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Star Wars IX: Untitled (2019)(J.J. Abrams) Pre-Release discussion brought to you by Overlord
#36

John Landis weighed in on the Lucasfilm firings.



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 “I have many things that I’m working on, whether or not they’ll ever become real, I don’t know. You know Joe Dante and myself and a few other guys I know are in the same position. They’re not hiring people who have opinions. They think, ‘He knows what he’s doing, I’m not hiring him!’ Look at Star Wars. They keep firing guys. Phil Lord and Chris Miller, those guys are really talented. They’re really funny and original guys. They shot 75% of the movie and I gotta tell you, it doesn’t speak well for the new Lucasfilm. How many directors have they fired? Four. How many writers? Twelve.”
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#37

So long as Disney manages to avoid hiring directors who illegally hire children, proceed to hide the children from officials so they can have them perform dangerous stunts, ultimately get those children killed, then blame everyone in the world besides themselves for the deaths, then Disney will definitely have a leg up on Landis.

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#38

No axe to grind there.

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#39
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Originally Posted by Barry Woodward View Post
 

I'm thinking Abrams will use the original REVENGE OF THE JEDI lava lake thrown room setting for EPISODE IX. It would make sense if it were under Darth Vader's castle on Mustafar.



http://bensbargains.net/thecheckout/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1004407_574143255970613_355802133_n.jpg


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If it pops up in THE LAST JEDI, do people blame it on Abrams?

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#40
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Originally Posted by Overlord View Post
 

So long as Disney manages to avoid hiring directors who illegally hire children, proceed to hide the children from officials so they can have them perform dangerous stunts, ultimately get those children killed, then blame everyone in the world besides themselves for the deaths, then Disney will definitely have a leg up on Landis.


And also said director might want to have a chat with his son, who is currently writing 150+ page screeds about Carly Rae Jepsen and apparently doesn't know what a saxophone is.



https://twitter.com/vandroidhelsing/stat...8766206976

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#41
A[quote name="The Dark Shape" url="/community/t/159625/star-wars-ix-untitled-2019-directed-by-franchise-lord-and-savior-j-j-abrams/30#post_4363441"]

If it pops up in THE LAST JEDI, do people blame it on Abrams?
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My new hope for LAST JEDI is that it's so, so weird, that even JJ's 100% glucose solution screenplay for the sequel is improved by just having to start from an odd handover point.
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#42
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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape View Post
 

If it pops up in THE LAST JEDI, do people blame it on Abrams?


Rian Johnson used that throne concept for Snoke.

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#43
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Originally Posted by Ambler View Post
 

John Landis weighed in on the Lucasfilm firings.



He is not wrong.



Also I must hear that Vincent Price story!

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#44

It's probably bullshit, coming from Landis.

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#45
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It's probably bullshit, coming from Landis.



I've heard him tell the same stories with contradictory details. But I peg that to his age/time and less "He's blowing smoke!"



The only problem with his Alfred Hitchcock story is framing it around Dressed to Kill (released after his death). But do I believe they had that specific conversation? Yes.

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#46
A[quote name="The Dark Shape" url="/community/t/159625/star-wars-ix-untitled-2019-directed-by-franchise-lord-and-savior-j-j-abrams#post_4363441"]If it pops up in THE LAST JEDI, do people blame it on Abrams?
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"Blame"? Like it's a bad thing?
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#47
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I've heard him tell the same stories with contradictory details. But I peg that to his age/time and less "He's blowing smoke!"



The only problem with his Alfred Hitchcock story is framing it around Dressed to Kill (released after his death). But do I believe they had that specific conversation? Yes.


There's no way he did stunt work on Once Upon a Time in the West, though.

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#48
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Originally Posted by Dent6084 View Post
 

And also said director might want to have a chat with his son, who is currently writing 150+ page screeds about Carly Rae Jepsen and apparently doesn't know what a saxophone is.



https://twitter.com/vandroidhelsing/stat...8766206976



The bit he's talking about is the intro here:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeccAtqd5K8



Landis' description isn't an unreasonable one IMO. I honestly don't get why there's such a culture of ragging on everything that guy says or does. In my experience he's one of the less insufferable opinionated twitter people!

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#49

Am I the only one who would like to see Rey and gang outside of the saga trilogy format in a series of standalone adventures?

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#50
A[quote name="Barry Woodward" url="/community/t/159625/star-wars-ix-untitled-2019-directed-by-franchise-lord-and-savior-j-j-abrams/30#post_4363869"]Am I the only one who would like to see Rey and gang outside of the saga trilogy format in a series of standalone adventures?
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Yes.

In general and as always, yes.
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#51
AI'd be fine with self-contained non-trilogy adventures for those characters why not?
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#52
AHonestly, I don't care what they do or how many of these things that they keep making as long as I keep enjoying them..
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#53

The tyranny of trilogies. The sequel trilogy wasn't mapped out in advance. It's a chain story. That's fine, but then why stick to the trilogy format? In this new cinematic universe paradigm, it makes sense to give the characters and story room to breathe.

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#54
AMakes the box sets easier to put together?
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#55

I wouldn't mind if they did away with the episode numbering altogether and further blurred the lines between saga and standalone.

