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WEEKEND WRAP-UP: ‘JOKER’ JUST DOESN’T STOP
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Quote:. . . So it turns out that not everything Disney touches turns to gold . . .

Hmmm .... didn't you and I just do this dance a few months ago?  To wit:  

John Carter
Mars Needs Moms
Wrinkle in Time
The Nutcracker 
Lone Ranger
Mary Floppins
Solo
Dumbo
Tomorrowland
Dark Phoenix (it was Disney's problem at the time of release)

I don't know if you've been keeping up on current events ...

Reports vary, but it looks like WB sold something like 25-50% of Joker in order to offset production costs.  Maybe not even marketing costs, ONLY production costs.  They thought it would bomb.  What a horrendous decision that will turn out to be as Joker is a near-lock for one billion at this point (I think my personal prediction on Reddit was 350-375 million, and that was one of the higher numbers).  

Maleficent Prime was a bad movie.  No idea why it needed a sequel.  This had a "Huntsman 2: Hemsworth can't open a non-MCU film" smell all over it. 

Dark Fate looks like it may be a disaster.  Cameron is already distancing himself from the project, citing an "editing war" and competing visions.  There's a plot twist in the opening scene that I simply can't understand why they went with.  It's a 185 million dollar movie that they opened overseas FIRST and then allowed word of mouth to trickle to the states.  I know Genisys was "saved" by China, but opening a Terminator movie overseas kind of feels like a slap in the face to U.S. audiences.

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Oh man, I didn't know Cameron and Miller were at odds over the final cut. Even after Cameron got his franchise back, he still can't get it done his way!
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(10-31-2019, 06:28 PM)Overlord Wrote:
Quote:. . . So it turns out that not everything Disney touches turns to gold . . .

Hmmm .... didn't you and I just do this dance a few months ago?  To wit:  

John Carter
Mars Needs Moms
Wrinkle in Time
The Nutcracker 
Lone Ranger
Mary Floppins
Solo
Dumbo
Tomorrowland
Dark Phoenix (it was Disney's problem at the time of release)

I don't know if you've been keeping up on current events ...

Reports vary, but it looks like WB sold something like 25-50% of Joker in order to offset production costs.  Maybe not even marketing costs, ONLY production costs.  They thought it would bomb.  What a horrendous decision that will turn out to be as Joker is a near-lock for one billion at this point (I think my personal prediction on Reddit was 350-375 million, and that was one of the higher numbers).  

Maleficent Prime was a bad movie.  No idea why it needed a sequel.  This had a "Huntsman 2: Hemsworth can't open a non-MCU film" smell all over it. 

Dark Fate looks like it may be a disaster.  Cameron is already distancing himself from the project, citing an "editing war" and competing visions.  There's a plot twist in the opening scene that I simply can't understand why they went with.  It's a 185 million dollar movie that they opened overseas FIRST and then allowed word of mouth to trickle to the states.  I know Genisys was "saved" by China, but opening a Terminator movie overseas kind of feels like a slap in the face to U.S. audiences.

Yes, you’re right that Disney has some misses for sure though it’s few and far between. They’re damn consistent. Also, I may steal “Mary Floppins” for future columns if that’s okay.
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I give you permission to steal it.
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I hereby cede the term "Mary Floppins" to the public domain.

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John Carter and Tomorrowland are both really good.

And Lone Ranger is better than three of the five Pirates of the Caribbean movies..
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A movie's goodness doesn't necessarily make it profitable. Also, a movie's lack of financial success doesn't necessarily mean it's ungood.

All that being said, Lone Ranger is shitty.
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(11-03-2019, 07:48 PM)fraid uh noman Wrote: And Lone Ranger is better than three of the five Pirates of the Caribbean movies..

This is a low bar.

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(11-03-2019, 08:01 PM)bradito Wrote: A movie's goodness doesn't necessarily make it profitable. Also, a movie's lack of financial success doesn't necessarily mean it's ungood.

All that being said, Lone Ranger is shitty.

I know. I just threw that out there because I like them. 

I like Lone Ranger. But it's one of those that I have absolutely nothing to say when someone says it's bad or that they don't like it. Basically I agree with what Tarantino said about it. 

Tomorrowland and John Carter are films that even I would've probably thought spending that much money to make was foolish. But...I'm glad someone did lol. Tomorrowland especially. I love it..
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