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The Expanse - Syfy

Thank you for the reminder that this starts again tomorrow.

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AIt's one of the small joys I have to look forward to with all the shit happening these days.

I know it's fiction as well, but a future where we hate each other based on what part of the solar system we were born in (not because of our sexual orientation, gender, or the color of our skin) is mildly refreshing.
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AIt's back tomorrow? Yay!

We don't get syfy anymore. Sonofabitch.
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Weirdly, we get it here on Netflix UK but not SyFy UK. (Which is good for me, because I have a subscription with the former and not the latter.)

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AWe recently ditched satellite and went roku and antenna. I'll see if I can find it somewhere.
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A[quote name="MrSaxon" url="/community/t/154886/the-expanse-syfy/100_50#post_4223301"]Weirdly, we get it here on Netflix UK but not SyFy UK. (Which is good for me, because I have a subscription with the former and not the latter.)
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Yeah weirdly here in the US it isn't streaming on Netflix, but it is on Amazon Video.
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IIRC, you could watch individual episodes on the SyFy website.  I know that we caught the last 15 minutes of the season finale on there when our DVR skipped the ending.

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A[quote name="Judas Booth" url="/community/t/154886/the-expanse-syfy/90#post_4223336"]IIRC, you could watch individual episodes on the SyFy website.  I know that we caught the last 15 minutes of the season finale on there when our DVR skipped the ending.
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I seem to remember that being the case. Hope they do it again.
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Love the lady playing Bobbie Draper. Not sure how I feel about her being as "rah rah war with Earth" as she is.


I'm gonna guess that when the war goes hot after the Ganymede Incident it's going to change her mind about it all.


Perfect ending to the episode.



Also love that they're dropping f-bombs. They may be censored, but the fact that they're there means we may get the properly foul mouthed Avasarala from the books on the home video release.

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Seriously, this show is the fucking goods. Epic hard science fiction like this is like crack to me. Those two hours flew by.



More please!

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I was impressed with Draper as well. Looking forward to seeing her in action on Deimos and/or Ganymede, if that's the way the writers are setting up things.

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AIt was an impressive premiere. The effects were great, the storyline moved quickly (yet had enough calm character moments sprinkled in), BUT I was watching it with my girlfriend. She watched the first season with me and begrudgingly said she would give season two another shot. I've heard the term "impenetrable" tossed around in regards to this show, and I don't disagree. For someone who is fully immersed and into the show, this is great stuff. And it's only getting better it seems. But to a casual viewer wanting to jump on it can be confusing trying to even understand what is going on. Not to mention all the different dialects and accents you have to pay attention to. Within 30 minutes she was lost and I have to admit I don't blame her.

It is really geared to a specific audience. The type that don't want the hand held through the entire show. And that can appreciate the deliberate pace used. It is definitely not for everyone, no matter how many times the cast says you can just start watching season two without seeing the first.

I love it and am geared up for the season, but I worry about its future. I hope it catches on.
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It's definitely a show that requires active viewing.  You can't be a passive viewer and follow all of the disparate elements without getting lost, and that's an element that I personally appreciate.

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AMy favorite little moment last night was the minor revelation that this Earth-Mars cold war has been sapping Martian resources that would be used to further terraform Mars and how that is affecting the younger generations feelings towards war. Good stuff.
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ARepeat viewings also help it immensely because there is so much going on. And Avasarala's accent forces me to really hone in in what she's saying.

The first scene with Bobbie's crew jawing in the locker room had me reeling a bit as well. The diversity is amazing in this show and I don't think they should pull back at all, but, like Judas says, it requires active viewing.
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AI also refuse to watch a show with subtitles turned on.

Next week looks like we're going to get some insight into the scientists at Thoth station too, referring to one of the short stories published between novels. Exciting stuff.
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AI cant watch TV without subtitles. Its a habit my wife got me into.
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AOn a second watch I liked it even more. This show is something special.

Chad Coleman's voice reminds me of the G.I.JOE cartoons. Love it. So damn earnest without tipping into parody, but only barely.
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Yeah, cracking start to the new season. My missus is not that convinced either, but she can kind of respect the story I think. There are key events that should be going down this season I can't wait to see.

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Burned through the first season in a couple of days - I really enjoyed it. I had a couple of quibbles with the final episode but I think they're more budget related than anything else.



Sadly there doesn't seem to be a release date for the second season here in Australia yet, even on Foxtel - hopefully Netflix will pick up the whole thing when it's done airing in the US.

