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Misogyny and the discrimination and abuse of women in the US and around the world
So, uh... this sounds completely and totally deranged:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-roe...omi-lahren

"THR’s piece also cast the filmmakers as victims, detailing their struggles to secure filming locations and keep ahold of cast and crew who objected to the “PG-rated” film’s “pro-life tilt”—a particularly hot-button issue in light of Justice Kennedy’s recently-announced retirement and the precarious state of Roe v. Wade.  

What the THR piece failed to disclose is why the cast and crew of Roe v. Wade have been dropping like flies out of the project, as well as the project's true nature—including several graphic scenes depicting aborted fetuses, according to several crew members who spoke to The Daily Beast on the condition of anonymity, fearing reprisals."
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"Conservative actors Stephen Baldwin and Kevin Sorbo were initially cast as Supreme Court justices but left upon receiving the script."

When your right-wing flick makes The Weird-looking Baldwin and Hercules back away, that's saying something.
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Hey, I just found out there’s a subset of incels who...I can’t even type “believe”

CLAIM to believe that they don’t have girlfriends because the children destined to grow up and become those girlfriends were victims of wanton abortions.

I keep thinking we’ve hit the bottom of the barrel but there’s another barrel beneath the barrel and it’s well past sell-by date.
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NPR covered a new book about soccer/football and somehow managed to both omit the co-author's remarks and that there was a co-author.

The omitted author was a woman.

https://work.qz.com/1326146/nprs-all-thi...ts-erased/
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(07-13-2018, 06:43 AM)lightning slim Wrote: Hey, I just found out there’s a subset of incels who...I can’t even type “believe”

CLAIM to believe that they don’t have girlfriends because the children destined to grow up and become those girlfriends were victims of wanton abortions.

I keep thinking we’ve hit the bottom of the barrel but there’s another barrel beneath the barrel and it’s well past sell-by date.

Part of the "fun" of observing incels is that they're so lost in their delusions, it becomes darkly comedic to see how just how low they're willing to go while also maintaining that they're the victims.

But at the same time: it is low-hanging fruit.  Incels are what--and I can't believe I'm saying this but it's here we are in 2018--Nazis used to be.


Still it's nice knowing that no matter how awful I feel--at least I'm not an Incel.
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https://work.qz.com/1326146/nprs-all-thi...ts-erased/
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(07-13-2018, 08:54 PM)Nooj Wrote: https://work.qz.com/1326146/nprs-all-thi...ts-erased/

Goddammit, nooj!
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The fact that NPR did this does make it perfect.
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It was a bit of a toss-up where to post this but I haven't seen any discussion of Hannah Gadsby's Nanette show around here yet
It could go here, or the LGBT thread, or the Netflix thread(s), I dunno. Can't put it in the humour sub since that is home to only sports news spam these days.

Anyhow, it's a stand up comedy routine that's made a bit of a splash and anytime an Australian makes it overseas we must lavish them with attention.

The thing you'll read about it a lot is it's fairly hard hitting and serious at times, with a meta comedy analysis from a feminist lesbian perspective (and art history, believe it or not).

If you're a bit of a comedy connoisseur I would recommend not taking the hype too seriously. A lot of outlets are calling it a "revolution in comedy" and things like that. Which it isn't. Often emotional social commentary and personal stories have been a part of the genre since the very start. I found it to be good at what it does though - which is the lighter sort of good natured humour taking you on a kind of dark journey about why she uses that sort of humour in the first place. It's really interesting.

That might sound like faint praise, but I don't want any passing dudes to run off with the brewskis expecting some stinging givenofucks gut buster. It's stinging, but not quite in the usual way.

An article to make the post worthwhile

http://junkee.com/hannah-gadsby-nanette-project/168201
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Nanette is amazing and should be required viewing for everyone on the planet.
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I don't have the words for this story.  Geez.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world...india.html

Quote:For months, the police say, a group of men took turns raping an 11-year-old girl.

In the gated community in Chennai, India, where the girl lived with her parents, the men gave her soft drinks laced with drugs, the police said. They filmed themselves raping her, brandishing knives and threatening to release the videos if the girl told her family, the police said.

The men were not intruders in the gated community, but employees who greeted residents, operated the elevator or brought water coolers to apartments.

When news broke on Monday that the authorities in Chennai, a coastal city in the southeast, had arrested 17 men accused of raping or molesting the girl over a period of seven months, chaos erupted at the complex in an older part of the city. Residents dismissed the building’s remaining staff members. Women volunteered to guard the complex’s entrances, and some called for the suspects to be hanged.

