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READY PLAYER ONE (2018) Post-Release Discussion
#1
I was typing this up in the pre-release thread, but decided to start the new thread now instead (about a week in advance of the movie coming out).

I can sum up my shrugging non-committal sense of distaste towards the movie with one image that actually turn my eyes away in mock horror:

(look away, because I suppose this can be considered a spoiler)


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imagine the Iron Giant heroically helping the heroes cross a moat of lava to get to the castle with its last breath

imagine the Giant falling into the lava

then imagine what the movie has the Giant do before it finally sinks slowly into it

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so I actually don't have a problem with the Iron Giant being used as a giant weaponized avatar in this movie, because it's not as if Bird's original film didn't indulge in how awesome the Giant's old-school sci-fi defense weaponry was with an extended sequence of inventive destruction before finally having him choose to not be a gun

but in terms of this movie being the kind of 'member-berry movie many of us gave forwakens shit for?

I think readyplayerone tops it by default with the spoiler I mentioned above.  But like forwakens, I don't think I would mind it so much if the movie was actually good... and I really didn't think it was.  I think it gets off to a promising start with a big world-establishing info dump... but at some point it feels like the movie never quite gets out of that gear... and by the end, it really is just watching a bunch of pixels beat each other up in the fake world without ever truly building up what it means for the real world.  So by the time we get to the hero making a big speech calling out everyone to fight for the Oasis, it never felt like it meant anything.

I think the movie makes a lot of smart (though obviously necessary) changes to the structure of the easter egg hunt by making them more cinematically fun than simply having the hero recite lines from an 80s movie.  And I think it does a pretty solid job of bringing the audience along for the riddle/puzzle solving element of the contest (which TOMB RAIDER failed to do).

I don't think the movie manages to get me to buy why Wade should be the hero of this story beyond the obvious fact that he's the lead.  Because at some point, the movie has the love interest basically tell him that he's the one that will save everyone... and I'm just thinking "why him?"   Why him for any of this?

And this movie (as well as the book) maintains the very Hollywood standard of beauty by having the love interest initially reject Wade because she knows he'll be disappointed when he sees what she's really like... and she's played by a beautiful young actor who reminds me of Rachel Leigh Cook in the 90s, except with an UNSLIGHTLY (not unsightly at all) birthmark over her left eye just because. 

And they're almost IMMEDIATELY so chibi with each other when they meet in real life halfway through the film. And even then, I'm wondering why would she like Wade that much at all? He's barely a character! She's barely a character, but at least she has rebellion shit to do! (and the movie tries pretty hard to give her more to do)

The movie generally does as good job of compressing the extended length of the contest in the novel (which is another choice that makes obvious sense to me), but in the process feels like it's missing a reel.  People just kinda suddenly show up like they mean something beyond their basic plot necessity.


MENDO IS FUN THOUGH!!  there's definitely a shot I'll be screencapping!

and I thought Rylance's more personal scenes as Halliday were good, though I didn't think the lessons to be learned from his life meant much to the rest of the movie

Mecha-Godzilla vs Gundam was pretty cool

The second challenge?  I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it.  It definitely has HEAVY 'memberberry thing going on... but it was just SO ODD because the movie leaned so HARD into it as opposed to just using this particular IP for a passing reference.  Looking forward to what everyone thinks about that part. I was really impressed with the simulation it achieved.

Spielberg's use of the wild CG camera is fun in that Tintin way without becoming obnoxiously aggressive in the way it can be when someone uses it in something like the more recent Ninja Turtles 2....

...but at a certain point, even that kind of mastery becomes numbing when it has to cut back and forth with stuff happening in the real world that I just wasn't invested in (which Tintin never had to worry about).

And for the nitpickers... the use of VR/AR?  Yeah, the movie is pretty quick to let go of caring too much about how much its use makes practical sense.  It didn't bug me though.   Just in-the-moment movie logic for the sake of entertainment.



If a hit of nostalgia and superficial structure of an 80s kids' adventure story is what you want out of this movie, I think you'll enjoy it very much!  Particularly you, Engineer!  ENJOY! I'm sure I'd have enjoyed it at the right age as it is... but not now.

But I think I was being fairly optimistic about this one as well... only to find it quite quite lackluster. Clearly, I'm being harder on this movie in a way that I wasn't with something like A WRINKLE IN TIME, which I saw in the context of a lot of negative word. But this is Spielberg we're talking about... with raves coming out of SXSW in a secret screening full of a pumped audience WITH Spielberg present.
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#2
If the Iron Giant does what I think it does based on your quote..

That's kind of the worst.