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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

It's definitely a show that requires active viewing.  You can't be a passive viewer and follow all of the disparate elements without getting lost, and that's an element that I personally appreciate.



Same here. I'm kind of tired of television shows treating me like a child and repeatedly reminding where I saw a character previously before he / she shows up, or having characters engaged in weird conversations where they're obviously speaking to the audience more than each other. I enjoy trying to keep track of all the factions in this show, as well as all of the characters and what their unique pursuits / motivations are.



Very enjoyable opener to the new season. With its political machinations​, factions-within-factions, rough and tumble space battles and a sense that every decision has a very real consequence, The Expanse really feels like a true successor to Babylon Five to me.



Also, how cool was the sequence where Fred Johnson just fucking spaced the Black Sky leader?

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I love this show too. You definitely have to pay attention, and I like that.  Yeah, Saxon, that was very cool.  I also like that Jane's character had no chance against that guy in the kitchen, and how they presumably let it go.  We'll see I guess.  I like my characters all gray, much closer to real life type people.

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For me, the highlight was the unspoken realization of what what happening in Miller's eyes when Johnson was listening to the scientist at the end. You just knew what he was going to do. Smile



Good to see they're able to shoehorn the product placement in as well. And that FedEx are still going 400 years from now. Smile

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Weirdly, we get it here on Netflix UK but not SyFy UK. (Which is good for me, because I have a subscription with the former and not the latter.)




Netflix only has season 1 doesn't it? Hopefully they'll get the new season soon.



Can't wait. I thought the last couple of episodes following our irradiated buddies getting progressively sicker and more violent was oddly hilarious. I want more of that!

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Netflix only has season 1 doesn't it? Hopefully they'll get the new season soon.




Has it? I watched it with a friend today and assumed that's where she got it from.



ETA: Ah, you're right.

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I just fucking love the way they do space battles. Love it.

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I just fucking love the way they do space battles. Love it.



Oh yes. The 'reality' of G-Force (offset with the magic juice from the crash seats for plot reasons) and the fact there are no magical 'shields' makes it a lot more tense. We've seen the death that a single PDC round can do in the first season, and in the latest episodes fight, when the rounds just crash through the ship (punching through Naomi's screen an inch from her head), it just feels brutal.

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I know I'm not the first to bring this up but I love how diverse in race and nationality everyone is. Most sci-fi shows make it feel as though the white population of America conquered space but The Expanse truly feels like humanity went out there together. I continue to love Shohreh Aghdashloo as Avasarala. 



I also love how everything feels as though it has history and a reason for being that way. It's one of those little details that a lot of fantasy / science-fiction shows don't pull off and so you're never 100% invested in the show's universe. It's the difference between shows like Battlestar Galactica, Game Of Thrones, Firefly and The Expanse where the things you're watching feel organic and feel like they evolved over time (rather than being invented one afternoon in the writer's room), and shows like almost everything else SyFy has made.

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So that rather severe seeming gal who seems to be Fred Johnson's right hand is supposed to be Sam? That's...an unexpected casting choice.

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Is that confirmed? Haven't watched the latest episode yet, but she doesn't seem to fit with what her role is.

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Nobody's said her name yet, but in the latest ep she seems to be filling a lot of Sam's role, and behaving in some Sam-like ways.

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AI tried looking her character up on IMDB but couldn't find a name. She may be a combination of a couple characters. At first I thought she was Michio Pa, but she's doing some very Sam-like things in this episode...
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ASo I'm listening to SyfyWire.com's official Expanse podcast and one of the writers (either Ty Frank or Daniel Abraham; they call in together and I can't tell them apart) mentioned the character's name is Drummer. A character from the later books that they've moved up to now. Not sure if that means Sam is gone, but if so...that sucks.
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Drummer makes a lot more sense.



Spoilers though there is nothing here of note, don't want to have to split this thread into Sullied/Unsullied as there aren't enough of us!



When she is finally introduced the implication is she's a trusted associate of Johnson, but that's odd because we'd not seen her before. It's like a character they threw in at the last minute even though from what Holden and the gang had been doing, they should definately have met up with her before then.


Nothing to stop them changing things up if the actress doesn't work out, she's not that big a role and even if she does expand out in later books, they can always replace her with someone new.

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A lot of people on reddit are basically saying the character is a mashup of Sam and Drummer.

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