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The Alex Jones thread: Because it's time
The military vs. the military:

Quote:The Capitol Hill riots have laid bare the civil war raging within the veterans community.

When a pro-Trump mob assaulted Congress to prevent President-elect Joe Biden from being certified as the next commander in chief, veterans were on both sides of the melee.

Ashli Babbitt, who had served in the Air Force, was shot and killed by police. Video posted online appears to show her attempting to crawl through a broken window to gain access to the Speaker’s Lobby in the Capitol Building.

Separately, Brian Sicknick, a Capitol Police officer, died on Jan. 7 after reportedly being hit with a fire extinguisher. Sicknick served in the New Jersey Air National Guard from 1997 to 2003 and left the service as a staff sergeant.

Both Babbitt and Sicknick had served in security forces units – the Air Force’s equivalent of military police.

The attempted insurrection on Capitol Hill is a direct result of the political warfare that has engulfed the country for decades – and has turned veterans into foot soldiers for the new order. 

Babbitt is not the only veteran who took part in the burning down of the Reichstag — excuse me — the storming of Capitol Hill. A Washington, D.C., police officer posted on Facebook that service members and off-duty police officers were among the pro-Trump rioters and they tried to use their identification badges to get into the Capitol building, according to Politico.
Quote:Former Alaska governor and 2008 vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin leapt right into the conspiracy theory slipstream on Fox News, claiming that she suspected the rioting, looting, and gunshots unleashed inside the Capitol by pro-Trump supporters was actually a false flag operation by the conservative boogeyman-of-the-moment: Antifa.

As we can see from the way people have uncovered zip-tie guy and so forth, there are enough people now watching right wing media, chat rooms, facebook, twitter, parler, discord etc that someone could pinpoint where the narrative changed and how it spread.

I really hope someone does too. If you've been watching politics for a decade or more at least, you know this goes on. But I still see people scoff at the idea that conservative talking points are almost centrally controlled. And in the ultimate show of literal policial correctness, repeated verbatim - seemingly as an article of faith or duty - as far and wide as each motivated individual can.

I mean, the switch happened while it was all taking place. You can show the same posters saying "Yeah storm the place! Take them down!" and then "It was Antifa at the front! They're trying to discredit us!" within hours. And then you've got it all over the media, Sarah Palin, Senators, even Australian politicians repeating this shit only a few hours along.

If Wa Po and Bellingcat, Right Wing Watch and so forth do an audit on this before everyone deletes their shit I think we can see the agitprop machine with clarity we've never had until this point down to who is doing what.
I was waiting for Ted to say some dumb stuff:

Quote:Nugent discussed the Capitol riot fallout during yesterday's episode of his Internet show "Spirit Campfire". The outspoken conservative rocker said (see video below): "Donald Trump did not incite violence. I read his speech over and over again. Zero inciting of any violent or criminal behavior. He wanted to make a statement, just like Martin Luther King Jr., that many, many — millions — of Americans would go to our house, the Capitol in Washington, D.C. and make the unified statement [that] we believe in Donald Trump, we believe in the good deeds he has accomplished, and that we are fearful that the tsunami of evidence of a fraudulent, corrupt, manipulated voting orgy that you just can't say there's no evidence of fraud. An election by a guy" — referring to President-elect Joe Biden — "that never campaigned, that did not get more votes than Barack Obama; he did not get more votes than President Trump. The suitcases came out, and the people that were supposed to monitor the votes were thrown out of the room; there's footage of it. [Editor's note: This claim has been debunked.] There's sworn testimony and affidavits by people who were thrown out of the voting precincts, whose job it was to [monitor the vote counting]. I could go on.

"I think everybody knows that every possible deception was applied to the recent election, and Donald Trump wanted Americans who believe that, witnessed that and know that to make a peaceful protest out of the First Amendment," he continued. "And I am convinced equally to those statements I just made that Antifa and Black Lives Matter terrorists infiltrated that peaceful protest, and they are the ones who initiated the violence. [Editor's note: This claim has also been debunked.]

