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Leigh Janiak's FEAR STREET Trilogy (2021)
I don't think we need another continuation of this story.

These books where nowhere near as formative as GOOSEBUMPS, but I definitely at some point read a trilogy about a haunted house, across 3 different eras. 99 FEAR STREET? I distinctly remember a film crew showing up and shooting a movie at the house and the director or something getting his face melted off by a giant lamp / lighting rig. Pretty much the only FEAR STREET content I remember from the books. Do those next, Netflix.
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Yes, I would much rather see the FEAR STREET title and "trilogy across time" gimmick applied to a totally new story than a continuation of the evil book plot.
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(07-17-2021, 12:15 PM)Belloq87 Wrote:
(07-17-2021, 07:46 AM)Richard Dickson Wrote: If they were to do another trilogy, I'd like to see:

- A B/W 1930s Universal Monsters-style installment, with like a mad scientist as the killer and maybe playing up on how differently the two sides of town handled the Depression.

- A '50s/'60s teen horror drive-in movie take, which would let them deal with race relations in the town.

- A mid-80's "slasher as anti-hero" film ala Elm Street.

I think they have to move into the future beyond 1994 if they do any more. Because otherwise, we already know who the bad guy is.

Post-'94, it could be anybody.

(07-17-2021, 11:25 AM)waaaaaaaalt Wrote: Which is exactly where I figured it would go but......nope.

It seems like it's more supported by what the movies showed us than the ultimate reveal is.

We see Nick -- both as teen and adult -- alone (so there's nobody he's putting on a show for) behaving in ways that don't make much sense if he's the ultimate evil guy.

Right and they try to go back and show us instances where he says things that are obvious clues as to what is going on now that we know the truth however there is so much else that doesn't sync up. I have never seen a plot before where the twist is both obviously planned and yet also seems like they swapped it in last minute.
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Now I want a Partridge Family-style spinoff where they tour the country, playing groovy tunes in between murdering teens.
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(07-17-2021, 01:24 PM)waaaaaaaalt Wrote: I have never seen a plot before where the twist is both obviously planned and yet also seems like they swapped it in last minute.

That's a great way of putting it.

(07-17-2021, 01:26 PM)hp pufncraft Wrote: [Image: 9cef6b4c9fa1076a9b83a675f6cef364]

Now I want a Partridge Family-style spinoff where they tour the country, playing groovy tunes in between murdering teens.

Definitely a fun assortment of killers.
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(07-17-2021, 11:39 AM)Richard Dickson Wrote:
(07-17-2021, 09:13 AM)simbob Wrote: .I also don't get the casting of people we've seen in the previous episodes in 1666. Like it makes sense with the lead since she's actually having a vision of the past through the eyes of the girl that is murdered as a witch. But the others, why are they there? Like maybe you could say they're there because she's putting people she knows in the place of others she has a similar relationship with in reality. But then there's people from the '70s one there too so that doesn't work. It's just weird to give a contextual reason for one of them to be there while also giving no contextual reason for the others.

It's a long-standing trope to have ancestors played by the actors playing their descendants in these kinds of things.  Think BTTF.

Only that doesn't seem to be what they're doing. I mean, they're doing that with Goode. But the Fier family seems to be completely killed off in 1666. Also the girlfriend's stepmom in '94 is also the mom in 1666...which would be funny if they were related, but I don't think that's what the movie is doing.

It seems they're doing everything at once which just muddles things. Like the lead is there because of a time travel vision thing and the actual Fier looks completely different...which kind of puts in question what everyone in the past actually looks like. They also seem to be doing a Wizard of Oz type thing where people from one place she knows look like people in the other place. But also past Goode actually does look like that and is related to present day Goode. Combining all these things seems like something they'd do something with, but Deena never comments on her situation in 1666 like she's aware, she's just living it. Also it'd mean the main girl would be related to Fier, but if that's true the movie makes nothing of it; and that definitely seems like something she'd tell her brother that's really into the story of the town witch.
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Or, you know, it's just a storytelling trope in anthology-style film series where they decided it probably wasn't in the budget to hire a third entirely different cast.
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I don't mind that conceit. It just didn't fully work for me in this case.
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Fear Street’ Trilogy Doesn’t End Here: Leigh Janiak Hopes to Create Horror Spin on MCU

Quote:“One of the exciting things about ‘Fear Street’ is the fact that the universe is big and allows for a lot of space,” Janiak said in a recent interview with IndieWire. “One of the things that I talked about before I was hired was that we have a potential here to create a horror Marvel [Cinematic Universe], where you can have slasher killers from lots of different eras. You have the canon of our main mythology that’s built around the fact that the devil lives in Shadyside, so there’s also room for everything else.”

Of course, it depends on how audiences feel about the current trilogy, which has unfolded over the last three weeks on Netflix, with a new film dropping each Friday morning. If people dig it, Janiak said, the franchise could expand into all sorts of new projects.

