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Avian
#1
I have apologized for what was a tasteless, but relatively harmless, joke. I deleted that post. I deleted that thread.

Avian has responded by continuing to harass me through his signature. His latest, claiming that I forced someone to have an abortion, is particularly painful given the fact I've had close friends and family that have gone through that experience.

This latest move of his, to me, crosses a line. 

I really do think something should be done regarding his continued participation on these forums, which is why I'm bringing it into its own thread rather than a "I'm done" or "AWOL chewer" thread. I really appreciated people blocking him - even those I've been combative with. That meant a lot to me.

But I don't know what to do, because it feels like ignoring him only makes it worse.

This will be my only post in this thread.
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#2
Honestly, I think ignoring him is probably your best option here, unless you can get Nick to step in (and that's something you should probably attempt to contact him directly about.) He's only doing this because he knows it winds you up. Public call-out posts just feed into that.
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#3
FWIW, I've put avian on ignore.
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#4
Doing what he's doing is indicative of a sociopathic mindset and a level of cruelty that I have no interest in engaging with or acknowledging further. Blocking doesn't seem enough because this is totally harassment....but that's the only option at the moment. I'm sorry you have to come in here knowing that that's there and nothing is being done about it..
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#5
I just saw the sig. That is beyond fucked up and uncalled for. I'm sorry he's harassing you. FWIW I also blocked him.
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#6
What the hell has been going on over here?

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#7
*looks up Avian's signature*

Wow. Fuck that guy.

*puts Avian on ignore, moves on*
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#8
*also looks it up*

Now my  blood's all angered up.

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#9
Well, fuck that dude. Absolutely vile behavior.

And this is the kind of thing that does argue for there to be a moderator who can step in and do more than just say "Hey, knock it off". The self-moderation shown by everyone putting avian on ignore is probably the right thing to do, but jeez.
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#10
(12-13-2018, 12:49 PM)jacob singer Wrote: What the hell has been going on over here?

I believe what happened was that Avian got upset that some people had taken to riding him about how he reacted with consistent negativity to casting and characterization decisions that promoted diversity in blockbuster filmmaking.  This was somewhat understandable, as there was a lot of passive-aggression to it, of people not quite calling him a racist misogynist, but definitely calling him a racist misogynist (which people have subsequently copped to and apologized for).  This compounded with his long-standing frustration that his blog-length "eviscerations" of popular blockbusters were not being met with the universal praise he felt they deserved to embitter him completely on this place.  So he resolved to leave.

But like so many of us, he didn't know how to quit the place, so he started by making a "I'm Leaving" thread, and when that didn't produce the flood of pleas to stay that he hoped, he decided that the only adult thing to do would be to go full supervillain.  Now he apparently thinks he's proving some sort of point by posting specious but really specific accusations about individual posters that he feels wronged him.  

At least that's how it has looked from where I was sitting.
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#11
Thank you for the summation. I'm going to go post in the Gift Exchange thread, which, coincidentally, concerns a lovely Christmas gift from Boone. That seems fitting.

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#12
Well I heard Avian is the guy responsible for convincing Lucas to do the Special Editions of the OT in the first place.
He also singlehandedly conceived of the monkey swinging scene in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
He encourages everyone he knows to subscribe to Pewdiepie.
He gave Mark Zuckerberg the idea for Facebook.
He created the term ‘social media influencer.’
He got Michael Bay hired for Transformers.
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#13
He writes checks for his groceries.
He doesn't know how to merge.
He always leaves a tiny amount of milk in the carton and puts it back in the fridge.
He always asks, "Is there gluten in this?" at dinner parties.

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#14
Who the hell has sigs enabled anyway?

What is this, 2014?
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#15
I do.
"Nooj's true feelings on any given subject are unknown and unknowable. He is the butterfly flapping its wings in Peking. He is chaos and destruction and you shall never see his true form." - Merriweather

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#16
Psst. So does Bucho.

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#17
I got so annoyed with the amount of space sigs took up so long ago, I forgot they existed
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#18
(12-13-2018, 02:29 PM)jacob singer Wrote: Psst. So does Bucho.

I am dumb! Tongue
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#19
(12-13-2018, 01:27 PM)schwartz Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 12:49 PM)jacob singer Wrote: What the hell has been going on over here?

I believe what happened was that Avian got upset that some people had taken to riding him about how he reacted with consistent negativity to casting and characterization decisions that promoted diversity in blockbuster filmmaking.  This was somewhat understandable, as there was a lot of passive-aggression to it, of people not quite calling him a racist misogynist, but definitely calling him a racist misogynist (which people have subsequently copped to and apologized for).  This compounded with his long-standing frustration that his blog-length "eviscerations" of popular blockbusters were not being met with the universal praise he felt they deserved to embitter him completely on this place.  So he resolved to leave.