"Did some overzealous Trumpsters get out of hand? I don't believe they hurt anyone; I don't believe they damaged anything. And if they did, and if I see evidence to that end, I will admit it. Nobody's pure; nobody's soul is incapable of mistakes.

"But I believe that the bizarre, maniacal scramble to shut down this president, to shut down me, to shut down [conservative social media figure] Candace Owens is the most un-American manifestation of a culture of deprivation I think I've ever seen," Nugent added.
The batshittery is strong with Lin Wood:
The ripple effect continues:

Quote:Pat Miletich, the first UFC welterweight champion and one of the most decorated coaches in MMA history, announced in an Instagram video that he was fired by Legacy Fighting Alliance (LFA) for being present at the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

The Hall of Famer has been a color commentator for MMA events such as LFA for more than a decade. LFA airs on UFC Fight Pass.

In a statement to ESPN, LFA wrote that Miletich has been removed from the LFA 97 broadcast this Friday and the promotion will continue with an investigation to determine the next steps.

"First and foremost, the LFA supports the participation of the constitutional right to peaceful protest," the statement read. "During preparations for the 2021 debut broadcast, it was brought to the LFA's attention that photos of questionable nature surfaced on various social media outlets involving fight analyst Pat Miletich. While the LFA continues to investigate the situation, the decision was made to remove Mr. Miletich from broadcast duties for this Friday's LFA 97 event."

Miletich said in the video that LFA officials told him in a phone call that they were getting pressure and felt like they needed to "distance themselves" from him.

"I want you guys to know that the people I walked with at the Capitol, none of them that I know of were involved in any of the violence," Miletich said.

Miletich shared photos on his Facebook page from the Capitol area, including one where he is smiling while posing next to a man wearing a patch with the initials "RWDS," which stands for "right wing death squad."
Two men accused of driving with an AR-15 and a Samurai sword in a SUV covered in QAnon stuff to a Philly vote-count center are facing new legal woes after they were accused of participating in the Capitol riot while out on bail:

Lots to unpack!
Yeah using a samurai sword? Hello! Hasn't he heard of cultural appropriation?
“I call upon you to stop this musical now,” she said to the board. “You tear a community apart if you don’t.” -Prachi Ruina                                                            
Ah, that takes me back to that one time another employee at my former workplace stabbed his roommate with a sword during a drunken argument and it made the papers. Very normal and sane place of employment, that was.

(But at least it was off the clock...!)

Quote:What do you even say about this stuff

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It's gonna be funny as hell when he's actually out of office and sequestered in Mar-A-Lago sulking and golfing while he stares down the barrel of at least massive debt foreclosures, and the faithful are all gathered out front spinning up conspiracy theories about why security won't let them in to worship at his feet. A pilgrimage to Maga, if you will.
I'm totally stealing 'pilgrimage to Maga.'
"See, he has to get rid of all his money first so they can't use any financial leverage against him. Then he'll be free to reveal all the info he's gathered!"
Just this guy, you know?
People who retweet themselves are like those folks who constantly tell you about their high school athletic achievements when they're in their 40s.
(01-14-2021, 02:08 PM)Iron Maiden Wrote:

Quote:What do you even say about this stuff

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Imagine actually believing this.  Not pretending or putting on a show or anything like that...actually believing this.
Or believing in this!  

Two prominent Seth Rich conspiracy theorists have retracted and apologized for false statements as part of a lawsuit settlement:

Quote:A businessman and a fringe internet activist who each played key roles in the conspiracy theory about Seth Rich, the slain Democratic National Committee staffer whose death was used by right-wing activists as a vehicle to help exonerate Russia from its 2016 election meddling, retracted and apologized for their statements this week.

"I take full responsibility for my comments and I apologize for any pain I have caused," the businessman, Ed Butowsky, said in a statement retracting his previous comments. "I sincerely hope the Rich family is able to find out who murdered their son and bring this tragic chapter in their lives to a close."

"Today we retract and disavow our statements and we offer our apology to Mr. Rich and his family," said the fringe internet activist, Matt Couch, in a separate video posted online. "I take full responsibility for my actions ... and would like to apologize to Mr. Rich and his family."

