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LEGENDS OF TOMORROW (The CW)
#36
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Originally Posted by felix View Post


Still don't care for Routh's Atom though.





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Originally Posted by Headless Fett View Post
 

He was a better Superman than the new Steelman is.



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#37

So is the other half of Firestorm's actor being difficult and that's why he's not included?



Jesus, that's a weird sentence out of context...



But seriously, part of the fun of a character like that is being a duo.

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#38

I think Robbie Amell had booked another series before this one got under way. I'm really curious how they're going to work around it, since they clearly show Firestorm a few times in the trailer.

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#39
A[quote name="Fafhrd" url="/community/t/153170/legends-of-tomorrow-arrow-flash-spin-off/30#post_3887689"]I think Robbie Amell had booked another series before this one got under way. I'm really curious how they're going to work around it, since they clearly show Firestorm a few times in the trailer.
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I bet he's there for the pilot but remains in the present with Barry and Ollie when the rest of the team jumps through time (probably not entirely voluntary).
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#40

It's so weird to see Arthur Darvill in this, mainly because the CW DC world seems so very American to me, but also because I'm so incredibly used to him a laid-back everyman from Doctor Who. Here, he's a frickin' Time Master.

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#41
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post
 

It's so weird to see Arthur Darvill in this, mainly because the CW DC world seems so very American to me, but also because I'm so incredibly used to him a laid-back everyman from Doctor Who. Here, he's a frickin' Time Master.


Would love it if they take every opportunity to remind us of Darvill's association with Doctor Who. The creators seem to be fans given previous casting choices (John Borrowman, Alex Kingston).



I started watching Arrow a few weeks ago. Between this and The Flash, it looks like I've got something to look forward to. <img src=" src="http://files.chud.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" />

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#42

I fully expect at some point somebody will complain about how cramped his time machine is with everybody in there and he'll fire back with "Were you expecting it to be bigger on the inside?"

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#43

I'm all for Wentworth Miller getting work, but good god. I'd rather pay him to clean out my basement than have this show be his lifesblood.

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#44
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Originally Posted by Kyle Reese View Post
 

I'm all for Wentworth Miller getting work, but good god. I'd rather pay him to clean out my basement than have this show be his lifesblood.


Guess life as Ted Foulke wasn't paying the bills.

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#45
A[quote name="MrSaxon" url="/community/t/153170/legends-of-tomorrow-arrow-flash-spin-off#post_3887779"]It's so weird to see Arthur Darvill in this, mainly because the CW DC world seems so very American to me, but also because I'm so incredibly used to him a laid-back everyman from Doctor Who. Here, he's a frickin' Time Master.
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If Darvill doesn't shout 'Geronimo' at least once I'll eat my pants. If they got Mark Hamill to say 'I am your Father' then they'll make that happen.
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#46

New Trailer is up.



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#47

Joe Dante is directing the eighth episode of the season:



http://www.comicbookresources.com/articl...-hawk-2015



Well, that's incredibly exciting.

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#48

That is awesome news indeed!

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#49

Damn, son!



Actually really looking forward to this.  This news just makes it better.

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#50

At last! The Flash / gremlins team-up I've been wating for all my life!

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#51
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At last! The Flash / gremlins team-up I've been wating for all my life!


Well, now I hope that they bring in Dante to direct the next Trickster episode.  His sense of humor combined with the show's take on the Trickster would be glorious.

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#52

The critics didn't like it.



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 The Los Angeles Times says:


... there is a family-hour charm among the many wooden performances and something to be said for the show's unapologetic comic book overtones. "DC's Legends of Tomorrow" wears its intentions, like its future tech, on its sleeve — you're either in for the ride or you're not, no character deconstruction or cinematic analysis required. …

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:


... an overstuffed paint-by-numbers affair that will test the number of comic book series one network can viably sustain. …

The San Francisco Chronicle says:


... if they want or need to fix the show, casting should be at the top of their to-do list. Most of the actors are acceptable; a couple are not. Ciara Renée is beautiful and may look the part, but her performance is wooden and amateurish. Crump is another weak link as Vandal Savage. He has all the menace of a shopping mall shoe salesman. …

USA Today says:


... There’s so much going on in the big fight scenes that it’s hard to keep track of our heroes, and harder still to figure out why their super-powers seem to have so little effect on the regular mortals around them. But that kind of over-size-itis is not uncommon in opening episodes. …

Variety says:


... certainly impressive from a visual standpoint, with bountiful dollops of action. Yet based on the mix of personalities, this colorful series will have to improve significantly to achieve even near-legendary status. …

The Hollywood Reporter says:


... Legends of Tomorrow can't make its characters jell, can't clarify its narrative mission and can't get out of its own way and stop talking. … by the fifth or sixth episode, Legends of Tomorrow may have found its footing, but as a vehicle to get things moving, this almost couldn't be worse. …
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#53

But did you like it? I am seeing it in a few hours myself.

