not satire

Gretchen Carlson taped conversations with Ailes:



https://www.yahoo.com/tv/gretchen-carlso...21098.html

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Quote:“I think you and I should have had a sexual relationship a long time ago, and then you’d be good and better and I’d be good and better,” Ailes said, according to the article.
...the hell kind of a pickup line is that, anyway? I've met inanimate objects that were better at talking dirty.
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Originally Posted by commodorejohn View Post


...the hell kind of a pickup line is that, anyway? I've met inanimate objects that were better at talking dirty.


The kind you develop when you've been rich enough to simply coerce women into sex for decades.

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I'm not through with this super-detailed article, but I wanted to share it anyway:



http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...ymag_press





Kelly actually wondered if the Trump campaign tried to poison her.  That's how low this election season is.

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This cycle has really truly depressed me, because it has exposed the usual right wing piece of shit suspects into even worse versions of themselves.  I have lost so much respect for John McCaine.

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More birds leaving (getting kicked out of ?) the nest....



Greta Van Susteren abruptly leaves Fox News

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Heard on the radio this morning that Carlson settled for $20 million.  Thought it was strange that the exact figure would be made public, but anything that embarrasses Ailes and co. puts a smile on my face.

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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post
 

More birds leaving (getting kicked out of ?) the nest....



Greta Van Susteren abruptly leaves Fox News



"A source close to the situation said it was a financial disagreement that led to Van Susteren's departure."




Did they welch on the previously agreed upon price for Ailes touch her boobs?

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Van Susteren's departure was a bit icier than was originally thought:



https://www.yahoo.com/news/greta-van-sus...00368.html

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A[quote name="Iron Maiden" url="/community/t/149438/fox-news-this-is-not-satire/100#post_4128926"]Andrea Tantaros would like Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly to take lie detector tests:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/andrea-tantaros-wants-ailes-bill-o%e2%80%99reilly-to-take-%e2%80%98lie-detector-test-challenge%e2%80%99/ar-AAieIH9?li=BBnbcA1
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She does realize that Lie Detector tests are not the fool proof tools you've seen in the CSI shows, right my dear?
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AI can see Bill O'Reilly using the George Costanza logic of its not a lie if you believe it.
I've got good news and I've got bad news. The bad news is that I have lost my way. The good news is that I'm way ahead of schedule.
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A[quote name="Freeman" url="/community/t/149438/fox-news-this-is-not-satire/100#post_4132703"]
She does realize that Lie Detector tests are not the fool proof tools you've seen in the CSI shows, right my dear?[/quote]

She knows their powers to influence perception, and since there's no way the old boys'll risk it, daring them only helps the perception of her claims. It's savvy, even if one were completely skeptical of her claims.
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A[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwoGrDa5g2c[/VIDEO]

Oh, glorious.
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AHere's everyone at Fox who defended Ailes as Carlson's lawsuit became known:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/...p=cur&_r=0
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Van Susteren has commented on Ailes:



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ATranslation: "I regret that our lying and general scumfuckery ricocheted in-house."

I award her no points.
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O'Reilly is claiming that he never defended Ailes, despite the fact that he did:



https://mediamatters.org/video/2016/09/1...ons/213027

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Ailes' final days at Fox News examined:



http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/09/r...al_twitter



Ailes was very upset that Megyn Kelly refused to defend him on air.  He wanted Fox to issue a press release, but opted to have Breitbart say shit instead.

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Methinks that Fox News will be just as friendly to old and scared white people as it was before.

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Here's Bill O'Reilly claiming not to know what's in Megyn Kelly's new book, but, then, getting very angry about the idea of making Fox News look bad:



https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/7...1950327808



It's pretty unhinged.



He's also not sure if Kelly will be on the show, which likely sums up their business relationship nowadays.

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O'Reilly continuing his attack on Megyn Kelly for telling the truth about Ailes:



http://www.mediaite.com/tv/oreilly-conti...-employer/

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Ailes would like an apology for being called a "gropey old man."



http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ro...s-headline

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If Bill O'Reilly's show tonight is any indication, Fox has said "goodbye and fuck you" to dogwhistles and has now broken out the megaphones.



https://twitter.com/deray/status/811403187999612928

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Bill O'Reilly is one of the many reasons I don't believe in karma.

I've got good news and I've got bad news. The bad news is that I have lost my way. The good news is that I'm way ahead of schedule.
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AHoly fuck.
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ATo paraphrase Porthos,

It may be time for blood in the streets.
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Trump just went through a year and half of racism and misogyny, and he was rewarded for it.  Our power structure is about to have a guy at the top who thinks Hispanic judges cannot fairly adjudicate cases involving white people, and O'Reilly's crowd is mostly cool with that.  O'Reilly simply has no reason to hold back his true feelings anymore.  There is no incentive out there for him to pretend that minorities are on equal footing, so he's inclined to ring the bell that the white power structure is under attack.  Yes, the left will criticize him - and so will a few Republicans, frankly - but we now live in a world where true outrage happens every week and people either don't care or quickly forget and move on to the next thing.  I mean, O'Reilly just talked about how "well-fed" slaves were over the summer, and nothing happened.  He kept silent when Roger Ailes joined the Trump campaign because it would make his network look bad, and nothing happened.  He practically coached Trump in their interviews, and he got the outcome he wanted.  Nothing will happen now.



