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2019-2020 NBA Season
Daryl Dawkins on Don Nelson:

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Don Nelson is great. Real Sports on HBO ran a piece on him. He lives in Hawaii, grows weed, and gets high with Willie Nelson.
AIt's just tits and dragons. - Ian McShane on Game of Thones
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Watching the League as a kid, you didn't realize it, because you were living amidst the evolution, but it was still very much the Wild Wild West days.

Doug Moe, the coach of the Nuggets, once got so enraged at his team's lack of defensive effort, he demanded his players let the other team score on every possession! I guess the idea was humiliation, but back then it was just a wacky filler story on Sportscenter.

"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





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Don Nelson is probably my favorite sports figure of all time. Not only did he take some very mediocre teams and make them among the most entertaining in the league, but every story about him seems to be a winner.

From Tim Hardaway: “My first year there, I think it was my first game … Nellie had a six-pack on him,” Hardaway said. “He had put two beers in his (right) jacket pocket, put two in that (left) jacket pocket, he had put one in his suit’s top jacket pocket, and he had one in his hand, drinking. So he always carried a six-pack with him after the game."
Gamertag: Tweakee
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Doug Moe was a legendary character. Here's a fun vintage SI story:


https://vault.si.com/vault/1988/11/07/nb...game-films


"Most NBA coaches would probably have to have a personality transplant before they could accept giving up the number of points that Moe's teams routinely do. There have been times when the Nuggets appeared willing to give a basket in order to get one, as they did in a 1983 game with Detroit in which they scored 184 points, only to be beaten by the Pistons, who went for 186. "Most of my career, we've been first in offense and last in defense," Moe says. "But what people don't realize is that total scores have nothing to do with defense or offense, just the pace of the game. It's the dumbest statistic ever, totally wacko, and yet everyone uses the total scores as an indication of the kind of defense you play. I may not be the smartest guy in the world, but as long as people go by that stat, I know there's someone out there dumber than I am."

Whether or not the Nuggets play a traditional scratch-and-sniff defense—and they finished second in the league at forcing turnovers last season, so there is solid evidence that they do play effective D—Moe seems to care passionately about it. "Eighty percent of the times Doug is having tantrums on the bench, it's about defense," Bristow says. Actually there's almost no time when Moe is not having tantrums on the bench, for it is during games that his carefree character suddenly vanishes and its nasty twin emerges. Moe used to be among the NBA's leaders in getting technical fouls, but nowadays his tirades are usually directed at his own players and not at the officials, although in 1983 he did feel compelled to throw a cup of water at a referee whose imagination Moe evidently thought had become overheated.

Then there was the time, during a preseason game last year, that Moe became so upset with the officiating that he put on a pair of sunglasses and began walking up and down the sideline like a blind man. But for the most part his behavior in 1987-88 was so decorous that he went through the season with only one T, an accomplishment he attributes to better communication with the referees. "Before the game I talk to them and try to explain that if I tell them to go——themselves, they shouldn't take it personally," he says. "A person with a vocabulary as rich as mine should get a warning on the first——."

None of Moe's players has ever stirred him to probe more deeply into the depths of his vocabulary than Kiki Vandeweghe did. A prolific scorer whose timid disposition made him a soft touch on defense, Vandeweghe played for Moe for four seasons before the Nuggets traded him to Portland in 1984, probably to prevent Moe, who was then on medication for his dangerously high blood pressure, from having a stroke. Vandeweghe was getting beaten so badly one night in a game against the Seattle SuperSonics that when Moe finally cornered him at halftime, the veins that were standing out in Moe's neck looked as if they were about to rupture. "Just go out there and hit somebody!" Moe implored. "Go out there and put your body on somebody."

The first time Seattle got the ball in the second half, Lonnie Shelton, a muscular 250-pound forward, tried to drive the lane and Vandeweghe decked him. The Nuggets' bench stood and cheered wildly. When Vandeweghe also leveled the next Sonics player who crossed his path, the officials were so aghast they didn't even call a foul. "What's Doug done to Kiki'?" asked referee Jake O'Donnell of Nuggets trainer Chopper Travaglini. "Whatever it is, the poor guy has taken so much abuse, there's no way I'm going to call a foul on him now. Tell Kiki he can do whatever he wants.""

"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





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Nice video examination of my guy, Moses.

The most physically dominant big man I ever witnessed. Watching him offensive rebound in his prime was beautiful.





"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





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Russel Westbrook has COVID.

The NBA's the only league with any realistic chance of finishing a season this year, and that's only because it's almost over.

Still... it's almost a sure thing that the championship will be determined by who avoids the virus.
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It's corporate shenanigans that this is even being attempted.

The side effects of the virus are the kind of thing that could damage careers.

All this for a bullshit asterisk championship.