“I think that my hope is that audiences like it enough that we can start building out [more], we can think about what another trilogy would be, what stand-alones would be, what TV would be,” she said. “I don’t even think about it like TV or movies exactly anymore. That’s the great thing about Netflix and about what ‘Fear Street’ is, which is kind of a hybrid new thing. I’m excited about the possibility of what else can happen.”

As for Janiak, she knows what story she really wants to see next: the kind of slasher even a devoted gorehound like herself has never seen before. “I really started getting excited about a ’50s slasher movie, which I haven’t really seen and what that means,” Janiak said. “It’s just cool to think about the different eras and what’s possible as a horror fan.”
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I'm definitely in on whatever Leigh wants to do next with this. It sounds pretty cool!
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(07-03-2021, 12:47 AM)Belloq87 Wrote: - It pushes the “Hey, remember ‘90s music?!” button a little too hard (especially early on).

I'm like 15 minutes into this and all I can think of is that red letter media star wars video, except this is the 90's song version. Cyprus Hill, Bush, Radiohead, I know what that is!!!!! I clapped, I clapped when I heard insane in the brain! Because Im a creep, Im a 90's weirdo.
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I enjoyed 1666. First off Deena was much more likable in this than she was in 1994. I attribute that to seeing her go all out to save her girlfriend , as opposed to getting her in car accidents.

   The flashback to 1666 was good. It wasn't a shock that Sarah Feir was a scapegoat to the real big bad, nor who the real big bad was, but it was still entertaining to watch. The best material was everything at the mall. Getting the undead monsters to fight each was fun. As a Community fan it was good to see Gillian Jacobs kick ass. 
  
  I'd watch more Fear Street.

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I really like the trilogy as a whole but the 1666 part was my least favorite. I was kinda bored by most of it and while I like the reveal, it left me with more questions about the whole story

I actually liked the use of the same actors in 1666, its a weird thing to get hung up on. Definitely not a deal breaker for me but most of the actors I liked really had not much to do in it.

The ending was somewhat flat, it really needed some more gruesome kills. I did like the sheriffs sweet pad, cool jukebox! Thats what I'm selling my soul to the devil for.
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(07-17-2021, 11:42 PM)totalpackage Wrote: I really like the trilogy as a whole but the 1666 part was my least favorite. I was kinda bored by most of it and while I like the reveal, it left me with more questions about the whole story

I actually liked the use of the same actors in 1666, its a weird thing to get hung up on. Definitely not a deal breaker for me but most of the actors I liked really had not much to do in it.

The ending was somewhat flat, it really needed some more gruesome kills. I did like the sheriffs sweet pad, cool jukebox! Thats what I'm selling my soul to the devil for.

Yup sold his soul to become....sheriff of a small town. I feel at some point even the devil stopped him and said "uhh before you sign in blood....ya sure? ok....".
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(07-18-2021, 01:25 AM)waaaaaaaalt Wrote: Yup sold his soul to become....sheriff of a small town. I feel at some point even the devil stopped him and said "uhh before you sign in blood....ya sure? ok....".

The whole Goode line appeared to have a rather narrow field of vision when it came to asking Satan for success.

Maybe, for some contrived reasons, the bargain only holds if they stay in town!
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Generations of evil white dudes selling their souls so they can reign over some shitty small town - I know its the 90s and not modern day, but it still just feels right that the most recent guy in the bloodline would end up top dog in local law enforcement.
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(07-18-2021, 08:21 AM)Belloq87 Wrote:
(07-18-2021, 01:25 AM)waaaaaaaalt Wrote: Yup sold his soul to become....sheriff of a small town. I feel at some point even the devil stopped him and said "uhh before you sign in blood....ya sure? ok....".

The whole Goode line appeared to have a rather narrow field of vision when it came to asking Satan for success.

Maybe, for some contrived reasons, the bargain only holds if they stay in town!

I mean I get the part about his entire family being wealthy and I guess that extended to with his nice house. I know his brother got to be mayor and the entire town got a piece as well......i think. Im just saying if it's my job to do the ritual im going for the mayor position or better yet the lay by the pool and do nothing all day position and let some third cousin be the crooked cop that cleans up the messes.

(07-18-2021, 10:40 AM)fuzzy dunlop Wrote: Generations of evil white dudes selling their souls so they can reign over some shitty small town - I know its the 90s and not modern day, but it still just feels right that the most recent guy in the bloodline would end up top dog in local law enforcement.

Oh yeah Fear Street is super subtle with it's messaging.
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(07-18-2021, 10:40 AM)waaaaaaaalt Wrote: Oh yeah Fear Street is super subtle with it's messaging.

Glad I could help de-code it for you!
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What happened if one of those Goode generations produced only daughters, anyway?

Or was the part of the deal? The Devil made sure they only had boys for 330 years?
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(07-18-2021, 02:49 PM)Belloq87 Wrote: What happened if one of those Goode generations produced only daughters, anyway?