Indian television channels ran lengthy news segments with banner headlines that read, simply, “Chennai Horror.”

“This story has shaken me to the core,” Rohini Singh, an Indian journalist, wrote on Twitter. “An entire community got together to rape a child. I cannot even fathom the depravity and horror of this act.”

This has been a year punctuated by brutal crimes against young girls in India. In January, an 8-year-old was kidnapped, locked in a Hindu temple, gang raped and beaten to death. In May, a teenager in central India was set on fire after her parents told a village council that men in the area had raped their daughter. In June, a 7-year-old was raped in the state of Madhya Pradesh, also in central India. Afterward, the two men slit her throat and left her to die.
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India has fucking issues. Like, every country does, especially in regards to how they treat women.

But that's just downright barbaric, and it seems to be happening more and more over there.

Also: In that very same article....this crime caused so much outrage that a group of lawyers stomped the group of men and refused to represent them

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/101917905...5262843%2F


I recognize how ignorant my comments come off since I do recognize that this doesn't represent all of India and I don't know about India culture, but man....It kind of makes me sick to my stomach.
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From the outside you seem to be right though. It's like how as soon as feminism gets loud in the west there's a whole masculinist backlash. In India you get the more extreme version. As women's rights movements start to gain traction you see this vicious acting out by men, including things like rape punishment gangs and the like.
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(07-19-2018, 09:40 AM)ska oreo Wrote: India has fucking issues.  Like, every country does, especially in regards to how they treat women.

But that's just downright barbaric, and it seems to be happening more and more over there.  

Also: In that very same article....this crime caused so much outrage that a group of lawyers stomped the group of men and refused to represent them

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/101917905...5262843%2F


I recognize how ignorant my comments come off since I do recognize that this doesn't represent all of India and I don't know about India culture, but man....It kind of makes me sick to my stomach.

I'll admit, the first article made me wonder:  Is it really a growing problem in India or is it sensationalized by western Media?  It isn't as if similar crimes don't happen in the US.  I don't mean this as whataboutism, but with India it's presented as a fundamental problem with their culture while in the US if a child gets gang-raped it's never even dared to be suggested that there's a cultural problem (unless of course the perpetrators were of a certain skin tone or national origin in which case it's dogwhistled all to hell).

I don't know the actual per-capita rates, so my question is basically:  Is India really worse than say, the US when it comes to this stuff, or is it just presented like they are?
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(07-19-2018, 01:23 PM)jmacq1 Wrote: Is India really worse than say, the US when it comes to this stuff, or is it just presented like they are?

Being of Indian descent, it sickens me to hear this horrible story about this poor girl and the constant troubling stories of women being mistreated. What those animals did does no represent me or many other Indian men.

I never actually LIVED in India though, as I was born and raised in America, so I can't give accurate statistics. From what I can gather, it has always been an issue, but it's only been recently - mainly after the horrific Delhi gang rape of 2012 - that the authorities have taken steps to curb this stuff.

There are many Indian men who respect women (it's a country with many female deities after all), but there's a LOT who need to smacked with basic civility. For proof, see the recent situation where many Indian male commentators slut-shamed a Bollywood actress after she did a nude scene.
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"Or whatever she is."

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ale...3c76718?15

Quote:Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) on Saturday referred to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a New York Democratic congressional nominee who is seen as a rising star in her party, as “this girl Ocasio-Cortez or whatever she is.”

DeSantis, who is running for governor and has the support of President Donald Trump, made his remarks during a campaign event in Orange Park, Florida.

“You look at this girl Ocasio-Cortez or whatever she is, I mean, she’s in a totally different universe,” he said to laughs. “It’s basically socialism wrapped in ignorance.”
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This story's fucked:

https://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/201...reddit.com

Quote:Five members of an Amite family were accused in federal court Thursday (July 26) of kidnapping and holding a 22-year-old autistic relative captive for roughly 10 months, padlocked in a shed and then in a makeshift backyard cage, and subjecting her to a range of humiliations and abuse that included shooting her with a BB gun, covering her with the contents of the family's septic tank and forcing her to eat her recently deceased mother's cremated remains from a cereal bowl.

The family, often at the direction of 42-year-old matriarch Raylaine Knope, also withheld the victim's Social Security benefits and forced her to perform house work and yard work with no compensation and, often, in a demeaning manner. They also ordered her to make sexual advances to several men in a sex-trafficking scheme, the indictment alleges.