Plus, I was arguing this with Z on FB, and he disagrees, but the fans don't deserve sports diversion. Fuck 'em. There's a riot going on, and the soul of the nation is at stake.

I believe the players should boycott all leagues until at least some concession is made towards police accountability.

Hey, let's get that achieved, then the 'fans' can go back to what 'fandom' has become - pretty much studying the salary cap and celebrating/ complaining about how much Black athletes are underpaid/ overpaid and how it affects their favorite team.

"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





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It would be great to have some sports back... but it's irresponsible to try it in the middle of a pandemic.

I keep thinking back to the 1919 Stanley Cup, which was canceled when half the players and caoches fell ill, and a star player died.

That's a very real possibility here. And even if their youth, health and wealth help them survive, an even greater possibility is that careers end due to the known long-lasting effects of the disease.
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I just finished watching Lakers-Clippers.  The setting was a little odd.  There are like giant screens with images of fans behind the benches.

All the stadium staff wearing masks.  The most distracting thing is the unpaintedness of the court.

There's some logos and some text but the paint isn't painted is the main thing.  TNT was showing the shot clock projected on the court above the top of the key.

Most importantly, the Lakers fought back to win with a flurry of 3's in the 4th quarter and Lebron James closing it out on both ends.  They won by 2 points.  He made the winning shot on a follow of his own miss and defended the final Clippers attempts from both Kawhi and PG-13.

It's also odd that the players are not all the same as pre-quarantine.  Some aren't there, and in some cases other guys are there, like Joakim Noah and Dion Waiters.  I believe that Lou Williams and my guy Montrezl will be back with the Clippers soon. 

Also, the court level camera angle feels a lot like a video game, especially with the digital crowd behind it.

I didn't see a lot of players with specific phrases instead of names on their jerseys, but there are some.
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I watched a few more games over the weekend, but not all of them.  The games have been pretty interesting.

Clippers rolled the Pelicans.  Raptors, namely Kyle Lowry, tore up the Lakers.  Houston stopped the Bucks.  

The Celtics-Blazers game was pretty amazing.  Dame and Jayson Tatum are the 2 clutch players I fear most right now.
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I've watched 3 of the games so far and have enjoyed them. I really enjoyed Celtics-Blazers as well.

For what it's worth, the NBA clearly has had the most sense in terms of playing the games so far. I'm going to keep watching, yet I can't help but worry about their health in the back of my mind.
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I've never been to any strip clubs in Atlanta, are they that special?
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(08-04-2020, 12:08 AM)Rylander Wrote: I've never been to any strip clubs in Atlanta, are they that special?

A sports reporter for The Athletic went to Magic City after this happened and did a full report on the chicken wings. It made me want to go!
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I gotta say, as much as ATL sucks, we always did have the best strip clubs. Magic City is the bomb.

I haven't watched a game yet. Hoping everything goes ok, and the players stay safe.

My guy Lou was stupid for that, but i don't think it was crazy as some players leaving the bubble to attend a wedding over baseball players hitting a fucking casino.

I don't know if I made this joke here or with Z on facebook, but a gotdamn pandemic hitting America this year of all years is the ultimate Clippers curse.

"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





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Think even Manute felt it.
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The bubble games have been interesting to say the least.  Mostly I'm watching Lakers and Clippers games.  Lakers won a close one tonight over Denver.  Kuzma made a last second 3 pointer.

Both teams have had up and down games.  Toronto is pretty scary, as is TJ Warren for the Pacers.  The Bucks bench is actually frightening in respect to having 3 point snipers with size.  I'm glad the Lakers added more shooters, even though losing Avery Bradley is rough.

As for the Clippers, I'm just glad that Harrell is back in Orlando.

Also, even though I love Lillard's clutch play, I don't want the Lakers to be matched up with them for the first round of the playoffs. 

He absolutely rolled them back in January 



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I am hoping for that Lakers/Blazers matchup. Portland has been fun to watch. Lillard is on fire. Nurkic looks to be 100%. Even Carmelo has been giving them way more production than I'd have predicted. Gary Trent Jr. has come out of nowhere to give them a quality 6th man. 

Want to see the Grizzlies continue to slide. They were a nice story pre-bubble but they're done.
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Lillard is just willing this team to win.
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The dagger Lillard dropped to squash the OKC franchise last year was beyond epic, I'm not sure if he can ever top that moment.

But holy damn those long 3 pointers are stomach wounds to the opponents all the way, with whatever kind of weapon.

They're extra painful because of the degree of difficulty and clutch exceptionalism of the shooter.  Sniper land.  And Mamba mentality/concentration/repetition.  They're totally making the playoffs, esp with Jurkic back now.  Look out.
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OK so. the Blazers just squeaked out a win against the Nets, in spite of the heroic efforts of Caris Levert.