The retractions came as part of a settlement Aaron Rich, Seth Rich's brother, reached with Butowsky and Couch over a lawsuit he filed against them in March 2018. The terms of the settlement were not disclosed. The Washington Times, a conservative news outlet that was also sued, also retracted its claims and settled with Aaron Rich in October 2018.

In a statement, Aaron Rich said he was "gratified" at the fact the two have "taken responsibility for the statements they have made."
(01-14-2021, 04:40 PM)Judas Booth Wrote:
(01-14-2021, 02:08 PM)Iron Maiden Wrote:

Quote:What do you even say about this stuff

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Imagine actually believing this.  Not pretending or putting on a show or anything like that...actually believing this.

Well I just watched the Heaven's Gate doc so...sure.
“I call upon you to stop this musical now,” she said to the board. “You tear a community apart if you don’t.” -Prachi Ruina                                                            
Hashtagging "martial law" is never the best look, but seeing it right next to a hashtag of "mypillow" is definitely one of those Trumpian things that's so stupidly bizarre and bizarrely stupid:

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“Q is an AI globalist Chicomm Big Tech system to manipulate you.” - Alex Jones

Okey dokey.

Video at the link.
"Baked Alaska" has been arrested:

Quote:Far-right media personality Tim Gionet, who calls himself “Baked Alaska,” has been arrested by the FBI for his involvement in the riot at the U.S. Capitol, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.

Gionet was arrested by federal agents in Houston on Saturday, according to the official, who was not authorized to discuss the matter before the public release of a criminal complaint and spoke on condition of anonymity.

That's one, but probably not the last....
It does make one think:

Quote:Still trying to wrap my head around the fact that a bunch of people who think Bill Gates is going to inject them with a chip stormed the US Capitol with their cell phones’ location data enabled.
I'm just going to get ahead of the curve here and start placing Peter Navarro in the "Alex Jones" thread now:

Quote:President Donald Trump’s trade adviser Peter Navarro told Fox News host Jeanine Pirro a “spy transmitted disease” had infected Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA).

“And what about people like Eric Swalwell in the government and how China has tried to influence the legislature?” Pirro asked Navarro to introduce the subject.

Navarro fired back in what he characterized as a “crude” manner.

“Yeah, if I can be a little crude here. The STD is now the ‘spy transmitted disease’ in California,” Navarro stated, to which Pirro laughed, before attempting to save face.

“She not only slept with Swalwell, but she went up and down the coast sleeping with mayors. This is the ultimate honey pot. This is what the Chinese do. They try to ensnare you with money and favors,” the Trump advisor stated. “That guy, [Swalwell] I’m so sick of that guy standing up in the well of Congress, high and mighty, lecturing Donald Trump or anybody else,” Navarro stated.
Check out these savings!

Quote:Using QAnon-themed promotional codes on the MyPillow website can score you deep discounts.

Co-host of the QAnon Anonymous podcast Julian Feeld pointed out the apparent discount on Saturday evening.

“‘QAnon’ currently works as a promo code on mypillow dot com,” Feeld tweeted.

Not only does the code “QAnon” work, but according to a quick but very, very serious Mediaite investigation, other QAnon-related terms such as “Q” and “storm” also give you the opportunity to purchase discounted pillows.
Here's a different kind of "no fly" list:

Quote:Delta Air Lines has banned passengers who heckled Utah Sen Mitt Romney and South Carolina Sen Lindsey Graham ahead of their flights last week and will be prohibiting all guns in checked baggage on flights to Washington, DC, until after President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration next week.

Romney, the lone Republican senator to vote to oust President Donald Trump after he was impeached, was on a flight from Salt Lake City to DC when he was first harassed by a Trump supporter while waiting on his flight.

A second video showed dozens of people on a flight yelling ‘traitor’ at Romney, though he isn’t seen in that clip.

On Friday, Graham was preparing to leave DC when Trump supporters confronted him at the Reagan International Airport and also called him a ‘traitor to the country’.

Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian said that the company has now placed 880 people on its no-fly list for not complying with its mask requirements and others were banned from flying with the airline for harassing passengers or unruly behavior related to the US election results.
I'm going to have to spruce up on my history because I don't recall these dark days of rescinded reservations.