If there's a hell, I hope they find the bottom.
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Jesus Christ, that's one of the most horrifying and evil things I've heard in a long while. I hope the girl gets a lot of help, and those scum spend the rest of their breathing days in the coldest and dirtiest prison cells they can find for them.
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Seriously. And of course it's in Louisiana.

How do you not have a single ounce of empathy for another human being that you're willing to be that cruel?
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Some people really do need killin. Anyone who would do something like that. Or let it continue. Or allow the raping of an 11 year old girl go to the point that she's being raped by SEVENTEEN people. Fuck em. Bury em..
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Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand took a stand against Al Franken's behavior.  Certain Democratic donors are sour about it to the point where they'll never support her again:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kir...945e79?ugl

Quote:But Gillibrand has received the brunt of the blame for what happened, with many of her detractors saying the reason she came out against Franken was that she’s an “opportunist” who was positioning herself for a presidential run in 2020. Some Democratic Party donors have been reconsidering whether they would support her in a primary.

Most prominently, Gillibrand has attracted the ire of billionaire George Soros, who has long funded Democratic candidates and causes. Soros recently said he wasn’t sure whom he was supporting for 2020, but that it absolutely wouldn’t be Gillibrand. He accused her of going after Franken, “whom I admire,” to “improve her chances” for president.

“If standing up for women who have been wronged makes George Soros mad, that’s on him,” Gillibrand said in a statement to HuffPost. “But I won’t hesitate to always do what I think is right. For nearly a year, we have seen countless acts of courage as women and men have spoken hard truths about sexual assault and sexual harassment and demanded accountability.”

Plenty of shitty quotes to go around:

Quote:Many of these donors said that either they were unhappy with Gillibrand or knew plenty of people who were. The 2020 race is still years away, but as donors start to shop around, her comments on Clinton and Franken could be a factor. 

“I viewed it as self-serving, as opportunistic ― unforgivable in my view,” said Rosalind Fink, a New York donor. “Since then, I have not purposely attended any fundraiser where she was there. And there is absolutely no way I will support her.” 

Fink said she condemned Franken’s behavior, but she believed the Senate should have investigated the allegations thoroughly before forcing him out. 

“I think it was a big mistake,” said Irene Finel Honigman, another Clinton donor from New York, adding, “I was not that impressed with her to begin with. I think she certainly had potential, but as for many people, this kind of sealed the deal.” 

Another donor, who like many others asked to remain anonymous in order to speak candidly, called Gillibrand a “ruthless opportunist.”

“That’s the knock on her, and that’s what this proved,” he said. “She saw an opportunity to be out front, and regardless of the ramifications, she took it.” 

Susie Tompkins Buell, a major Democratic Party donor who has championed female politicians, also said she was reconsidering her support for senators who called for Franken to resign.

And:

Quote:ill Farber Bramson, a Democratic donor and activist in Michigan, said she knew a number of women ― who tended to be older ― who were deeply disappointed when Gillibrand spoke out against Franken. 

“They had always really liked Kirsten Gillibrand very much,” she said. “They really respected her. ... They were just devastated that she pushed, they felt, all too hard and all too soon to have him resign.”
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Well... I tend to agree with them. There were three available methods to deal with Franken:

1) Senate investigation.

2) Let his voters decide next election.

3) Privately pressure him.

She chose #4: Fan the public outrage fires and help disingenuous right-wing liars paint his actions as the same as their own pedophiles and criminals.

But most importantly, donating is a choice not an obligation, so I don't see what the controversy is.
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Tokyo Medical University just got caught rigging its application process by lowering women's entrance exam scores in order to keep the student body 70% male.
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(08-02-2018, 06:34 PM)Reasor Wrote: Tokyo Medical University just got caught rigging its application process by lowering women's entrance exam scores in order to keep the student body 70% male.

Ouch. I won't deny there is a culture in Japan that once a woman marries and starts a family she stays at home and essentially manages the house and the finances, they almost *never* re-enter the working environment like is the expectation in the West.

But yeah, this is a chicken and an egg scenario where because there is a shortage of Doctors in Japan they are influencing into the system the ones they feel will stay around and not quit... but this kind of policy won't encourage the cultural change to stop that happening in the first place... and it's also something that HAS to change. Japan is undergoing a huge demographic crisis and they've got to keep skilled people in the workforce.
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This will be a case where a lot of pressure comes from on high to hold someone accountable, I think. It's now an international black eye on Japan. BBC's reporting on it.
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(08-02-2018, 08:26 PM)flint Wrote:
(08-02-2018, 06:34 PM)Reasor Wrote: Tokyo Medical University just got caught rigging its application process by lowering women's entrance exam scores in order to keep the student body 70% male.

