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Listened to this on NPR/Fresh Air a little while ago....

This ties into the whole Apple vs Feds issue but goes into much more depth about all this wacky Tron stuff....

< From Reagan's Cyber Plan To Apple Vs. FBI: 'Everything Is Up For Grabs'


My guest, Fred Kaplan, has been writing about this case in his Slate column "War Stories." And he's the author of the new book "Dark Territory: The Secret History Of Cyber War," which we'll talk about in a few minutes. Kaplan's other books include "The Wizards Of Armageddon," an inside history of nuclear strategy, and "The Insurgents: David Patraeus And The Plot To Change The American Way Of War." He was a reporter for The Boston Globe for about 20 years.

Interesting thing that I don't recall hearing the media mention....the ownership of the iPhone at the center of the San Bernardino shooting...


GROSS: ...The phone was actually owned by the county of San Bernardino and not by Syed Farook. So can you discuss the implications of that in this case?

KAPLAN: Right. This is not a Fourth Amendment case. Not only did the county own the phone, but the county has given consent for the government to do whatever it wants with this phone. It's not a First Amendment case. It's not a privacy case because the shooter is dead. You lose your privacy rights when you're dead. It's not a good political optics case from Apple's point of view. This isn't some, you know, two-bit hustler or drug dealer. This is a mass murderer with alleged ties to an international terrorist organization.

So I don't know. To my mind, Apple has made a big mistake in pursuing this as vigorously as they have. And in fact, I was talking last night with a former senior intelligence official, let's say, who put forth the theory that this outside party that's come up with a solution might in fact be someone put up by Apple (laughter) so they can avoid going to trial on this. I tend to doubt that. The consequences of that fact leaking would be devastating to Apple's commercial record. But it does give you a sense of how a lot of people in the industry, including - I've found many people who agree with Apple on the principles are puzzled why Cook is making such a big deal out of this test case, which they see as a bad case to propound his principles of privacy.

There is also an interesting story about Sheldon Adelson's casinos being hacked...and no money was stolen...


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