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#54

I enjoyed it quite a bit. Having a show about a ragtag group of superheroes (plus two bad guys) traveling through time trying to stop an immortal supervillain is just fucking great in my book.

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#55
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But did you like it? I am seeing it in a few hours myself.



I haven't seen it yet. If it gets the Fett seal of approval, I'm sure it's good, though!

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#56
AI enjoyed it, although I do worry it might fall back on the "character who could easily solve this problem conveniently left back on the ship" plot device a little too much.
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#57

I liked it better than a lot of the Arrow eps i've seen this and last season.

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#58

The first half was in hyperdrive in order to get everyone together and get the story set up.  The second half slowed down to give it some time to breath.  I feel this should've been a 90 minute premiere, if not a 2 hour one.



I just like that we have an honest to goddman live action super hero team show on primetime tv.



"Is that a laser gun? :eek: <img src=" src="http://files.chud.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" />"



The one Gorilla Grodd in the room I have to say, is that it didn't at all seem to be friendly to people that have never watched either Flash or Arrow.  I myself don't regularly watch Arrow, so most references to whatever big plot points and storylines this series will have to do with that will fly right over my head.  The whole thing that ATOM mentions about


no one giving a shit when they though he was dead?

  News to me.



But otherwise I enjoyed it.  Buy I'm a sucker for silly super hero stuff.

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#59
ALiked it. Of course I would probably watch Victor Garber and Wentworth Miller reading tax code.

I do hope they don't draw out Savage for the whole run of the show. Get rid of him (for good) in the first season then move on to some other supervillain who discovers time travel ability.
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#60
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The one Gorilla Grodd in the room I have to say, is that it didn't at all seem to be friendly to people that have never watched either Flash or Arrow.  I myself don't regularly watch Arrow, so most references to whatever big plot points and storylines this series will have to do with that will fly right over my head.  The whole thing that ATOM mentions about


no one giving a shit when they though he was dead?

  News to me.



"Somebody killed Tony Stark?"



"No, the other guy."



"Elon Musk?"



"No, the other other guy..."

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#61

I kinda want a version of this show that's just Sara Lance and the Rogues getting into bar fights across history.

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#62

Saw the pilot.  Thought it was incredibly OK.  Certainly better than whatever the fuck happened on Flash last week.  Darvill had a pretty great moment near the end talking about his family.  I really like Rip Hunter despite constantly seeing parallels to Doctor Who.



I'll see where it goes.

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#63

-Man, it sure didn’t take long for Vandal Savage to go from ‘god-like superbeing Barry Allen needs help to take him down’ to ‘stand back, Kendra, I’ve got him on the ropes!’ I’m just saying, it seems a little poorly written to establish him as improbably badass (oh, living for ten thousand years, did you think up a counter for getting punched a million times while you’re still thinking “hey, is that spot on the horizon the Flash”?), then flush that and rely on rules-lawyering to keep him a threat.



Hawkman: Ah ha, we got you, Vandal Savage!



Vandal Savage: Nuh-uh, I have to be killed by either Hawkman or Hawkwoman! Girl! Whichever, like anyone even cares.



Hawkman: Alright, now I’ve killed you, with the special dagger while saying the special incantation!



Vandal Savage: NUH-UH! Shayera has to do it since it’s her knife.



Hawkman: I’m her husband, doesn’t it kinda count as my knife since she’d give it to me without even having to think about it?



Vandal Savage: No! Now die!



Hawkman: Shouldn’t you have to say a haiku or do a little dance or something?



Vandal Savage: No!



Hawkman: Who the fuck set this system up? I thought we had literal Egyptian gods watching our back.