Also not surprise that the Art3mis reveal is just as awful in the movie as it is in the book. Oh hey, let's make a big deal about how one of the characters Wade plays with is actually a big black girl. But not Art3mis--so of course she's hawt. She's the trophy.
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#3
(03-22-2018, 02:16 AM)ska oreo Wrote: If the Iron Giant does what I think it does based on your quote..

That's kind of the worst.

   
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#4
Sounds exactly what I thought it would be. A distilled for general audiences version of a weak sci-fi/nerdporn novel.
Originally Posted by ImmortanNick 

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#5
hehehe, the actual movie's overall middling execution (to me anyway) provides such fodder for either side of the 'ready player online culture war' that my prediction is that if one's mind is already made up about how they'll feel about the movie, the movie itself won't change anyone's mind

if you go in optimistic, you'll like it

if not, you probably won't

and the online discourse will push each side to their respective extremes
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#6
This movie is a thinkpiece generator on steroids, man!
Originally Posted by ImmortanNick 

Saw Batman v Superman.
Now I know what it's like to see Nickelback in concert.

That's my review.
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#7
(03-22-2018, 03:09 AM)Nooj Wrote: hehehe, the actual movie's execution provides such fodder for either side of the 'ready player online culture war' that my prediction is that if one's mind is already made up about how they'll feel about the movie, the movie itself won't change anyone's mind

if you go in optimistic, you'll like it

if not, you probably won't

and the online discourse will push each side to their respective extremes

I can totally see how someone (like engineer) can look at RPO as an optimistic celebration of all things geekdom; but my issue, with the book at least, is that RPO felt less like it understood why people like those things other than because its popular. And it's something that I've had with geek fandom in general.

But it's good to hear that they at least found some way to make the actual challenges somewhat engaging.
"God moves in mysterious ways," they said. Maybe he is on your side, the way it all worked out. Remembering other Christmases, wishing for something, something important, something special. And this is it, baby boy Frankie Bono. You're alone now. All alone. The scream is dead. There's no pain. You're home again, back in the cold, black silence
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#8
(03-22-2018, 03:09 AM)Nooj Wrote: hehehe, the actual movie's execution provides such fodder for either side of the 'ready player online culture war' that my prediction is that if one's mind is already made up about how they'll feel about the movie, the movie itself won't change anyone's mind

if you go in optimistic, you'll like it

if not, you probably won't

and the online discourse will push each side to their respective extremes

Ooh, like Ghostbusters 2016? Sounds like a lot of fun!
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#9
oh god, this isn't ghostbusters 2016!

that shoddy movie!!! I went into it optimistic!!!!
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#10
Yeah, I think everyone agreed that Ghostbusters 2K16 was a weak film. It was a just a matter if you thought it was a weak film because it wasn't well thought out, or because IT HAS WIMMENZ
"God moves in mysterious ways," they said. Maybe he is on your side, the way it all worked out. Remembering other Christmases, wishing for something, something important, something special. And this is it, baby boy Frankie Bono. You're alone now. All alone. The scream is dead. There's no pain. You're home again, back in the cold, black silence
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#11
Well what if you thought all the Wimmenz weren't funny.

You'd be in quite the pickle.
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#12
(03-22-2018, 04:18 AM)carnotaur3 Wrote: Well what if you thought all the Wimmenz weren't funny.

You'd be in quite the pickle.

Yeah




sexist pig.
"God moves in mysterious ways," they said. Maybe he is on your side, the way it all worked out. Remembering other Christmases, wishing for something, something important, something special. And this is it, baby boy Frankie Bono. You're alone now. All alone. The scream is dead. There's no pain. You're home again, back in the cold, black silence
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#13
I was postulating!

But seriously. Those Wimmenz.
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#14
So my flame throwing hatred of this isn’t definitively justified? All the bewildered, you-don’t-have-to-see-it guys from Minnesota will be able to come away feeling what they wanted to feel about this, and still avoid me at parties “because Slim is fucking weird about RPO?”
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#15
The challenge for the 2nd key gave one of the twins nightmares last night.

(03-22-2018, 03:20 AM)ska oreo Wrote: I can totally see how someone (like engineer) can look at RPO as an optimistic celebration of all things geekdom; but my issue, with the book at least, is that RPO felt less like it understood why people like those things other than because its popular. And it's something that I've had with geek fandom in general.

See, I don't get this criticism. Do you want the movie to stop and explain WHY Buckaroo Bonzai is awesome, so we understand why Wade chooses his outfit? That seem to play right into the criticism instead of trusting the audience. There are a ton of references here, but very few that "matter" enough that they need to be explained. And, trying to explain fandom to anyone is folly. People love what they love.

When I saw Jason Voorhees take a katana to the heart, I didn't need to turn to my kids and explain to them why that scene made me smile. It wasn't for them. The movie basically says, "If you seem something you like, cool. But, you don't have to get everything." The few geek notes that are important, like the hidden dot in Adventure, they explain.
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#16
How was the soundtrack? Do you remember all of the songs which were used?
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#17
There's actually not as many songs in this as one would think.

