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The Official Box Office Thread
#1
Might as well do it here!
#2
Oh yeah... http://www.chud.com/boxorifice.php3
#3
Why did Ladykillers and Jersey Girl get such low theater counts ?
#4
There'd have been no point going much wider.
#5
Star low, then expand. They're banking on good word of mouth.
#6
Scooby doo doing good is no surprise.... with the lack of a family movie right now.
#7
Just noticed Seth Green was dating Velma in this flick... He just has a thing for SMG's nerdy best friends, eh?
#8
jersey girl only 8 million?

you guys think miramax is ok with that?

i thought it'd do at least 15 opening weekend.
#9
Miramax has always been okay with it. Kev's movies have never been spectacularly huge at the Box office (his most successful movies were Dogma and J&SBSB.....both only made $30 million each).....but, Miramax could care less because Kev's films are traditionally always done on the cheap, and ALWAYS do super business when they hit video (where most of his fans discovered him anyways).....
#10
I'll bet Miramax is shocked and grateful that "Jersey Girl" opened as well as it did. Frankly, I'm surprised to see "Ladykillers" do so well. With word-of-mouth on "Ladykillers" being not that strong and "Dawn" dropping dead in its second week, all "Hellboy" has to worry about is The Rock's big stick.
#11
Walking Tall gets the jocks and Hellboy gets the geeks. I'm betting on geeks this week.
#12
Also, Rock and Johnny Knoxville get to promote their movie on every TV show, Ron and Selma get.....THE VIEW. I heard they didn't even get to talk about the movie, Star Jones was going on and on about her love of ham sandwiches.
#13
"I'm talkin' DOWNTOWN!"
#14
Remember when Back to the Future made 95 million dollars domestically and it was considered a runaway hit? Boy, the mid-80s were great. Seemed like everything that came out of Hollywood was a blockbuster. Now it seems like if a movie wasn't made for 2 thousand and then rake in 200 million it's a flop.

Also, it always seems to me that people forget that foreign markets are just as important to a studio as home country money. Maybe more.
#15
It's true that Kevin Smith movies get rennewed life on video, however Jersey Girl is apparently the most expensive Kevin Smith flick ever coming in around $35 million or so.

If Green Hornet doesn't generate some considerable dough for Miramax, I can't imagine him helming too many other big budget flicks.

That being said, it would seem to affect Ben Affleck and his recent "streak" more than anyone else.
#16
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Originally posted by MoNkaholic
Just noticed Seth Green was dating Velma in this flick... He just has a thing for SMG's nerdy best friends, eh?

Don't we all?
#17
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Originally posted by Populationrob
Remember when Back to the Future made 95 million dollars domestically and it was considered a runaway hit? Boy, the mid-80s were great. Seemed like everything that came out of Hollywood was a blockbuster. Now it seems like if a movie wasn't made for 2 thousand and then rake in 200 million it's a flop.

Also, it always seems to me that people forget that foreign markets are just as important to a studio as home country money. Maybe more.


they're less important, because the local distrib also gets his % from the gross there.

but of course overseas markets are important and often underappreciated by some. especially blockbusters do better overseas (most of them)
#18
Well, you would know. I mean, because you're a fucking huge geek. Elephant-sized, I imagine. Not talking about weight here. Spirit. Talking about spirit. You have an elephant spirit.
#19
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Originally posted by Buster Hymen
Man, if he starts to date Scarlett Johanson, I will OFFICIALLY hate every single fiber of the mans being. You fucking Prick, Affleck. You heard me...

Affleck you queerbait, stay away from her! *sharting*

Isn't Hellboy shipping more prints than Walking Tall? My theatre isn't getting the Rock's flick, but everything else next weekend (Hellboy, Prince & Me, Home On the Range) That typically means Walking Tall prints were harder to come by. Anyone have some numbers on this?

