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Daredevil discussion
Here are my thoughts. Spoilers about, so beware.

I had a few problems with this movie:

"They say a man's life flashes before his eyes..." Yawn. Standard Excuse to Tell A Back Story #142.

Daredevil kills a guy in the subway? I don't know a whole lot about DD, but I was under the impression that he was one of the "thou shalt not kill" types. I wasn't so bothered by this when Keaton's Batman would, for instance, toss a guy down a bell tower in the midst of defending himself, but to sit there and watch a guy get cut in two, and do nothing about it... I'm glad I told my friend not to take his kid sister to see this.

Daredevil-Vision. I didn't buy that his radar sense was good enough to fight with. From the few comics I read, I got the impression that he was supposed to be able to "see" better than a sighted man. When I was watching the fight in the pool room, I just kept saying to myself, "this guy is gonna bite it." The part when he whacked the railing to get a bead on the bad guy was cool, but again, if he needs to do something like that, how useful is his radar? If he needs rain to really see people, how effective would he be in a fight? The scene where Elektra's face comes into view from the rain, though, was beautiful.

Spider-Man Brand Suction Cup Gloves ™. Daredevil is supposed to be a phenomenal athlete, but he was doing things that were straight out of Spider-Man. Less CGI and more wire work probably would have cured a lot of this. Daredevil has the same "this could be you, if you had horrible mental scars and a lot of spare time" appeal that Batman does, at least in the running-over-rooftops respect. That was lost here.

My Blind Guy Stick is Also My Billy Club. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Murdock's blindness is a much better disguise than Clark Kent's glasses, so it was very nice of him to provide this little nugget for everyone trying to see through it.

Kingpin. The Kingpin is supposed to be huge, quiet, and deadly. You are supposed to be afraid of him. I wasn't afraid of this Kingpin, mostly because he was on screen for all of ten minutes. They should have shown some underling making a stupid comment, and Kingpin crushing his head in his hand in response.

Gimme that crowbar, I think I can get one more plot line in here. Too, too much going on in this movie. Daredevil/Kingpin, Daredevil/Bullseye, Daredevil/Elektra all would have been good movies on their own, but there simply wasn't enough time to tell them all here.

Rushed origins. When young Matt got hit by that chemical stuff, I didn't care. When Jack Murdock was killed, I didn't care. When Elektra's father was killed, I didn't care. I didn't get the same "kindred spirit" feel between Murdock/Elektra that I did in the comics.

Actually, I think the biggest thing going against this movie was that I read "Ultimate Daredevil/Elektra" before I went to see it; that comic was one of the best I've read in some time, and the movie didn't live up to it.

Overall, though, I enjoyed the movie. It wasn't a life altering experience, but not a bad way to spend an hour and a half. I'd give it a C+.
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