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HBO: THE DEUCE
#71

Yeah, the most satisfying stuff was Candy/Eileen.



Loved the last shot of the girls going back to work, the brothel surely getting even busier.

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#72

And can we talk about pimp Lester Freamon???

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#73

Oh, I was SO happy to see Clarke Peters pop up. He's 3/3 for David Simon's HBO series.

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#74

That may have been my favorite scene in the episode.  The old guard, the hero on the pedestal, now carrying his woman's groceries without a second thought, leaving CC to wonder just what the hell this life has left in store for him.



By the way, was absolutely stunned to find out the actor who plays CC, Gary Carr, is British.

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#75
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And can we talk about pimp Lester Freamon???



Yeah, we squeeeeeeed at that.

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#76
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- I loved how the show essentially ended with the premiere of DEEP THROAT.  Here's a landmark in time, showing the mainstream acceptance of porn.




Yeah, closing with Deep Throat was so perfect I immediately started thinking about what the next seasons could be working up to.

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#77
AWhile I'm glad my fears did not come to pass, it was weird that we got no reaction at all from C.C. about Ashley disappearing.

Fantastic season.
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#78
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While I'm glad my fears did not come to pass, it was weird that we got no reaction at all from C.C. about Ashley disappearing.

Fantastic season.


What sort of reaction would he have? He's a two bit pimp.

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What sort of reaction would he have? He's a two bit pimp.



And him having a reaction would a) be admitting she actually got away and b) make him look weak to the other pimps.

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#80
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Yeah, closing with Deep Throat was so perfect I immediately started thinking about what the next seasons could be working up to.



Well, you've got Hustler debuting in 1974.

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#81

This show is legitimately great. 



We've had a lot of shows try to claim the Prestige Drama crown over recent years, and this is one of the few that feels as though it actually deserves to wear it. I can't remember the last time I saw a piece of media portray a time and place as vividly as The Deuce portrays early 70's New York. You can almost smell the garbage, alcohol and cigarette smoke through the screen.


This is a show that would probably benefit from a Schwartz write-up; particularly because of how it revolves around changes in U.S law regarding pornography. I think it's especially clever how the show starts out as a series of separate tales but weaves those together to outline the bigger picture: a mass collusion between the politicians, cops and criminals to normalize the sex trade and benefit financially from the poor women trapped inside it.


I can't claim to "like" any of these characters but I love spending time with them in this world. It's a fascinating place and none of the scenes feel like filler; they're all helping to further build this  world and move the main story forward. I understand that the future seasons are going to jump forward in time and I already know I'm going to miss those characters who don't make the leap, as much as I'll miss this version of New York. 
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#82
Season 2 premieres September 9th.
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#83
That's rocking good news. The more I've thought about it, the more that I think that THE DEUCE may be one of the best things that they've ever done on HBO.
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#85
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#86
The season premiere was terrific.  You can start to see how the plan to have five years pass between seasons motivated some of the casting choices.  But I am left wondering if David Krumholtz's dramatic weight loss (acknowledged by dialog) was a story choice or something health related.

It has been said that the plan for this show is three seasons and out, so I am eagerly awaiting the renewal announcement and confirmation that Simon and Pelecanos will get to finish their story.
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#87
Apparently Krumholtz has a thyroid condition that caused his weight to balloon around the first season’s production. He’s since gotten treatment and returned to his prior size since.
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#88
I agree, it was terrific. My one complaint is that the dialog was incredibly low in the mix, resulting in us having to rewind a few times (we DVR'd it) to try and make out what was being said. It's a real pet peeve of mine when the dialog isn't able to be heard clearly, and we definitely found it to be a frustrating viewing experience.
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#89
I definitely had that issue. I rewound it multiple times and never could make out Vincent's comment when he was watching the guy in chaps walk away in the gay bar, which is a shame because he and Paul's reactions indicated I should have found it quite clever.
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#90
(09-10-2018, 01:36 PM)schwartz Wrote: I definitely had that issue.  I rewound it multiple times and never could make out Vincent's comment when he was watching the guy in chaps walk away in the gay bar, which is a shame because he and Paul's reactions indicated I should have found it quite clever.

It was something along the lines of 'where does he keep his wallet?'  That was one of the few lines that I was able to make out on the first go.

There's really no excuse for a viewer to be frustrated by the dialog not being audible. Is it really that hard to mix these things right?
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#91
Excellent news: ‘The Deuce’ renewed for third and final season
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#92
No one seems to be talking about it, but this season has been great. I love Larry's dive into porn stardom and Candy's guerilla shoot for Red Hot, plus Bobby's misadventures with the parlors and Big Mike's fledgling crew. I have this horrible feeling CC is about to blow though; so far he's the only pimp we've seen who hasn't managed to either accept the new role the pimps have or found something else to do with himself, and I fear he's going to take this frustration out on Lori far beyond something as relatively benign as breaking her award.
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#93
Agreed, this season has been great, and the rise of Larry in to being a pornstar has been a hell of a lot of fun to watch.
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#94
Show's fantastic and has been from the beginning. The Abby/Vincent relationship is a bore, but so what. Here's hoping they get the final season shot before James Franco gets whatever reckoning the Gossip forum tells me he's due for.
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#95
Finally got around to watching the pilot for this show, and man this is great. It's essentially The Wire: 70s edition with the same commitment to the Novel storytelling the former serious displayed.

