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Barb and Steve? Fuck em both!

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Anyone tried the free IOS / Google Play Stranger Things game on their tablet / phone yet?



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 I too rewatched season one last week and it still held up for me. Everything about it works; the setting, the story, the characters. 11 flipping the van,  the death Demogorgon and Dustin saying," She's our friend and she's crazy!," are still  fuck yeah moments.



  I also think Steve and Nancy make more sense as a couple for the simple reason they come across as upper middle class preppy types and Jonathon is more of a weird artistic type. Steve is actually a good dude; he atones for being a dick to Jonathon, cleans the sign and fights the Demogorgon.



  My only problem with the show is that Jonathon taking pictures of Nancy was a creepy thing to do. Steve did have every right to be pissed. Maybe he could have handled it better, but he wasn't 100 percent in the wrong. I know that is how they got a picture of the Demogorgon, but they could have found a way to do it that doesn't make Jonathon look like a stalker. I also wish the show used Bowie's Heroes and not Gabriel's cover.

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My only problem with the show is that Jonathon taking pictures of Nancy was a creepy thing to do. Steve did have every right to be pissed. Maybe he could have handled it better, but he wasn't 100 percent in the wrong. I know that is how they got a picture of the Demogorgon, but they could have found a way to do it that doesn't make Jonathon look like a stalker.


I think it was a very deliberate choice.  It adds some complexity to a character we should otherwise feel fully sympathetic towards given his characterization and his family situation.  Just as Steve turns out not to be 100% the asshole boyfriend, Jonathan isn't 100% the sympathetic loner.

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Good points.

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Still trying to figure out how Barb was the only Emmy nominee.



Well off to season 2, can't wait!

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Still trying to figure out how Barb was the only Emmy nominee.



Well off to season 2, can't wait!



Because stupid things happen when people who make things listen to the internet.

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Barb was the only Emmy nominee...



except for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series nominee, David Harbour...


and Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series nominee, Millie Bobbie Brown.



Not to mention Series, Writing, Directing, Cinematography, Production Design - Period, Editing...and others. And that's just the ones it didn't win. Big Grin

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Also, my posts on the first season have filtered through Facebook "On This Day," and I'm reminded that I took issue with the Duffer Brothers' framing of "the teens are in a Carpenter movie." It seems to me that Carpenter has a more fatalistic worldview than this - thoughts?

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Fair enough. Barb getting a nomination is still WEIRD though. And I liked her performance!




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Also, my posts on the first season have filtered through Facebook "On This Day," and I'm reminded that I took issue with the Duffer Brothers' framing of "the teens are in a Carpenter movie." It seems to me that Carpenter has a more fatalistic worldview than this - thoughts?



Did they actually say that? Cause yeah, Carpenter likes to show his characters getting ground down by the machine and I never got any of that here.

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Fair enough. Barb getting a nomination is still WEIRD though. And I liked her performance!



Did they actually say that? Cause yeah, Carpenter likes to show his characters getting ground down by the machine and I never got any of that here.


If the first season had ended with the kids sitting by the fire, waiting to see who'll kill each other first, I would have liked S1 much more.

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I can't find the exact quote that I remember, but here's something from THR along those lines: 


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 Ross Duffer: I think it's almost divided, in a way, into thirds. I mean, it's very simplified. Because the teens are almost in that, whether it's Carpenter, King or Wes Craven. It's like they're in that Halloween mode where they're having sex and getting into trouble and there's obviously darkness that comes with that that's symbolized by this monster. With the kids it's more, yes there's the Spielberg stuff, but that's where it get's a little confusing, because part of it is the Spielberg stuff like E.T., and because with adults, we really wanted that Close Encounters feel with Joyce and stuff, or Jaws, where it's like these people that don't really believe in the extraordinary coming encounter with that, and that's where you get the sense of wonder with the Christmas lights and all that, which is what we really wanted.

Matt Duffer: I like to think that it's half. I love that people are picking up so strong on the King, I guess we weren't that subtle about it. It's so funny, you think you're being subtle about certain references, and like, "No, we're pretty on the nose."


Ross: But, when the first trailer came out, when people started talking about King, I was relieved, because I was worried that just you put kids on bikes that instantly, and I understand, you go straight to Spielberg, and Spielberg obviously is a huge influence on us, but King just as much.

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Shannon Purser's portrayal of Barbara "Barb" Holland was one of the most complex and nuanced acting performances on television last year. Her ability to convey deep emotional depth beneath a fragile veneer was, in its way, an iceberg of acting; so much so that it could have sunk entire battleships. Even when she's not on screen, you can feel the ghost of her in scenes because of the incredible way Purser's portrayal left its mark on the narrative. It was brave, it was thought-provoking, and it will be remembered for the ages. 



Shannon Purser not winning the award for that magnificent portrayal could almost be classed as a hate crime.
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And she's CUTE AF at that.

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Barb?


Comme ci, comme ça.

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I think the phrase is "would hug"

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I don't get it but whatevs. Enjoy!

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I think the phrase is "would hug"


The show is set in the 80s, so the phrase should be, would listen to Duran Duran with. Save a pray for me Barb, or save it till the morning after.



 She was good on the show and she had a memorable death scene, but it wasn't award worthy.

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Good thing the first season was in 1983, because in 1985 Dublin kids would already be listening to Duran Duran.

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Also, my posts on the first season have filtered through Facebook "On This Day," and I'm reminded that I took issue with the Duffer Brothers' framing of "the teens are in a Carpenter movie." It seems to me that Carpenter has a more fatalistic worldview than this - thoughts?



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Good thing the first season was in 1983, because in 1985 Dublin kids would already be listening to Duran Duran.



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ATook you long enough.
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Stranger Things doesn't get everything right - there are some rather obvious mistakes with their gaming jargon, which I think was noted in the thread for S1 - but I vastly prefer to year-specific setting to the mish-mash of The Goldbergs.

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AHow about the movie posters on the walls?

How do you feel about the posters?

Posters?
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A bit anachronistic as far as people (esp. pre- or early teens) collecting them back then, but if I recall, the posters used in Stranger Things weren't for films released after the story's supposed to take place.

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APosters?
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AThe movie posters in the Wheelers' basement.

Keep up, Bart.
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AHaving a poster of The Thing for example drove certain dorks crazy, not just cause of dates but because no 11 year olds would have a poster of the Thing on their wall the year it came out. It would be ET.
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APosters?

You know who also has posters on their wall?

All the kids in IT.
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Anyone tried the free IOS / Google Play Stranger Things game on their tablet / phone yet?





Yup - just clocked it 100%.  It's fucking great.  Like Zelda on the SNES.  And, apart from the fact that it is an Ad in itself, no Ads



Had a minor geek out when I saw the 8 bit tiny (but still recognizable) rendition of The Thing poster in the basement of the Wheeler house.

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New trailer



 Steve may be the only person to still look bad ass in a Members Only jacket.

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AWas that Paul Rieser and Sean Astin in that??
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Yep.

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AFucking Steve.
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one detail about this S2 poster has been bugging me for weeks:





Why are none of these pumpkins attached to their vines? Was this a deliberate choice, or an oversight by the designer?

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