But like so many of us, he didn't know how to quit the place, so he started by making a "I'm Leaving" thread, and when that didn't produce the flood of pleas to stay that he hoped, he decided that the only adult thing to do would be to go full supervillain.  Now he apparently thinks he's proving some sort of point by posting specious but really specific accusations about individual posters that he feels wronged him.  

At least that's how it has looked from where I was sitting.

Ohhhh right, he was Posts-Are-Way-Too-Long-So-I-Skipped-Them-Entirely Guy.
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#20
(12-13-2018, 02:54 PM)Mangy Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 01:27 PM)schwartz Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 12:49 PM)jacob singer Wrote: What the hell has been going on over here?

I believe what happened was that Avian got upset that some people had taken to riding him about how he reacted with consistent negativity to casting and characterization decisions that promoted diversity in blockbuster filmmaking.  This was somewhat understandable, as there was a lot of passive-aggression to it, of people not quite calling him a racist misogynist, but definitely calling him a racist misogynist (which people have subsequently copped to and apologized for).  This compounded with his long-standing frustration that his blog-length "eviscerations" of popular blockbusters were not being met with the universal praise he felt they deserved to embitter him completely on this place.  So he resolved to leave.

But like so many of us, he didn't know how to quit the place, so he started by making a "I'm Leaving" thread, and when that didn't produce the flood of pleas to stay that he hoped, he decided that the only adult thing to do would be to go full supervillain.  Now he apparently thinks he's proving some sort of point by posting specious but really specific accusations about individual posters that he feels wronged him.  

At least that's how it has looked from where I was sitting.

Ohhhh right, he was Posts-Are-Way-Too-Long-So-I-Skipped-Them-Entirely Guy.

So this is your fault, really.
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#21
I mean, I liked avian's blockbuster teardowns.

Just, you know, not enough to excuse this shitty behavior of his.
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#22
(12-13-2018, 02:49 PM)MichaelM Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 02:29 PM)jacob singer Wrote: Psst. So does Bucho.

I am dumb! Tongue

Ha, to be fair I shut that feature down an age ago so I forgot I even had a sig myself.

These days, like Nooj, I appreciate the less visually cacophanous aesthetic of sig-free message boards. Avatars and whatever fun tag a mofo has under their username are plenty for me.
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#23
I was...okay (if mildly concerned) with Avian until his recent behavior. I have him on block as well.
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#24
.....didn't he like, make a thread saying that he was leaving the forums?
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#25
This is exactly what he wants. Exactly.

Put him on ignore, like every other sensible chewer has, and never think about him again. Life is too fucking short.
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#26
if this is really exactly what he wants...

congrats, I guess!
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#27
I remember him as the super long posts guy, and then people would react to his unremarkable not terribly entertaining posts like they were Gods gift.

You fucking enablers.
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#28
(I always scrolled past his block o text. I ain't got time for that.)
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#29
Since he's back, and posting, I'm bumping this thread to bring to whoever still runs this fucking place's attention that Avian has changed his signature, except now it's about me, and animal abuse.

Do something already.
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#30
Seconded.

I have him on ignore, which is all I'm able to do.
"Nooj's true feelings on any given subject are unknown and unknowable. He is the butterfly flapping its wings in Peking. He is chaos and destruction and you shall never see his true form." - Merriweather

My Steam ID: yizashigreyspear
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#31
(04-04-2019, 09:27 AM)boone daniels Wrote: Since he's back, and posting, I'm bumping this thread to bring to whoever still runs this fucking place's attention that Avian has changed his signature, except now it's about me, and animal abuse.

Do something already.

I tried sending him a PM a while back asking he change it, and I got a snide reply. All class, that one.
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#32
I PM'd him a while ago as well. No response.
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#33
Fuck, he's still doing this? This is not OK and the kind of shit that makes it easier and easier for me to not check in here as often as I used to.

Updating it means he's doubled down, which means he knows what he did isn't ok but has decided to keep going. What a positively Trumpian response.
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#34
Vile garbage behavior. If there is anyone in charge of the site, this shit should not be allowed.
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#35
His teardowns were sometimes entertaining but more often than not gave me the impression he was a miserable git who couldn't watch a film without feeling like he needed to put it down a peg or two, so after awhile I just started skipping them, especially as they seemed to get unnecessarily longer. I didn't need them to be the length of epic poems.

Fuck this guy. *puts on ignore*
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