This guy's a representative from Arizona, by the way:

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Here's a good read that touches on QAnon history through the guise of one person, but also focuses on the allure (especially during a lonely pandemic) and how the theories are evolving now that Trump lost:
A Twitter thread from NBC News' Ben Collins about his assessment on the QAnon people he kept in touch with over the years for interviews:

Quote:Over the last few years, I kept in touch with some QAnon supporters through DMs, checking in on them to see if they'd ever come out of it when their next doomsday came and went.

They'd typically first message me calling me a Satanic pedophile. I'd ignore it and ask questions.

Usually they would draw hard lines. A big one was D5, which everyone thought would be mass arrests on December 5th two years ago. Didn't happen, didn't matter.

It's about belief, anticipation, an advent calendar. One day soon, their problems would be fixed.

I would check in the week after the failed doomsdays. They'd point to a Q post like scripture, and say some ridiculous event proved it was still happening. An earthquake somewhere, a service interruption on GMail.

I learned something: these people don't want to be humiliated.

So many Q people have staked their entire identities on this. There are no real-life happy endings with QAnon, especially true believers. Just constant embarrassment and almost surgical extrication from friends or family.

So they retreat back to Q forums and pray for executions.

There are a lot of QAnon influencers saying the 20th is their last stand, that if Biden is inaugurated they'll admit they've been conned. But they won't. They'll equivocate and buck-pass. They'll find secret patterns in his speech and say he was secretly arrested. It'll continue.

QAnon is a deeply pathetic and embarrassing thing to believe. For believers, there is safety from that embarrassment in increasingly volatile and toxic online communities. Getting people out of it safely is going to be very hard, but important.

I'd reach back out to some of those Q people, but they're banned from this site now.

They grew to like me. I wasn't a Satanic, blood-drinking pedophile, but I was covering for them, they thought, and they wanted to save me.

Because, remember, they think they're the good guys.
Those damn Big Tech guys at *reads* Bed, Bath & Beyond and Kohls!

Quote:From an interview earlier this evening, Mike Lindell tells Right Side Broadcasting that he was just told that @BedBathBeyond has dropped MyPillow. He also complains about @slpng_giants.
A lot to unpack here from a former Occupy Wall Street drum circle guy:

Quote:A Queens, N.Y. man who allegedly made repeated threats to murder Democratic members of Congress on social media, including threats to murder them at President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration, was arrested Tuesday morning by FBI agents and NYPD officers.

Brendan Hunt of Ridgewood, Queens, a former Occupy Wall Street activist and part-time filmmaker and actor, was charged with knowingly making threats to murder U.S. officials based on posts he allegedly made in December and January on Facebook, Bitchute and Parler, sometimes under the alias “X-Ray Ultra."

The son of a retired Queens family court judge, Hunt has worked for the New York state Office of Court Administration since 2016 as an assistant court analyst, according to a spokesperson for the office. He was suspended without pay following his arrest Tuesday. Blog posts on his website from 2011 feature articles and photos of the Occupy Wall Street protests, in which Hunt identified himself as a member of the drum circle in several photos. Nearly a decade later, he called President-elect Joe Biden a communist on social media while inciting others to take up arms during the inauguration, according to the FBI.

On Dec. 6, Hunt made several Facebook posts about killing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and incoming Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, both of New York. In one post, he wrote that he wanted Trump to “hold a public execution of Pelosi aoc schumer etc.,” according to court documents.
They’ll never let go of this myth:

When predictions of the Second Coming don't eventuate, many groups shift to saying "Actually it did happen. Just not in the way we thought it would. Christ is risen and working behind the scenes to bring about the end of days now"
Never stop grifting.
"God moves in mysterious ways," they said. Maybe he is on your side, the way it all worked out. Remembering other Christmases, wishing for something, something important, something special. And this is it, baby boy Frankie Bono. You're alone now. All alone. The scream is dead. There's no pain. You're home again, back in the cold, black silence
Wait a sec, if the post upthread is true, how can this also be true??

"Go back to our lives as best we are able." Lulz.
Boy, these viral marketing stunts are really getting out of hand.

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