-Not a huge fan, but still a bit disappointed to see Hawkman go. Not only because Smallville already did the ‘reincarnated lovers, but one of them died’ thing, but also because he seemed to inhabit the role a little, give Carter a bit of a personality, while Hawkwomangirl’s actress seems to be of the dull surprise school of acting, to borrow a phrase from MST3K.





Take a shot every time she makes this face.



-Other than that, I liked it. A lot of the hokey, unself-conscious charm of Supergirl without the pretentious “this is an IMPORTANT show about an alien flying around in a skirt” that dragged that down. The characters are, thus far, a bit one-note, but I feel that works for a show that is largely a Claremont X-Men comic book brought to life (let’s face it, most of the Xs are more accents than characters. Why do you think everyone imagines Emma Frost talking with a British accent?).



-Actually, Brandon Rough being a straight-up noble SIlver Age superhero instead of Christian Grey in an Iron Man suit works a lot better. Especially when he’s playing off a ragtag bunch of misfits. Who would’ve guessed the guy had a little Cyclops in ‘im?



-I could see Sara devolving into a kinda “there sure are a bunch of HOT GUYS in this club, and GIRLS, which I’m also into!” Strong Female Character. For a character who’s technically been around since the birth of the CWverse and gotten by far the most backstory and characterization of any of the LOT, she doesn’t seem to get thrown much besides “PARTY HARD!” I mean, she deserves it, but her character should be more than smoking doobies and kung-fu beatdowns.



-Also, how many of the characters are going to be in Must Kill Vandal Savage mode by the end of the season? It could get boring if every character’s motivation becomes a kill-crazy vendetta.



-It’s definitely a waste of time to criticize time travel logic in a comic book show based heavily on the Silver Age with a Doctor Who cast member in it, but--time hardens like cement? So, let’s say Vandal Savage’s scientists figure out Atom’s repulsor jet, but then ten seconds later, the Legends bust in, kill everyone, burn all the notes, et al. Does the ‘exploded Central City 2k16′ future still happen just cuz? Will all the notes to the repulsor jet appear in Vandal Savage’s hands just because the LOT didn’t abide by the ten-second rule?



-Also, did I miss a line where Team Cold specified they weren’t bringing any future technology on the mansion job? Because otherwise, it seems kinda silly they couldn’t just freeze or burn through the cage they were caught in. And if they didn’t have those weapons, they sure seemed to bust them out in a hurry for the big fight scene.

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#64

"Aw, you think I'm se--" "Do NOT finish that sentence."



This was some good fun.  Garber/Lotz and Routh/Miller played off each other really well in their subplots, and the whole opening action sequence at the weapons buy was pretty great (not to mention Stein acting all supervillain and welcome cameo from Neal McDonagh).  Less so everything to do with the Hawks.  Hopefully Renee can establish some personality because, yeah, there's some Dull Surprise going on there and Hawkgirl has the potential to be a lot of fun (though Sara probably fills the SMASHY SMASH role that Hawkgirl had on JLU).

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#65

Really enjoyed this ep. Vastly more than the Arrow eps this season.



Didn't care about Carter dying. He, Hawkgirl and the Rip Hunter were the weak links anyway.

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#66

The show's biggest problem right now is Vandal Savage. He's not that interesting a bad guy, and if Rip on his own can just kill him temporarily, why don't they just stab him, bring his body onto the ship, freeze him, and wait for Hawkgirl to be ready to put him down for good?  Feels like Savage needs a stronger motivation and a power-up quickly to be worthy of facing down the whole team on his own.



Otherwise, this was pretty entertaining.  White Canary and Captain Cold continue to be show MVPs.

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#67

So they just left his body to heal? What the hell was that? Drop him into a volcano at least.

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#68

If he can come back from literally being DUST, he can survive a volcano. Though you're right, at least slow him down a bit!

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#69

I'm enjoying this waaaay more than this season's The Flash. A cast I almost completely like and enjoy seeing interact, female characters that are actually pretty cool (well, Sara at least, who manages to be better than all of the females in The Flash put together), writers who are able to keep the focus on advancing (or at least appearing to advance) the main plot instead of resorting to dull soap opera filler crap, Wentworth Miller continuing to make his villain into a muli-faceted character, Victor Garber selling every scene he's in, and decent action scenes on a regular basis? YES FUCKING PLEASE.

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#70

Gideon.  Bone me.



Wallet swiping.



Romancing Mr. Robot femme fatale.



Wentworth Miller is straight-up STEALING this show.

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