And will Eternal Sunshine get a wider release? With the word of mouth and repeat customers don't you think they'll want to increase their screen number? Unless they just plan to reship old prints in 3 or 4 weeks or wait for it's DVD business, which would suck.
#20
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Originally posted by Populationrob
Remember when Back to the Future made 95 million dollars domestically and it was considered a runaway hit? Boy, the mid-80s were great. Seemed like everything that came out of Hollywood was a blockbuster. Now it seems like if a movie wasn't made for 2 thousand and then rake in 200 million it's a flop.


Back to the Future made $210 million domestically upon release. Just so you know.
#21
JERSEY GIRL
i didn't know 35 million was considered a big budget these days.
8 million is average numbers for Kevin Smith. However with Jay and Silent Bob opening at 11 and with inflation it is SLIGHTLY low. But still NOT bad numbers especially since it is kind of a family oriented love story. NOT huge numbers type of material. I would guess that it will do between 25 and 30 domestically.

HELLBOY Vs. WALKING TALL
This is simple. Hellboy has a step up above Walking Tall. First compare how much each has spent advertising. When did you see regular Hellboy ads compared to regular Walking Tall ads. I am not talking on TV. If you watch Sci-Fi channel you will see Hellboy ads and if you watch something like the 24 you will probably see Walking Tall ads. Hellboy has had theatrical trailers for months - CONSTANTLY. I think I saw them start popping up in Oct or nov on a regular basis. Seldom saw a walking tall trailer.
2nd - The TYPE of movie gears Hellboy to being a huge hit and Walking tall being not such a huge hit. Look at last year - the biggest movie "similar" to walking tall would be Bad Boys 2 at 138 and next down is 2 fast 2 furious at 127. Both sequels with originals not too long ago and big names that are popular. Hellboy's audience are the same people who go see all the movies in the top 10. Look at the top 10 from each year. I would say HALF the top 10 each year are straight ahead sci-fi fantasy.
2001 to 2003 each had 5 of the top 10 were geek movies.
Plus Hellboy just looks cooler. Most men 18 to 35 when seeing an action sequence would rather see something they are incapable of doing - such as punching a car and making it flip. Psychologically people want to see what they can not normally see in real life - typical escapism - as long as it is entertaining and not boring as well as being well made - or what they perceive as being well made.
#22
FYI - I have not yet seen any Hellboy ads. However, I have seen the Walking Tall ad several times. I still get a kick out of seeing that lackey run teeth-first into a wooden pole. Classic!
#23
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However with Jay and Silent Bob opening at 11 and with inflation it is SLIGHTLY low.

Compared to Jersey Girl, Jay and Silent Bob opened in more than double the amount of theaters.
#24
Theatres I guess were a little scared because of Gigli.

But in regards to Hellboy - I have not seen busstop posters of Walking Tall but have of Hellboy - ALL over. Not only is there ads like that - but hellboy also has the advantage of being on a lot of movie magazines because of the effects and make-up
I haven't seen any covers for Walking Tall.

I feel like this is a silly thing - it is like arguing which would be bigger - Matrix 2 or Daddy Day Care.
If walking tall is bigger I would be extremly surprised - i'd say say that if it makes half what hellboy does it will be lucky.
#25
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Originally posted by g-dude
Back to the Future made $210 million domestically upon release. Just so you know.

Upon initial release? In 1985? Where are you getting this information?
#26
The problem with LXG was the story was not pulled off well. It had actual problems with the story and directing. Then there is the main character dying at the end - not a good thing for audiences.

Hellboy's people are the people who see movies OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER if it is good or cool.

Walking Tall WILL NOT do better - then again I didn't expect Passion to be huge and Hidalgo to be bigger.
Walking Tall is the kind of movie that fades quickly and Hellboy is the kind that sticks around. Then also the MAIN hinderance against Walking Tall is the lack of ads until recently. Hellboy has been advertising consistently heavy for like 6 months and Walking Tall is more like 3 or 4 weeks.
#27
back to the future grosses - total after each weekend...