Or was the part of the deal? The Devil made sure they only had boys for 330 years?

It actually would have been interesting if Nick Goode had a daughter their age that he had young, maybe not known publicly because it embarrassed the family and she was his eyes and ears in the school as well as being the only next in line to take up the mantle. But then I guess that lessens their theme.
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I'm checking out Fear Street 1978...this is such a massive improvement over 1994 in almost every single way. Basically, I assumed that '78 would be more of the same: a movie that's all about how rad 70s slasher flicks are. This is not that. And unlike '94, this actually has likable characters that I at least care wether they live or die (unlike psycho from "94 who tries to "prank her girlfriend to death" or wrestle with a cop to get his gun); the characters respond like reasonable people to a situation they barely understand.

So far, there's no deaths that are as mean as that one kill, but the deaths happen fast and quick that there's STEAAAAKS, especially since the movie isn't really afraid to kill off children.

So yeah...guess I'll watch the final film.
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I really enjoyed this trilogy as a whole.

Some of the stuff in 1666 reminded me of early Peter Jackson or what might have happened if Peter Jackson had made a modestly budgeted horror trilogy right after Lord of the Rings. The staging and camera movements during the village witch hunt at night especially evoked that kind of wonderful sense of action geography and kinetic vision that PJ was so good at.

I am also very down with Janiak's obvious love for The Pixies.

So, yeah, the storytelling isn't always elegant but some of that is by virtue of the ambition of what they tried to do with these 3 movies. That kind of reminded me of Peter Jackson, too, oddly enough.

I am actually itching to rewatch these, probably will around Halloween. While some flaws will probably get bigger, I also get the feeling that there is a surprising level of intricacy and inter-referencing going on in this little world that Janiak created that will be pretty rewarding to return to.
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(07-19-2021, 12:31 AM)wasp Wrote: Some of the stuff in 1666 reminded me of early Peter Jackson or what might have happened if Peter Jackson had made a modestly budgeted horror trilogy right after Lord of the Rings. The staging and camera movements during the village witch hunt at night especially evoked that kind of wonderful sense of action geography and kinetic vision that PJ was so good at.

I think 1666 is clearly the one in which Janiak gets to do the most interesting stuff in terms of direction.

You can sense she put real thought into making all three time periods feel different via her stylistic choices (not the period trappings and details, but the way she actually stages and covers the events in each era).
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(07-18-2021, 08:21 AM)Belloq87 Wrote:
(07-18-2021, 01:25 AM)waaaaaaaalt Wrote: Yup sold his soul to become....sheriff of a small town. I feel at some point even the devil stopped him and said "uhh before you sign in blood....ya sure? ok....".

The whole Goode line appeared to have a rather narrow field of vision when it came to asking Satan for success.  

Maybe, for some contrived reasons, the bargain only holds if they stay in town!

Yeah, this was really dumb. They don't even seem to be getting much out of it. They aren't asking for vast fortunes or lots of power or anything either. Hell, you're a founding family that's been in a moderate looking size town for over 300 years, you don't need to make deals with the devil to become mayor or get a job as sheriff. Goode doesn't even seem to like his job either. You'd think they'd of been making deals for oil and casinos for something, something that gave them real power over the area. You'd almost suspect that kind of town to look more like Colorado City than a totally normal town where the dark underbelly seems to extend to like two people. They also aren't all that controlling about the town. I mean, a mall? There's no way in hell that kind of town lets something like a mall set up shop. I get it's a message thing, but that doesn't make it any less dumb.

It is however funny that 1666 Goode is this devil worshiping rebel that thinks the whole town are a bunch of dipshit morons, and his rebellion takes on the form of making the town a better place and just fitting in.
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I was disappointed Sarah Fier ended up being falsely accused. Mostly because they set up her joining up with the Devil just about perfectly.

I get that they're doing Down With the Patriarchy, but siding with the Satanic witch was such a more exciting way to do that. As seen in The VVitch!
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(07-19-2021, 04:12 AM)arjen rudd Wrote: I get that they're doing Down With the Patriarchy

How did you figure that out?
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(07-19-2021, 03:11 AM)simbob Wrote: Goode doesn't even seem to like his job either.
(07-19-2021, 04:12 AM)arjen rudd Wrote: Mostly because they set up her joining up with the Devil just about perfectly.

These are both things that contribute to the feeling that the ultimate reveal was almost a last-minute decision made during production.

It wasn't, obviously, and I called the potential of it during 1994, but they do too good a job of trying to misdirect that they actually set-up the misdirect much better than the actual thing.
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(07-19-2021, 04:55 AM)waaaaaaaalt Wrote:
(07-19-2021, 04:12 AM)arjen rudd Wrote: I get that they're doing Down With the Patriarchy

How did you figure that out?

YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW YOU FUCKIN DOWN WITH THE PATRIARCHY!!!
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