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Rian Johnson's KNIVES OUT starring Daniel Craig
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Johnson told Deadline he has been an Agatha Christie nut since his teens, sparking to her richly drawn characters and the twists and turns that drove her whodunits. For a decade, he has been framing in his mind how he would make his own murder mystery, and over the summer he scripted his contemporary version of the locked door mansion murder mystery.

Boyle’s abrupt exit from Bond 25 gave Johnson and Bergman an opening to pursue Craig, if he was up for squeezing in a movie before returning to his 007 franchise. When Craig sparked to the script and signed on, a hot package came together, just in time for the Toronto market. Besides the Bond films, both Johnson and Bergman followed Craig’s career closely since his strong turns that included Road to Perdition, Munich, Layer Cake, Defiance and Logan Lucky. They’ve seen his stage turns, and Johnson has met Craig socially several times. It made for a quick and easy alliance on Knives Out.

“I have been a huge fan and always wanted to work with him and as I worked on the script, trying to get it right, Ram and I were wringing our hands over who could be the detective,” Johnson said. “Then, serendipitously, we heard Daniel might have a small window, and it worked out. He’s an actor of extraordinary range, and we are looking forward to the fun of finding that modern detective, and collaborating with Daniel on creating a new Poirot.”

https://deadline.com/2018/09/daniel-crai...202456539/
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#2
Craig is a much better actor than I think he's given credit for. LOGAN LUCKY is a mess, but it's a delightful one, for it.

I've also loved Johnson's experiments with genre - from noir to sci fi to con artist - and I think this could be really special.

There's a real opportunity to cast the shit out of this.
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#3
It's interesting that Johnson hasn't directed a script he hasn't written.
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#4
cool!
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#5
WHOA. I totally didn’t expect this. Psyched that Johnson is following up The Last Jedi with an original script in line with his earlier films, and to see what he does with Daniel Craig.

Brick is one of the best film debuts of the last few decades. Hitchcock and Chandler at the intersection of Blue Velvet/Twin Peaks-era Lynch and early Coens.
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#6
Hook this shit directly to my veins.
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#7
Love the title but then read the description of the project and felt a little disappointed because...

KNIVES OUT: A STAR WARS FAN STORY
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#8
Bummed for what this likely means for BOND 25, but I'm excited to see Johnson back in this sort of territory.
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(09-04-2018, 11:49 AM)boone daniels Wrote: Craig is a much better actor than I think he's given credit for. LOGAN LUCKY is a mess, but it's a delightful one, for it.

I've also loved Johnson's experiments with genre - from noir to sci fi to con artist - and I think this could be really special.

There's a real opportunity to cast the shit out of this.

He's an excellent actor: Friends from the North and Enduring Love are great examples and his skills were a big reason Casino Royale worked as well as it did. In terms of "serious" roles, he's top drawer. He has too much of a cynical demeanour to be charming in an easy going way, though, which I think has harmed his non-Bond start ups.
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#10
We not gonna talk about Road to Perdition. I thought he was great playing an absolute man child.

(09-04-2018, 01:55 PM)wasp Wrote: Love the title but then read the description of the project and felt a little disappointed because...

KNIVES OUT: A STAR WARS FAN STORY

Actually, It's really a prequel film for Knives Chau from Scott Pilgrim.

KNIVES OUT: THIS SUMMER IT'S TIME TO CHAU DOWN!!!!
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Except for Thor 2: the literal worst.
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#11
hahahaha I was thinking of Knives Chau because of the title too!

so what about the description of the project made it sound like a star war fan story to wasp??? I don't get it.
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#12
I haven't seen Road to Perdition. I've got a bit if a thing against movies in certain genres based off funny books. Dumb, no doubt, but there it is.
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(09-05-2018, 01:09 PM)Nooj Wrote: hahahaha I was thinking of Knives Chau because of the title too!

so what about the description of the project made it sound like a star war fan story to wasp???  I don't get it.

oh, just because a large chunk of Star Wars fans have had their "knives out" for Rian since TLJ.