Dame had around 41-42 points, Levert had 36-37.

For the playoff teams not ranked 1, 8 or 9 in the West, the matchups are already set.

East

1 Milwaukee Bucks vs. 8 Orlando Magic
2 Toronto Raptors vs. 7 Brooklyn Nets
3 Boston Celtics vs. 6 Philadelphia 76ers
5 Indiana Pacers vs. 4 Miami Heat

West

1 Los Angeles Lakers vs. 8/9 Portland/Memphis
2 LA Clippers vs. 7 Dallas Mavericks
3 Denver Nuggets vs. 6 Utah Jazz
5 Houston Rockets vs. 4 OKC Thunder

THe 8/9 game(s) must be this weekend.  Apparently if the 9 seed wins, they have to win again the next day in order to advance.
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Damn. That’s some good series coming up
AIt's just tits and dragons. - Ian McShane on Game of Thones
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WOW. 

Lakers - Blazers game 1 has been pretty good.  

Dame just hit his second 30+ footer to go up by 3 with 3 minutes left.
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Uh oh, panic at The Lake Show!
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But now there's 14 seconds left and they're down by 7.  Game over.

I was impressed with C.J. McCollum this game I hadn't really noticed his game before last week.

Milwaukee also lost today to Orlando.

Clippers win in game 1 was controversial.
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Trent Jr. didn’t do much for a long time but that three he hit with about a minute left was the kill shot.
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I assume that in the locker room, every player was trying desperately to avoid James' gaze, hiding behind plants or inside lockers, lest they be picked for today's edition of, "The Blame Game"!
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I don't think any one player is at fault for this loss at all.  Lakers need to make some adjustments and they are short handed, and shot poorly tonight.  They need more from everyone, starters, bench, etc.

I don't expect Rondo to play, even though he's back with the team as of today.  It's interesting that the other bench guys got such little run tonight.  I saw Waiters for a couple minutes but not JR Smith and Morris' time wasn't very much.  Probably because of defense.

Alex Caruso had some decent plays and defends better than those other guards but he missed from outside also.  Kuzma needs to score more when LeBron is on the bench.  He's playing well but needs to be more aggressive.

anyway, glad it's an interesting series!  still utterly terrified by Dame's range.
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8/19 Wednesday results:
  • Raptors win, go up 2-0 on Nets
  • Jazz win over Nuggets, tied at 1-1
  • Celtics win, go up 2-0 on 76ers
  • Clippers lose to Mavs, tied at 1-1

If I were a Gamblin' Man I might bet large on Toronto.  They have exceptional length on defense.

It will be interesting to see if/when/how the Lakers and Bucks can try to bounce back tomorrow.  

I hope they both succeed.  Same for the Clippers.
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Boban had me rolling here, especially when he was asked if he'd have whooped Keanu in real life.

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I'm so bored of the NBA. Every team plays almost exactly the same way. Good players, but shot selection is abysmal. No showmen in the game except maybe Dame.

If you're the Lakers, and you have this dream version of Ralph Sampson - with insane mobility- how do you not post him up and let him create baskets? He should get like 40-50 shots a game. He should be dancing down low.

That Dallas PG Luka or whatever is good- but he has no flavor. It's like watching a gut tear it up at the Y.

The league has stripped any street element out of the game. It's vanilla as fuck.

I enjoyed the hell out of the Blazers in Gm 1. Still, it would be nice if they put Melo in the post some. He's not an ideal 3 bombing wing.

Thank God for Sweet Lou, or the Clips would be a total snooze.

One thing: I hope in the future the NBA considers sticking with the bubble idea. Obviously without all the restrictions. Make it more like a NCAA tournament atmosphere. The lack of travel could make for less physical breakdowns and exhaustion.

Plus, it's cool you can do back to backs.

"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





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WARRIORS WITH THE #2 PICK!!!!! Bring on James Wiseman!

HAHAHAHA the Knicks took it in the shorts.
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Shocked the Bulls didn't land #7. I'll take #4. Just get me the best available player. Bulls are trash. Don't care if they play the same position as White, LaVine, or Markkanen. They need an influx of talent that doesn't get hurt
AIt's just tits and dragons. - Ian McShane on Game of Thones
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Jeez, I certainly wasn't expecting a 30 point blowout in game 2.
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I was super hyped for Jami Gertz's luck to bring the Hawks the Georgia kid. Alas, LOST BOYS was a long time ago.

"Got concrete rhymes, been rappin' for ten years and

Even when I'm braggin', I'm bein' sincere"



"Teenage angst has paid off well/ Now I'm bored and old"


"Drunk as hell, but no throwin' up

Half way home and my pager still blowin' up"


"I'm tired of living all alone
yeah, nobody ever calls me on the phone
But when things start getting bad
I just play my music louder"





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