Jul 5–7 $14,745,039 1
Jul 12–14 $32,580,763 2
Jul 19–21 $50,232,313 3
Jul 26–28 $66,639,288 4
Aug 2–4 $81,590,340 5
Aug 9–11 $95,626,695 6
Aug 16–18 $108,239,135 7
Aug 23–25 $119,905,425 8
Aug 30–Sep 2 $132,664,418 9
Sep 6–8 $139,392,468 10
Sep 13–15 $144,929,150 11
Sep 20–22 $150,110,865 12
Sep 27–29 $155,159,200 13
Oct 4–6 5 $159,526,773 14
Oct 11–13 $163,299,302 15
Oct 11–14 $163,607,921 15
Oct 18–20 $167,008,916 16
Oct 25–27 $169,936,837 17
Nov 1–3 $172,920,843 18
Nov 8–10 $175,741,903 19
Nov 15–17 $178,376,369 20
Nov 22–24 $180,524,247 21
Nov 29–Dec 1 $183,576,861 22
Dec 6–8 8 $184,904,944 23
Dec 13–15 $185,844,291 24
Dec 20–22 $186,980,485 25
Dec 27–29 $189,747,077 26

Jan 3–5 13 $192,957,781 27
Jan 10–12 $194,658,001 28
Jan 17–19 $196,303,776 29
Jan 24–26 $197,596,245 30
Jan 31–Feb 2 $198,442,630 31
Feb 7–9 $199,200,140 32
Feb 14–16 $199,846,910 33
Feb 14–17 $199,946,030 33
Feb 21–23 $200,599,180 34
Feb 28–Mar 2 $201,193,040 35
Mar 7–9 $201,807,130 36
Mar 14–16 $202,484,520 37
#28
The information I was going on said 195 million. My apologies to both g-dude and PeakFreak.

Also, I'm retarded.
#29
Pollock ?

Or director Sidney...?
#30
Said it before and I will say it again, you guys are setting yourself up for a huge letdown. Hellboy will NOT bomb, but it will "underwhelm" at the box office. Don't get me wrong, I WILL PAY TO SEE IT THIS WEEKEND. And it should be a good movie. But $41 million? There are 4 films going wide this weekend, not to mention the 4 films that came out last weekend. 8 essentially new films vying for the publics money. And anyone who doesn't think The Rock and "Walking Tall" is at the very least formidable competition for "Hellboy" is sticking they're head in the sand. I look for Hellboy to open with a very respectable $19 million dollars.
#31
How many screens is it going out on ?

Screen averages are the only reliable way to try and guage box office and the one thing that a cinema chain looks at when holding over across the next week's programme.
#32
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Originally posted by PeakFreak
The problem with LXG was the story was not pulled off well. It had actual problems with the story and directing. Then there is the main character dying at the end - not a good thing for audiences.

I sincerely doubt that the large mass of people that hated that film, hated it because Connery died. Fuck, he's basically alive again at the end, anyway. It's just a horrid, rancid piece of shit.
#33
it's certainly not THE ONLY thing that cinema owners look at. that'd be pretty dumb
#34
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Originally posted by Straxboy - An Anthony Hickox Film
How many screens is it going out on ?



Hellboy? 2,700 - 2,900 screens. Walking Tall is set for 2,700 screens.

Hellboy should win the weekend with between $25-35 million.

BTW, keep an eye on Sunday's numbers for The Passion. It's Palm Sunday and officially kicks off Easter Week, which could provide a box office boost for the film. I'm betting it does very well on Easter weekend (4/9 - 4/11) especially considering it will be in its 7th week of release.
#35
Of course it's what cinema owners keep a tab on. How many dollars is the most they can make, per screen, they operate ? And which film will generate that biggest figure, consistently. It's what the enitre exhibition industry bases it's hold overs on first thing Monday morning. I used to dealwith it for two years. Dull, but true. Anything over $6000 per screen and they'll be pretty happy.

$25 000 000 at 2 900 screens would be $8000 give or take. That's certainly what they'd hope and more than likely get.


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