I don't know why my brain thinks the way it does.
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(09-05-2018, 02:02 PM)wasp Wrote:
(09-05-2018, 01:09 PM)Nooj Wrote: hahahaha I was thinking of Knives Chau because of the title too!

so what about the description of the project made it sound like a star war fan story to wasp???  I don't get it.

oh, just because a large chunk of Star Wars fans have had their "knives out" for Rian since TLJ.

I don't know why my brain thinks the way it does.

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(09-05-2018, 01:09 PM)jhp1608 Wrote: I haven't seen Road to Perdition. I've got a bit if a thing against movies in certain genres based off funny books. Dumb, no doubt, but there it is.
Booo..  It's really fucking good.

One of my favorite Jude Law performances as well since he plays completely against type as an incredibly creepy hitman.
 I think all Marvel films are okay. This is my design.

Except for Thor 2: the literal worst.
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#16
Law is the shit in RtP. But that whole supporting cast is full of ringers: Newman, Craig, Stanley Tucci, Dylan Baker, Ciaran Hinds.
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(09-05-2018, 06:00 PM)ska oreo Wrote:
(09-05-2018, 01:09 PM)jhp1608 Wrote: I haven't seen Road to Perdition. I've got a bit if a thing against movies in certain genres based off funny books. Dumb, no doubt, but there it is.
Booo..  It's really fucking good.

One of my favorite Jude Law performances as well since he plays completely against type as an incredibly creepy hitman.

(09-05-2018, 06:14 PM)Dent6084 Wrote: Law is the shit in RtP. But that whole supporting cast is full of ringers: Newman, Craig, Stanley Tucci, Dylan Baker, Ciaran Hinds.

I'm sure the craft is excellent - I just find spy, gangster and war films based on graphic novels to be noticeably more, cheesy is probably the best word. Lurid, maybe? One step too far removed from anything resembling the emotional logicc of the real world? Don't know. Of course I'm now very much struggling to think of an example.

To be honest, it's part of a broader semse I have, as we shift into the next generation of filmmakers, that their reference points for certain period genres are the fictions about those periods rather than first hand experience of the past itself and that as a consequence things feel less credible. 

It could all be a state of mind, but one of the (non-comic book) examples of this is Alfredson's Tinker Tailor film that was egregious in its dressing up of a period story in what the director and art department thought the 70s was like, rather than what it was like. For a story relyibg on verissimilitude that broke me. Sci fi - have at it. Real things that real people do or did? I'll always struggle with too much distance between the art and the reality. It's why I've never been big on Westerns but think the thirty/forty years of war films from 1940 onwards are more convincing (even something like Kelly's Heroes with its anachronisms and silliness still has moments and mise en scene that feel honest).

I'm way off topic now.
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I'm just going to place this scene here. Because it's the shit.





If this doesn't want to make you check out the movie even a little--I can't help you.
 I think all Marvel films are okay. This is my design.

Except for Thor 2: the literal worst.
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(09-06-2018, 04:38 AM)jhp1608 Wrote:
(09-05-2018, 06:00 PM)ska oreo Wrote:
(09-05-2018, 01:09 PM)jhp1608 Wrote: I haven't seen Road to Perdition. I've got a bit if a thing against movies in certain genres based off funny books. Dumb, no doubt, but there it is.
Booo..  It's really fucking good.

One of my favorite Jude Law performances as well since he plays completely against type as an incredibly creepy hitman.

(09-05-2018, 06:14 PM)Dent6084 Wrote: Law is the shit in RtP. But that whole supporting cast is full of ringers: Newman, Craig, Stanley Tucci, Dylan Baker, Ciaran Hinds.

I'm sure the craft is excellent - I just find spy, gangster and war films based on graphic novels to be noticeably more, cheesy is probably the best word. Lurid, maybe? One step too far removed from anything resembling the emotional logicc of the real world? Don't know. Of course I'm now very much struggling to think of an example.

To be honest, it's part of a broader semse I have, as we shift into the next generation of filmmakers, that their reference points for certain period genres are the fictions about those periods rather than first hand experience of the past itself and that as a consequence things feel less credible. 