The Republican Party won, so I don't exactly expect many reflections from them, but only so many of them really handled themselves well this year.

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A[quote name="Iron Maiden" url="/community/t/149438/fox-news-this-is-not-satire/120#post_4193479"]Trump just went through a year and half of racism and misogyny, and he was rewarded for it.  Our power structure is about to have a guy at the top who thinks Hispanic judges cannot fairly adjudicate cases involving white people, and O'Reilly's crowd is mostly cool with that.  O'Reilly simply has no reason to hold back his true feelings anymore.  There is no incentive out there for him to pretend that minorities are on equal footing, so he's inclined to ring the bell that the white power structure is under attack.  Yes, the left will criticize him - and so will a few Republicans, frankly - but we now live in a world where true outrage happens every week and people either don't care or quickly forget and move on to the next thing.  I mean, O'Reilly just talked about how "well-fed" slaves were over the summer, and nothing happened.  He kept silent when Roger Ailes joined the Trump campaign because it would make his network look bad, and nothing happened.  He practically coached Trump in their interviews, and he got the outcome he wanted.  Nothing will happen now. 

The Republican Party won, so I don't exactly expect many reflections from them, but only so many of them really handled themselves well this year.
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Where's Brother Malcolm when we need him.

If there's one lesson we've learned from the last decade, it's that rational, fact-based argument and repeated attempts to "be the bigger person" results in the Bad
Guys winning. Moral superiority means less than nothing if it leads to an outcome that's morally absent.

The Axis weren't defeated because we didn't 'stoop to their level,' they were defeated because we bombed them into oblivion.

Given the apathy of the average American, who watched 20+ children get mowed down with automatic weapons and still couldn't mobilize for simple background checks, a lot of people are going to have to die for there to be meaningful change. Maybe that's in more misspent wars abroad, maybe it's in more domestic attacks at home, maybe it's in violent protests. But this shit isn't going to change until the average person FEELS their lives being affected.
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The Axis weren't defeated because we didn't 'stoop to their level,' they were defeated because we bombed them into oblivion.


The Axis also weren't defeated because we stuck enough Japanese-Americans in camps and exterminated more Jews.  You have to fight hard to win, but that doesn't mean every tactic of the enemy is fair game.

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A[quote name="Schwartz" url="/community/t/149438/fox-news-this-is-not-satire/120#post_4193656"]
The Axis also weren't defeated because we stuck enough Japanese-Americans in camps and exterminated more Jews.  You have to fight hard to win, but that doesn't mean every tactic of the enemy is fair game.
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Certainly not.

But "Talk politely and use facts and they'll go away" has turned out to be the worst strategy possible.
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A[quote name="Dent6084" url="/community/t/149438/fox-news-this-is-not-satire/120#post_4193442"]If Bill O'Reilly's show tonight is any indication, Fox has said "goodbye and fuck you" to dogwhistles and has now broken out the megaphones.

https://twitter.com/deray/status/811403187999612928
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This is not exactly accurate. Professional windbag O'Reilly was referring to what the Liberals define as the White Establishment, it was not his reference.

This is the problem with how we consume media now... one screenshot is all it takes to misinterpret. I don't like the guy, but he really wasn't being that much of an overt racist asshole. He was just at his regular, normal levels.
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Originally Posted by neil spurn View Post


This is not exactly accurate. Professional windbag O'Reilly was referring to what the Liberals define as the White Establishment, it was not his reference.

This is the problem with how we consume media now... one screenshot is all it takes to misinterpret. I don't like the guy, but he really wasn't being that much of an overt racist asshole. He was just at his regular, normal levels.


I see this as Oreilly's/Fox's opinion about what 'liberals' think. He is the one attempting to define what the liberal point of view is...and it's bullshit.



He's playing up to his base, which is almost entirely older white folk. It's nothing more than a scare tactic...like one he and Fox have used time and time again.


Here's the video-  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0PFOgLHSVw

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AIt's strange that suddenly everyone's now noticing racists are openly being racist. Yeah, it was all hidden over the last eight years. The Tea Party, Birther movement, George Zimmerman, All Lives Matter, etc. -- none of these things made any headlines.
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It's strange that suddenly everyone's now noticing racists are openly being racist. Yeah, it was all hidden over the last eight years. The Tea Party, Birther movement, George Zimmerman, All Lives Matter, etc. -- none of these things made any headlines.

Yeah, but because they didn't just explicitly say "KILL ALL <INSERT GROUP HERE>!" they retained plausible deniability. Because OBVIOUSLY you can only be racist if you openly say the most vile and horrible things possible, and not just hiding behind insinuations. In fact at this point I'm not sure you can even be racist then. We may have reached the point where you actually have to act on it rather than just spewing rhetoric before at least one side of the political spectrum will say "OK, yeah, that's racist."

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Teen Vogue​, of all places, has been writing interesting op-eds on Trump, including one about gaslighting.  Tucker Carlson decided to have the writer, Lauren Duca, on his new show.  Carlson was his snotty self, but Duca got the better of him.  I don't think Carlson's show is about to be cancelled or anything (CNN might suck, but it still has more morals than Fox), but Duca rocks it here:



http://www.mediaite.com/online/teen-vogu...isan-hack/



To be fair, Carlson didn't once say that Duca had "dick-fright" or wonder aloud if she ever had a pearl necklace, so, I guess, that makes him the best of the Carlson siblings:



https://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/tucke....ykezK039q

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