I actually really like Franco here--though me and my friend had a very sobering conversation about his sexually harrassing cast members and whether that should effect how much we like the show--and think it's the first time where he's actually diving into a character rather than being another variation of Franco mugging for the camera.

This is a gorgeous looking show and I love the complex relationship between the girls and their pimps.
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#96
It only gets better, Ska. The finale for S2 is this coming Sunday and it's really amazing to think back to where all of the characters were in the first episode of S1 and see how far they've come. Larry the pimp, in particular, has a really cool arc going on.
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#97
(10-25-2018, 11:14 AM)Judas Booth Wrote: Larry the pimp, in particular, has a really cool arc going on.

I like how they teased a similar arc for CC, only to have it dashed because he seems pathologically incapable of being anywhere near as charming as Larry.
My karmic debt must be huge.

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#98
CC has simply got too much rage going on, particularly because he knows that his entire routine of being worldly is complete bullshit.

I really wonder how Larry's arc is going to play out, especially in S3. The sense of destiny for him is really quite palpable.
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#99
(10-25-2018, 11:26 AM)Judas Booth Wrote: CC has simply got too much rage going on, particularly because he knows that his entire routine of being worldly is complete bullshit.

Yeah, that restaurant scene was almost painful given how out of his element he was without him even remotely realizing it.
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(10-25-2018, 11:14 AM)Judas Booth Wrote: It only gets better, Ska. The finale for S2 is this coming Sunday and it's really amazing to think back to where all of the characters were in the first episode of S1 and see how far they've come. Larry the pimp, in particular, has a really cool arc going on.

There are 2 episodes left in Season 2 - it is one episode longer than the first season.
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(10-25-2018, 11:38 AM)could432 Wrote:
(10-25-2018, 11:14 AM)Judas Booth Wrote: It only gets better, Ska.  The finale for S2 is this coming Sunday and it's really amazing to think back to where all of the characters were in the first episode of S1 and see how far they've come.  Larry the pimp, in particular, has a really cool arc going on.

There are 2 episodes left in Season 2 - it is one episode longer than the first season.

Fine by me.  This season can go on and on eternally for all that I care...I'm enjoying it immensely!
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(10-25-2018, 11:36 AM)Richard Dickson Wrote:
(10-25-2018, 11:26 AM)Judas Booth Wrote: CC has simply got too much rage going on, particularly because he knows that his entire routine of being worldly is complete bullshit.

Yeah, that restaurant scene was almost painful given how out of his element he was without him even remotely realizing it.

I think he was very aware of how out of place he was, particularly on the heels of how he chickened out on the flight to LA.  

David Simon really loves that particular scene, I guess, since he did the exact same thing twice on The Wire (with D'Angelo in S1 and the wild kids in S4).  


(10-25-2018, 11:19 AM)Richard Dickson Wrote:
(10-25-2018, 11:14 AM)Judas Booth Wrote: Larry the pimp, in particular, has a really cool arc going on.

I like how they teased a similar arc for CC, only to have it dashed because he seems pathologically incapable of being anywhere near as charming as Larry.

We've seen CC be the most charming of any of the pimps.  I think he could play the part, except for a variety of factors that led Larry to be the one to break out:

1) While CC might have him beat in the charisma department, we have seen that Larry has certain other endowments that really pop on screen.

2) CC is just a touch smarter, and sees just enough of what the big picture of the legitimization of the sex industry means for pimps to be more frightened of it. Larry lets the stars in his eyes blind him, which makes it easier for him to take the leap.

3) It's also easier for Larry to get excited about the porn industry because his girl's foray into it was not as successful as Lori's, and therefore less threatening to his position.  If Darlene had become the breakout star, he might have reacted more more negatively to the whole concept too.

4) Which in CC's case, having Ashley "escape" just as Lori was making it big in this other area only exacerbated his fears of impotence and obsolescence.  Again, if it had been Larry she ran away from, we might have seen a very different side of him in regards to the whole porn thing.
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Just catching up on this show. This is the closest I've seen to a tv season being a long movie. There's a real richness here that's incredible to watch. Cannot wait for season 3 to drop.
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Just a heads up/reminder that S3 premieres tonight on HBO. Guess they moved it to Monday night because of all of their other shows going on right now...kinda feels like a dump.
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