It could all be a state of mind, but one of the (non-comic book) examples of this is Alfredson's Tinker Tailor film that was egregious in its dressing up of a period story in what the director and art department thought the 70s was like, rather than what it was like. For a story relyibg on verissimilitude that broke me. Sci fi - have at it. Real things that real people do or did? I'll always struggle with too much distance between the art and the reality. It's why I've never been big on Westerns but think the thirty/forty years of war films from 1940 onwards are more convincing (even something like Kelly's Heroes with its anachronisms and silliness still has moments and mise en scene that feel honest).

I'm way off topic now.

So you didn't enjoy A History of Violence and Atomic Blonde, then? Edge of Tomorrow? Old Boy?
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History of Violence (the movie) is so, so good.   The graphic novel?  Eeeeeh.
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Except for Thor 2: the literal worst.
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#21
But that's proof to dat boi jhp that some pulp material can be taken and elevated. Whereas jhp seems to be saying the inherent DNA of the source material can never be escaped.

Except, you know, Jaws and the Godfather.
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(09-06-2018, 10:41 AM)ska oreo Wrote: History of Violence (the movie) is so, so good.   The graphic novel?  Eeeeeh.

History of Violence is on my short list of the most underrated movies of all time.  It wasn't even nominated for Best Picture (Crash ... fucking CRASH!!! ... won). If you read a plot summary it feels like something that should be tired/hackneyed, but just about every scene is glowing with great performances and fresh takes/angles on the material.
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#23
Mortenson and Bello were robbed of noms. Two absolutely fantastic performances. Hell, Mortenson should've been contending for the win, and that's a strong year for Best Actor too.
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(09-06-2018, 01:08 PM)Dent6084 Wrote: Mortenson and Bello were robbed of noms. Two absolutely fantastic performances. Hell, Mortenson should've been contending for the win, and that's a strong year for Best Actor too.

Agreed.

The themes of History of Violence probably didn't sit real well with the zeitgeist of Hollywood in 2005.  Probably would go over even worse today.  The tumblrinas and twitterverse would have a field day.
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#25
Would they, though?
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#26
some probably would (there's always someone out there)

but I think the movie could also see more appreciation for what it does

only one way to find out! does the film have any anniversary coming up or anything?
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History of Violence is definitely one of my favorite movies of the new century, easily.  Also adored the poster image.

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So good.
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny: 
Glad that you guys worked that out amongst yourselves.

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#28
Sex scene on the stairs, the problematic moment that sailed a thousand hot takes.
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#29
I hate myself for asking this, but problematic how again? Keeping in mind its a movie that, despite my love for it, haven;y seen in at least a decade.
If you're happy, you're not paying attention.

Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny: 
Glad that you guys worked that out amongst yourselves.

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#30
It's not really. Maybe something something about the bruises on her back afterwards. Doesn't matter, the hot takes find a way.
"I'd rather have hope...than nothing at all."
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"But the public, knowing what it wanted, spinning happily, let the comic books survive."
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#31
Ah. That... makes no sense. But yeah.
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny: 
Glad that you guys worked that out amongst yourselves.

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#32
Pass me that flask, Neil. I'll find a way.
"I'd rather have hope...than nothing at all."
-Illyana Rasputin, X-Men: Omega #1

"But the public, knowing what it wanted, spinning happily, let the comic books survive."
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#33
I'm sure today's hot takes about that scene would revolve around portraying it beginning as an assault of sorts, and it would be "problematic" that she gives in and enjoys it. Rubbish, but I'm pretty confident that's what the spin would be.

One can only imagine what would happen if STRAW DOGS were released today!
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(09-06-2018, 01:56 PM)Belloq87 Wrote: I'm sure today's hot takes about that scene would revolve around portraying it beginning as an assault of sorts, and it would be "problematic" that she gives in and enjoys it.  Rubbish, but I'm pretty confident that's what the spin would be.  

One can only imagine what would happen if STRAW DOGS were released today!

Yeah I saw this in theaters.

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It was not good.
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#35
oh right! the scene on the stairs!

yeah, that would result in lots of takes!
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