There's an extended Saturday Night Fever reference though!

It starts with Jump for the intro.

Anything else, I think Anakin's Dad would be better able to remember.
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#18
Who's seeing the movie this weekend?
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#19
We are.
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#20
GHOSTBUSTERS 2016: Kate and Leslie are funny, anyway.

Hmmm... That's actually a better title than Answer The Call.


(03-28-2018, 02:35 PM)Nooj Wrote: Who's seeing the movie this weekend?

I'll be there.  And at ISLE OF DOGS, hopefully.
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#21
oh oh oh!

There another moment in the movie that made me raise my eyebrows and go "huh..." in the context of Spielberg's filmography.

It's a moment that feels like the Spielberg of the past would've milked its tension for all it was worth.  

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it's a moment in which Olivia Cooke sneaks into MENDO's office to use his VR rig to hack some key information out of... 

and of course, MENDO is on his way back to the office. 

And so I expected a tense sequence in which she would need to avoid being seen and sneak out.

Well, that DOES technically happen... but it happens in SUCH an arbitrary way that my friend and I just started laughing.  It's just a single shot of her sneaking around the seat, hiding behind the couch, and then sneaking out another door in plain sight.  

Spielberg does NOTHING with it.  No tension at all.  I almost wondered if the utter flatness of that moment was some kind of silly joke!

I suppose it shouldn't be too surprising.  Spielberg could do that kind of tension in his sleep, and the movie is already overstuffed with exposition and digital setpieces anyway.

But it was still so ODD.

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#22
I loved every stinking second of this.

I'll just get my coat.
Just this guy, you know?
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#23
Welcome to the rebellion, Dickson!
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#24
I knew it!

Safest bet!
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#25
(03-28-2018, 02:35 PM)Nooj Wrote: Who's seeing the movie this weekend?


Not I. I'll be watching JUSTICE LEAGUE.....


































.....the animated series instead!
Originally Posted by ImmortanNick 

Saw Batman v Superman.
Now I know what it's like to see Nickelback in concert.

That's my review.
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#26
I thought this was a blast. It's basically a kids movie - sort of a virtual reality WILLY WONKA - and a really good one at that. I never knew how much I needed Mark Rylance to play Garth Algar. The entire THE SHINING interlude is a hoot. It's a total cop-out that the protagonist love interests are attractive youngsters even in the real world...or it would be if this wasn't a full-throated Amblin movie. Any tut-tutting thinkpiece about this movie will look as ridiculous to me as if it was targeting THE GOONIES.

This sure as hell doesn't feel like it was made by a guy in his 70s.
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#27
Tired as hell so I'll type my full thoughts later but this was a blast. It had the energy and juice of Spielberg's earlier blockbuster films. Pretty amazing a 71 year old dude directed this.
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#28
This is definitely a movie to bring your kids to. The references may be catering to the 30 and up crowd, but I was exhausted by that stuff almost immediately, and was focusing on the story instead. This is Gen Z getting their own 80s Spielberg movie.
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#29
Aw shucks, guys, this was quite a lot of fun! THAT movie sequence SLAYED #B055man69
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#30
Did anyone see it in 3D? Wondering how the conversion was
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#31
(03-29-2018, 01:28 AM)Nooj Wrote: Did anyone see it in 3D?  Wondering how the conversion was

It's unremarkable. The action scenes certainly pop even more but by the halfway point I was forgetting I was seeing it in the format. Which is good and bad in a way but I certainly never got the impression that Spielberg tried to build his direction around it.
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#32
(03-28-2018, 09:47 PM)Richard Dickson Wrote: I loved every stinking second of this.

I'll just get my coat.

This is the most unsurprising reaction to something since The Artist won best picture.
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#33
Dial it back a bit, Boone.
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#34
(03-22-2018, 10:33 AM)Nooj Wrote: There's actually not as many songs in this as one would think.

There's an extended Saturday Night Fever reference though!

It starts with Jump for the intro.

Anything else, I think Anakin's Dad would be better able to remember.

New Order's "Blue Monday" plays when Parzival enters the club.

Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It" is in the final battle.

Hall & Oates' "You Make My Dreams Come True" plays over the end credits.

Tears for Fears "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" is in there too, just can't recall where.
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#35
Richard is well known as one of our top three Spielberg guys, and is well-respected for that (he and I agree, for example, that Bridge of Spies is really good). I was just teasing him, regardless of how I feel about Ready Player One (which I am going to see). It's not like I'm yelling at him for enjoying Olive Garden. C'mon.

That being said, I do apologize if it came off as harsh.
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