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The Good Place
Yeah, the jokes are funny, but no character on the show has ever not felt forced. Jason makes Andy Dwyer sounds like Dorothy Parker.
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I see what you're saying so maybe "forced" is not the best term in this case. The characters are mostly caricatures, yes. Funny, interesting caricatures, but caricatures.

Regardless, Eleanor/Bell has felt a bit "off" this season. Michael and Tahani are just sort of there. But I guess more than anything I miss the afterlife setting and the constant visual and absurdist gags that came out of that.

But Chidi and Janet with the break-up simulator was good stuff and they continue to find productive ways of milking Jason's outrageous stupidity. Amplifying it with Pillboi and Donkey Doug should have been insufferable but instead it worked like gangbusters.
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Mitch Narito was downright uncanny in mimicking Jason's speech pattern and mannerisms.
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(10-26-2018, 10:22 AM)wasp Wrote: I see what you're saying so maybe "forced" is not the best term in this case. The characters are mostly caricatures, yes. Funny, interesting caricatures, but caricatures.

It's a cartoon, which is fine.  I remain amused and impressed with the imagination and audacity the show displays on many levels, but I've never actually felt anything for the characters, because none of them have ever felt even remotely like real people.  Michael and Janet are explicitly not real people, still feel more emotionally authentic than Jason or Chidi half the time.

I don't mean that as negatively as it sounds. Just that I can't judge the shift you are talking about, because it has sort of always been that way for me.
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I do agree that Bell's character isn't working as well this season, but that's because now that her arcs been resolved she's gone from de facto protagonist and audience surrogate to simply being part of the group. She feels like she's being backgrounded for whatever reason.
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(10-26-2018, 03:15 AM)Fafhrd Wrote: "Once, he created a sport that was a cross between dodgeball and horseshoes, and everybody died"

I'm still crying laughing.

I had to hit Pause. I think part of it is Jacinto's gift for just sailing past the most horrific details in his dialogue, like the bit last week about a water park.

(10-26-2018, 03:58 AM)the nz natural Wrote: "Macho Man" Randy Savage International Airport.

Beautiful.

(Non) International!

Meanwhile, if there's anything off about Eleanor this year it's that she hasn't really been challenged yet. No big secret to keep, no illusion to maintain. Hopefully, meeting her mom will spark some conflict in her.
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Yeah, the (Non) International detail killed me, as did the look of delight on Danson’s face when the monster truck crushed the other taxi.
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How could I have forgotten that detail?!

I saw a screen grab somewhere of Danson's face with the monster truck taxi and it was the best thing about the whole week.
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Pillboi and Jason sobbing through that handshake.

My god...that almost killed me.
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And his name tag at work actually read ‘Pillboi’.
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Hmm, now this newest episode had a couple effective (if predictable) emotional beats but wasn't all that funny.

I'm really struggling with this season. I enjoy watching it but I don't feel like it's really clicked into a groove the way it did pretty quickly in each of the first two seasons. And the overall plotting, which has typically been fearless and adventurous in the first two seasons, in this season has just felt kind of awkward.

Really hoping that this Soul Patrol storyline doesn't take up too much more time. Guess the group's all gonna be back together in the next episode so hopefully things shift into a stronger group dynamic and a little more forward momentum.
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There’s a lot of truth to what you’re saying, but we’re also still getting lines like this:

“What a fun way to say a normal thing” and “No, Mom. *softly* Ya basic.”
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I'm wondering if the budget got slashed because the Earth setting this season is seriously lacking in imagination compared to the first two.

And you know, there actually have been moments in previous seasons when I've been very emotionally invested in the characters. Namely Jason and Janet getting together (there's a vulnerability to Janet at times that fascinates me) and the brief glimpse we got of Eleanor and Chidi hooking up (and the implication that, across the many resets of their lives, they're meant to be).

But for some reason the writers have decided to push those character beats, and really most character development, into the background in favor of the occasional callback.

I'm still laughing this season, but I'm really hoping this is going somewhere.
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I'm enjoying the different vibe this year, but I do also miss the experience of watching the first two seasons and being sure I knew where it was going, only for the show to then immediately go there and swerve off in a new direction almost every week.
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Was this episode cobbled together from unused footage or did they actually rebuild some of The Good Place sets?

I had thought maybe this season was taking place on Earth because of budget cuts. Now I'm just confused.

The stinger got me a little excited. I've missed those characters.
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Vicki!
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(11-09-2018, 01:05 AM)wasp Wrote: Was this episode cobbled together from unused footage or did they actually rebuild some of The Good Place sets?

I had thought maybe this season was taking place on Earth because of budget cuts. Now I'm just confused.

The stinger got me a little excited. I've missed those characters.

I don't think they had to rebuild anything, and I don't think there were any budget cuts. If you listen to The Good Place podcast you'd know that NBC basically gave Mike Schur carte blanche for the series (and the seasons don't go over 13 episodes because both Kristen Bell and Ted Danson's contracts stipulate that they won't do more than 13 episodes in a season). They went to Earth for Season 3 because that's where they needed to go for the story.

And yeah, that stinger is definitely the game change that I think a lot of people have been waiting for.
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Also, is Kristen Bell forking fearless or what? From that bald-and-toothless closeup to having an iguana climb on her head.

And, y'know, also looking sensational in that party dress.
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She's a bold and lovable smoke show, to be sure.
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I like that someone on the writing staff clearly has it out for Arizona, from the Jeff Foxworthy book being the entirety of the poetry section in the library to every building being used to film porn after closing.
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(11-09-2018, 10:15 AM)Misfit Wrote: I like that someone on the writing staff clearly has it out for Arizona, from the Jeff Foxworthy book being the entirety of the poetry section in the library to every building being used to film porn after closing.

And the Bible being the only book in the Sex Ed section.
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After all the merciless Florida ribbing it's nice to have a fresh target for a bit.
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My favorite little detail was the the philosophy book being "Philosophy for Morons ... for Dummies."
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They've always had Arizona ribbing in there. Don't forget that according to Eleanor "a hot dog between two churros tied together with a Slim Jim and a side of ranch dressing" is an "Arizona delicacy."
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(11-09-2018, 02:45 PM)Richard Dickson Wrote: My favorite little detail was the the philosophy book being "Philosophy for Morons ... for Dummies."

The full title is A Complete Idiot’s Guide To The Cliff Notes To Philosophy For Dingdongs… For Morons.
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I am actually curious/excited about what's coming in the episode tonight...

Don't know if I could say that about the past several episodes. Hoping this thing kind of turns the corner now with the group together and the promise of some external conflict coming.
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Best ep of the season.

Easily.

I'm stoked, guys!
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Michael McKean, an awesome fight scene, Jacksonville style pool, and the promise of a return to our beloved weirdness. Great stuff.

Here's the rest of the cast teaching Ted Danson how to floss dance, btw: https://twitter.com/justinkirkland4/stat...1453335552
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Damn, I’ve said it before, but this show is never content to stick to a theme for a run of episodes. The constant change-ups are exhilarating!

I think I could become pretty good at Jacksonville rules pool...
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