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#56
AA solo Finn or Rey adventure would be preferrable to the story of when the Death Star was a pimply teenager getting picked on in high school.
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#57

It would be weird to follow-up EPISODE IX with the further adventures of Rey, Finn, Poe and Rose and not have it be EPISODE X, and yet that's a more exciting prospect for me than getting them in another trilogy.

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#58
ASooner or later....if they're wanting to keep this up indefinitely....which I'm sure they do, they're gonna have to leave the Skywalkers behind. Everything in this made up universe shouldn't keep revolving around these same people. Let it die with Luke and Leia (not like THAT) and Kylo. This isn't a necessity for me to keep watching and enjoying these things though. Once we see Luke back in action again there aren't gonna be too many things left to mine nostalgia from. And as someone who is absolutely ok with having their nostalgic feelings exploited....I would like it if there's a point where Star Wars moves past all that..
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#59
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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post

which I'm sure they do, they're gonna have to leave the Skywalkers behind.


Terry Brooks never left his main family behind in the Shannara books. No reason for Disney to do so when people seem quite ready to keep eating the same reheated meal over and over again.

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#60

For those that say Abrams is better at setting things up than finishing them, maybe this time that can work to his advantage. We don't know much about Snoke, but we do know this, he's a vampire, feeding off the galaxy's youth. The First Order has filled their ranks by kidnapping and brainwashing children. He corrupted Ben Solo and it makes sense if he's after additional Force sensitive kids. The end game for EPISODE IX should be about more than just toppling the First Order, it should be about the legacy of the Jedi. Maybe the best ending for this sequel trilogy is a new beginning. Introduce a new cast of young actors that can carry a Harry Potter-esque Jedi Academy series of films. Have Luke and Rey fight to rescue them from the clutches of Snoke and end the film with Rey training them on Ahch-To.

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#61
A[quote name="Barry Woodward" url="/community/t/159625/star-wars-ix-untitled-2019-directed-by-franchise-lord-and-savior-j-j-abrams/50#post_4364069"]Introduce a new cast of young actors that can carry a Harry Potter-esque Jedi Academy series of films.[/quote]

I like it. Keep 'em comin' Baz.
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#62

If Jyn Erso, Cassian Andor, Chirrut Îmwe, Baze Malbus and K-2SO didn't perish in ROGUE ONE, I would have wanted new adventures with them. These standalone films can act as pilots that can spin off into their own film series.

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#63
AWith you 100% on that one. Make mine MarveLucasfilm.
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#64

In much the same way, EPISODE IX can act as a backdoor pilot for a Jedi Academy film series.

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#65

These cinematic universes are essentially TV done on a much larger scale. That's why I think former showrunners like J.J. Abrams, Matt Reeves and Joss Whedon are such good fits for these productions.

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#66

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vi...ix-1041357



http://cdn.chud.com/9/93/935a6ed1_jj_abrams_x-wing.jpeg

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#67

Poor Gianopulos.

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#68
J.J. Abrams was interviewed during Michael Giacchino's 50th birthday celebration / career retrospective:

BBC Radio: Both of these series that you're involved with – STAR TREK and STAR WARS – they change people's lives, don't they? Little boys, little girls end up saying "That's what I want to do. That's where I wanna be."

J.J. Abrams: Well, it's certainly something that I'm aware of now working on EPISODE IX – coming back into this world after having done EPISODE VII. I feel like we need to approach this with the same excitement that we had when we were kids, loving what these movies were. And at the same time, we have to take them places that they haven't gone, and that's sort of our responsibility. It’s a strange thing – Michael's worked on things like PLANET OF THE APES and STAR TREK and STAR WARS, and these are the things of dreams. Yet we can't just revel in that; we have to go elsewhere.
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#69
AIs JJ trying to grow up or something?
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#70
J.J. Abrams gave a talk at the Oxford Union and a fan got to meet him and Chris Terrio afterwards to pick their brains.

"In the official talk JJ gave before I met him, he said it was exciting that Rian Johnson's perspective on Star Wars has given him ideas that he never would have had before, and he said that his idea for the ending of the trilogy has grown a lot compared to how he thought it would end when he was writing TFA. After speaking to him personally, I really feel like 9 is going to be different from TFA in so many way.

They said that they're going to be brave and there will be big surprises. I got the impression that JJ felt like he had to refresh previous Star Wars moments for a modern audience in TFA, and now it feels like they have free reign to do what they want. Apparently they've had no interference from Kathleen or Pablo or the Lucasfilm Story Group. 9 is also the film which unites all three trilogies and brings everything together.

I was surprised at how much freedom they have over shaping the canon. Apparently Pablo Hidalgo has given lots of information when asked to clarify details, but they get to decide what is canon for everything before and after Episode 9 (well, anything after RotJ onwards, as long as it doesn't contradict TLJ). Chris did say no one has changed anything so far, so maybe it's just that there haven't been any clashes with the previous canon in what they've written.

I was speaking to Chris and he was talking about the OT. I said about how I grew up with the PT and the prequels were my entry point into Star Wars. I asked about elements of the PT coming into 9 and Chris said about how 9 unites all of it. He said 9 definitely makes it feel like they're all happening in the same universe, and there would be PT elements in 9. They could be visual or thematic - he didn't overtly say that there would be returning planets or characters from the PT or anything."

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/commen...o_tonight/
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