Ouch. I won't deny there is a culture in Japan that once a woman marries and starts a family she stays at home and essentially manages the house and the finances, they almost *never* re-enter the working environment like is the expectation in the West.

But yeah, this is a chicken and an egg scenario where because there is a shortage of Doctors in Japan they are influencing into the system the ones they feel will stay around and not quit... but this kind of policy won't encourage the cultural change to stop that happening in the first place... and it's also something that HAS to change. Japan is undergoing a huge demographic crisis and they've got to keep skilled people in the workforce.

I imagine they believe that if they have enough women discouraged from higher learning, they'll stay home and make babies.

But yeah this is a (poorly implemented) bandaid on a long-running problem.  I'd argue that the bigger problem is the stress that are placed on students to succeed.  It seems if they don't make it, either they off themselves or they just go full on NEET.
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Everyone's favorite swimming rapist just lost his appeal:

Quote:Brock Turner, the former Stanford University swimmer convicted on three counts of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman in 2015, lost his appeal Wednesday.

Turner’s case drew international attention in 2016 after Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge Aaron Persky sentenced the former student to six months in county jail, and critics condemned the sentence as a wrist slap. Stanford Law Professor Michele Dauber gathered nearly 100,000 signatures in support of a ballot measure to recall Persky, and in June he became the first California judge in 86 years to be voted out of office, with 60 percent of the vote against him.

Meanwhile, Turner tried to overturn the convictions, arguing there was no evidence to support them. A three-judge panel at the state Court of Appeal disagreed.

https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Bro...um=twitter
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Did he think that overturning the conviction would mean that he could be Googled and literally every search result wouldn't be about what he did?

You're not going to find a good job, kid. You're done.
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(08-08-2018, 08:26 PM)bradito Wrote: Did he think that overturning the conviction would mean that he could be Googled and literally every search result wouldn't be about what he did?

You're not going to find a good job, kid. You're done.

On the contrary, I think the Republican political spectrum and conservative "journalism" are both wide open fields, and will embrace this young man with open arms and wallets.

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https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/woman-alle...ena-watch/

   
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https://kotaku.com/inside-the-culture-of...1828165483

Quote:One day, Lacy conducted an experiment: After an idea she really believed in fell flat during a meeting, she asked a male colleague to present the same idea to the same group of people days later. He was skeptical, but she insisted that he give it a shot.

“Lo and behold, the week after that, [he] went in, presented exactly as I did and the whole room was like, ‘Oh my gosh, this is amazing.’ [His] face turned beet red and he had tears in his eyes,” said Lacy. “They just didn’t respect women.”
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Saved-by-snowflake-judge snowflake rapist Brock Turner's appeal was shot down; he's now forced to live as a registered sex offender for life:

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/8...roadlyfbus

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One of those cases where dude needs to shut the fuck up and just take his punishment like a man. You fucked up, just accept it and move on. But these constant appeals; outerintercourse? The fuck?

He’s just digging that grave.
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Sexism and the Marine Corps still go hand-in-hand:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/womans-t...52932.html

Quote:Women have been a part of the Marine Corps for 100 years, but that doesn’t mean the Marines are free of sexism. As a woman’s recent tweet has illustrated, females in the military still face plenty of backlash, no matter how good they are at what they do.

“If you want to know why I’m not re-enlisting, go to the Marine Corps Instagram page and read the comments on ANY picture of a female,” Jessica Casey wrote on Twitter. “Props to the females who want to stay in and prove these comments wrong, but personally it demotivates me,” she added in a second tweet.

A quick visit to the official Instagram page of the Marine Corps demonstrates Casey’s point. On Thursday, the U.S. Marines shared a video on Instagram to mark the 100th anniversary of women being a part of the organization. A number of comments on the post suggest that females are not as capable of fulfilling Marine duties as males are.

“God didn’t create men and women equal. That’s why literally forever men have been fighting the wars. Our bodies are better suited for it,” reads one Instagram comment, in part. “The standards are lower than they have ever been in the history of the Marine Corps,” another comment says.

Another recent post from the Marine Corps Instagram account shows 1st Lt. Marina Hierl, the first woman to become an infantry officer in the Marines. Her words and image should serve as a proud example for Americans of all genders, but there are a number of sexist comments on that post too. 

“Women should not be in the infantry, period. Mixing men and women in combat only detracts from the mission and in the event of a dual casualty who would be saved first regardless of combat effectiveness,” reads a comment on that post, in part. And as with the other post, there are plenty of arguments in the comments section about standards in the Marine Corps.
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