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Daredevil discussion
I'm not saying I liked the way the changes to daredevil's character turned out, I'm just saying there is potential in the concepts Johnson tried to bring to the table.

Some have complained that turning DD into a vigilante was pointless and stupid. I just wanted to point out that there was a point to changing the character, and Johnson clearly had a story arc planned out.

I have to agree the elektra/daredevil contrast was much more interesting in the comics, that the essential differnece between elektra's role as asssasin and DD's role as a just hero was more interesting than what ultimately got put on screen

but continuity aside, i thought Johnson's intention to tell the story of a man who does not spring from adversity instantly as a fuly realized morally pure hero and the longer journey that character must take to true heroism was an interesting angle on the superhero archetype we haven't seen in the movies before.Superheroes seem to be born fully ature in the instanceof whatever tragedy drives them to their calling. I like the idea that one hero's journey is a little more flawed, more of a struggle

But I'll be the first to admit, such intentions were ruined by unforgivably clumsy execution in the case of this film

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